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On February 19 2015 10:36 Tere wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 10:27 The Shining wrote: Tere, lol. If you post again, after another somewhat long gap in time, I'm seriously going to have to wonder why you couldn't answer my one question. out of spoons, I will if you repost it, sorry if I'm lametown but i need to sleep, nn
Also...out of spoons.
I'll have to remember that.
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On February 19 2015 09:15 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 13:27 Silverarte wrote: Hmm, ok. So I'm going to start posting this stuff up as I get my thoughts in order (and hopefully without random copy/paste cut offs!)
Let's see. I'll post up thoughts on Tere first! (Then Tere, I'll give you my thoughts for everyone since I did see you asked for that as well as Trfel. Also, by the way? HILARIOUS gifs! Loved coming back to those.)
ALright, so back to the read on Tere here.
-Jump on the bandwagon with Hier. Later, seems relatively unaffected considering all the effort placed here. Note, I'm not going to stare sideways too much for that one with Hier. That was a lynch gone bad, or so it felt to me with the way Hier was reacting. -Scumread list definitely is skewed to the most experienced players at the top (I did peek at your post Trfel before popping this up - darn you for being faster than me this round!), but I feel Zlefin may not be a bad read where she placed him. I think at this point, I'd really like to see what Tere has to say here. -I think my biggest issue where Tere is, really is in the communication with Hier, the scum reading and then yes, the counter wagon that was met with little to no attempts. But, this could be attributed to tunneling. I just think a lot of effort went into this here, with little attempts to other things she said. It does come off as contradicting itself.
I agree with suspicion here, but I'm not sure Tere is an immediate lynch. Like I said, I'd really like to see what Tere has to say and go from there. I'm suspicious, but I some of the others catch my eye a bit more. I'm not all that unconvinced that you are on the wrong track, Trfel. Is this true? Do you actually have stronger scumreads? Is it just Zlefin or were you just saying that to make your say without leaving too much of a mark? Give that slight scumread and then lurk away?
At this time, the scummiest to me was indeed Zlefin who wasn't providing reasons for his reads (which he seems to have rectified!) and potentially ElyAs who wasn't around much at the time I posted that.
As I said before, I wanted to wait to see what Tere had to say at the time. With two-three days to see what was going on in her mind and how she wanted to play the game, it wasn't a joke when I said I do enjoy reading what she has to say regardless of what I think she is.
However, where I had time before, it's coming down on the clock and she's looking pretty rough to me right now.
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On February 19 2015 09:22 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 08:48 ElyAs wrote: I don't know. I really don't. Your play has been consistent with what you said in the beginning (about voting analysis and hunting inconsistences) and your case on Tere is also consistent. But I'm not moving with my read on Tere, so you're either misguided town or scum in my eyes. For now I can't decide so slight scum.
zlefin asked for a list of reads, here it is :
Townish : Trfel, Tere, ElyAs Null : JJB (need to filter dive), zlefin (want to filter dive too, my earlier scumread on you feels misguided to me.) Slight scumread : The Shining Scummy : Silverarte.
I really want to finish filter diving before casting my vote, but if I don't find a better lynch I'm okay with lynching Silver.
It's getting late, I'll have more tomorrow. Something is off. Ely has an unwillingness to even consider the idea that his read on Tere might be wrong, whereas even now, I'm still weary I may mistakenly mislynch. Since you can't decide, you'll just go with scum since that's what your townread is going with, right? One of you is scum but you strong towning her so hard gives me pause. And I'd rather not get hung up on unflipped association.
What precisely feels off here? The strong townread? Ely? or the read on Tere? (Double checking to make sure I understand).
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On February 19 2015 10:56 Trfel wrote: Silverarte, what challenge are you accepting?
Oh! Tere said to woman up. XD
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On February 19 2015 11:01 Trfel wrote: Also, it seems that Tere is the most opinion-polarizing read. While at the end of Night 1 she was generally scumread, now it seems to be about a 50/50 split. That's really interesting, and I think it's the first time we have an actual difference of opinions this game. I guess I have to reread Tere yet again.... ugh. Later.
That's what led me to eyeing her. It's not that she doesn't give good reads or doesn't seem to put work into it. I'd say everyone here is working really hard, learning and playing. It's just those massive shifts, the sudden jump at Shining with that argument and the otherwise lack of seeming willingness to provide information that...could be due to overall playfulness or mystery, but I'm reading it more as stepping away from reads and committing. (At least, until the Gladiator call with the Shining. Which, as town, is that something you really want to risk?)
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XD Trfel, I'm not looking for a free town read, but anyone who posts 'We Will Rock You' as part of the opening clearly has amazing taste in music. (I totally had that stuck in my head for days afterwards)
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On February 19 2015 11:12 The Shining wrote: Trfel. Lmao. Stahp. Contribute something productive or ask me something while you have both myself and Silver here. Your lynch vote is on Silver. Let's discuss this.
Silver, basically all of that. Ely blatantly says he won't budge from his read on Tere. As town, I'm personally always inclined to keep at least a 5% of healthy doubt. The only townie is a confirmed townie, IMO. Especially in a newbie game. I have trouble believing Ely is really that dead set on his read that he'd refuse to budge or be open to a case. And because he can't decide whether I'm scum or misguided town, I'm scum. Wouldn't not bring able to decide be null? Just seems to want to scum me after I scumread Tere. And after leaning town on me and agreeing my play is consistent and so were my posts.
