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On February 18 2015 05:02 zlefin wrote:
Looking through SilverArte's filter, I have a better feel about it; it feels good, but I'm not sure if that's a town sense I'm getting, or just general friendliness, I think it might just be the friendliness, because when I think of specific issues of concern I had with elyas (low overall quantity, lack of originality) it looks like those are still present, though definitely not to the same problematic degree as Elyas's filter.
Silver's definitely feel more helpful, and somewhat contentful. I'd also like to hear other's reactions to this assessment. That looks like a favorable read to me.
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On February 25 2015 03:52 zlefin wrote:
More favorable than before, yes; but note
"but I'm not sure if that's a town sense I'm getting, or just general friendliness, I think it might just be the friendliness, because when I think of specific issues of concern I had with elyas (low overall quantity, lack of originality) it looks like those are still present, though definitely not to the same problematic degree as Elyas's filter."
which is a pretty clear note that it has similar issues that elyas's had; and asks whether the town impression is a result of actual towniness, or is a misread, since the objective characteristics do not support the town part.
It feels like a terrible mixed read. Really noncommittal, you could use it to later go either way on Silverarte.
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I'm going to vote zlefin.
I hope I'm right.
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Jarjarbinks, can you explain how your stance on The Shining changed throughout the game and the reasons for this?
Thanks!
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Why was your read on him suspicious, even if only for a brief moment?
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I meant right at the start of the game. In this post. And yes, I do realize it was just an off-hand comment, but if you have any insights, I would appreciate it.
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Do you mean, you want a summary of how my reads developed over the course of the entire game?!?! o.O
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Yes, I had The Shining at a very strong town by the end of the game, as strong as I was on rsoultin at N1.
I had Tere at a mild scumread for some time, and then I changed it to a mild townread when I found her behavior to be consistent and had town explanations for it. Then after Silverarte flipped, I changed my stance on Tere to a strong scumread.
I guess you would have been at null or slight town for most of the game.
Zlefin has generally stayed around null or slight town as well.
Hier was null to slight scum.
Elyas was slight town until his claim, when I would call him strong town (if he didn't die that would go down later, haha).
Anything else?
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I wanted to lynch Silverarte on Day 2 much more than I wanted to lynch Hier on Day 1. You can tell this because I cased Silverarte multiple times.
I'm going to head out for a while, so hopefully that's enough for your analysis. I'll check back as soon as I can.
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I didn't have ElyAs at a strong townread until he claimed. It would have been a weak townread until then.
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On February 25 2015 12:59 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2015 12:29 Trfel wrote:
I didn't have ElyAs at a strong townread until he claimed. It would have been a weak townread until then. Did you have Shining/Tere as a higher Townread in D2 around the time Tere made her case on you? Yes to both.
I need to go to sleep, sorry. I'll take another look at what you come up with tomorrow.
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Jarjarbinks, some questions for you.
Why is the case that I bused Silverarte weak?
Why does my read analysis look good? Just because of the large number of reads?
My usage of my vote is poor. I haven't been very good at using my vote to pressure, so I mostly just wait until I'm sure who I want to lynch and vote for them then.
Zlefin, in Night 3 you listed the percentages for each player being scum. With Palmar dead, I have the highest remaining percentage. Why did you not vote for me?
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Ugh, I'm going to reread everything. To both of you, I would really appreciate answers to the questions I asked in the above post.
I'll try to get back close to EOD, because otherwise I don't think I will be able to see jarjarbinks' answer. But if I don't make it back in time, I'm sorry.
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I have this feeling that the entire obs chat is yelling and screaming at me.......
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One thing I notice is that The Shining's point about jarjarbinks giving him an unwarranted townread because he was suspicious of him is false. The correct order of events is:
1. The Shining says that we should be suspicious of jarjarbinks
2. Jarjarbinks says that he is initially suspicious of The Shining
3. Jarjarbinks goes back through The Shining's filter, and then moves The Shining to a townread
With a reasonable amount of time between these posts, I see nothing wrong with this progression or a slight townread on The Shining at this time.
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On February 16 2015 13:43 Silverarte wrote:
Oh, side note.
Shining: I'm really reading null where Zlefin is at this moment. For a D1 lynch, I'm hesitant. Hrm.
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Zlefin, I believe that you said that you read all of the TL mafia guides. However, these guides also say that lynching for information is almost always a terrible idea. Several times on day 1 you mentioned lynching for information.
Please explain?
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Thank you very much for answering, zlefin.
This is rather frustrating. I'm on page 41 of my read through, and I'm still leaning a bit towards zlefin.
Zlefin, what are your thoughts on Jarjarbinks' vote switch at the end of Day 2?
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On February 25 2015 13:35 jarjarbinks wrote:
I'm off to bed. I will be back about 1-2 hours before EOD. Sorry if this puts things in a bad position, but after work I will come straight home to help answer questions and put general thoughts on Trf's cases. I can't say much to Zlef's to defend myself, so I won't unless he posts another case on me. Where you at?
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On February 26 2015 07:46 jarjarbinks wrote:
just got here and read up lol
I'm assuming I should answer your questions over comment on your case first? Yeah,I'm mostly just looking for answers to the questions I asked.
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