Ahhhh, I see what you're saying. Just as a question (because yes, last game you all taught me the benefit of that healthy doubt), how much of this do you think is because of being new to the game?
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On February 19 2015 11:31 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 11:16 Silverarte wrote:On February 19 2015 11:12 The Shining wrote: Trfel. Lmao. Stahp. Contribute something productive or ask me something while you have both myself and Silver here. Your lynch vote is on Silver. Let's discuss this.
Silver, basically all of that. Ely blatantly says he won't budge from his read on Tere. As town, I'm personally always inclined to keep at least a 5% of healthy doubt. The only townie is a confirmed townie, IMO. Especially in a newbie game. I have trouble believing Ely is really that dead set on his read that he'd refuse to budge or be open to a case. And because he can't decide whether I'm scum or misguided town, I'm scum. Wouldn't not bring able to decide be null? Just seems to want to scum me after I scumread Tere. And after leaning town on me and agreeing my play is consistent and so were my posts. Ahhhh, I see what you're saying. Just as a question (because yes, last game you all taught me the benefit of that healthy doubt), how much of this do you think is because of being new to the game? Actually being new is why this worried me so much. I still have not encountered someone new to the game who has been so sure of a town read D2. My first newbie game, we had all but confirmed townies that I was still questioning due to newbie paranoia.
To be fair, this is my second game and I'm suspicious of everything. It's hard to navigate through all the information.
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On February 19 2015 11:36 Silverarte wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 11:31 The Shining wrote:On February 19 2015 11:16 Silverarte wrote:On February 19 2015 11:12 The Shining wrote: Trfel. Lmao. Stahp. Contribute something productive or ask me something while you have both myself and Silver here. Your lynch vote is on Silver. Let's discuss this.
Silver, basically all of that. Ely blatantly says he won't budge from his read on Tere. As town, I'm personally always inclined to keep at least a 5% of healthy doubt. The only townie is a confirmed townie, IMO. Especially in a newbie game. I have trouble believing Ely is really that dead set on his read that he'd refuse to budge or be open to a case. And because he can't decide whether I'm scum or misguided town, I'm scum. Wouldn't not bring able to decide be null? Just seems to want to scum me after I scumread Tere. And after leaning town on me and agreeing my play is consistent and so were my posts. Ahhhh, I see what you're saying. Just as a question (because yes, last game you all taught me the benefit of that healthy doubt), how much of this do you think is because of being new to the game? Actually being new is why this worried me so much. I still have not encountered someone new to the game who has been so sure of a town read D2. My first newbie game, we had all but confirmed townies that I was still questioning due to newbie paranoia. To be fair, this is my second game and I'm suspicious of everything. It's hard to navigate through all the information.
And then I hit the enter key before typing "So I can see what you mean." >< Go me.
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Shining, I'm glad you aren't quitting.
Trfel? What do you think of Ely as of right now? (In light of what you posted above to Shining)
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XD Sounds good Trfel. And I do totally understand.
Also, stepping out for an hour or so. I'm out of tea. (Tragedies!)
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Tea crisis solved. >< Back. Any questions for me while I float through?
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On February 19 2015 12:54 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 12:52 Silverarte wrote: Tea crisis solved. >< Back. Any questions for me while I float through? I'll take a look. General reads would be useful. Can we actually get one of those simple Town/Leaning Town/Null/Leaning Scum/Scum lists from you?
Oh sure. I'll get right on that. =)
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List of reads, as requested. =)
Town: Trfel Leaning Town: The Shining Null: Zlefin JarJar Leaning Scum: ElyAs Scum: Tere
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On February 19 2015 13:11 The Shining wrote: Left work, on mobile. Left late, making a quick stop, be back in less than 2 hours.
Ack. Be safe Shining!
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I was searching for a few of them, yes. I was researching it a bit just to see if anything else had switched up for me.
Also, I'm going to be heading to bed here shortly. If you have anything for me in the meantime I'm here, but otherwise, I need to hit the sack. XD
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On February 19 2015 13:23 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 13:22 Silverarte wrote: I was searching for a few of them, yes. I was researching it a bit just to see if anything else had switched up for me.
Also, I'm going to be heading to bed here shortly. If you have anything for me in the meantime I'm here, but otherwise, I need to hit the sack. XD Very well, good night. I might not actually get to your filter tonight, if not, first priority for tomorrow (after reading the thread, of course).
No worries. I look forward to your reads then. Take it easy and have a good night! (When you get to the resting bit and all that fun stuff)
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At work. Forgot to vote. Well, if I survive I'll explain votes. If not, oh well! I'll duck back in later.
(Also wow activity. You guys are amazing to read)
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On February 20 2015 07:22 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 07:20 The Shining wrote:On February 20 2015 07:18 Silverarte wrote: ## Vote Trfel OK. You're here. Stop lurking Right now, depending on JJB's votes and any last minute shenanies, you're set to be lynched. Trfel has given us a few goodbye posts and insights to look into, should he be lynched and flip town. I would like the same from you, please.
I'll try to squeeze it in between calls.
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Well! I came back to see I died.
the happy dagger pierced me true, persuading my heart to stop. =P
Just wanted to say thanks for an enjoyable game and good luck to everyone! Hope to see you all in the next one. =)
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