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On February 19 2015 09:24 Tere wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 09:14 Trfel wrote:
Please don't throw the game for the sake of argument and ego.... Hush now, he's either rage quit or pretended to rage quit or I'm not sure but i've been told off for swearing. Whatever alignment he is, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts he ain't quitting. And most of this is alignment neutral for me. If you have a meta on whether scum Shining would crumble against a strong defence, hit me with it, but right now I think it's a passionate person doing something passionate and it's not alignment indicatiive (and quite frankly, in a newbie game, I'd throw to the newbies if I had to. Not that I won't give them a run for a money if it's neutral (because an easy ride is boring )) I don't have any helpful meta on The Shining, except that in his first game, I remember that he looked really scummy on Day 1 (we were both town), and I tried to get him lynched. Whether this is his scum or mafia game, he's improved a ton since then.
I'll definitely take another look at what both of you are getting at, but I want to take a detailed look at everything that's happened since I left first (looking at this whole Tere-Shining thing will probably take hours, so I'll get the easy stuff out of the way).
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On February 19 2015 09:30 Tere wrote:
I think everyone needs to time out, and the Shining needs to get his butt in. That's where I'm at, anyway.
Time out 10 hours, goodnight. Good night.
Ironically, I've barely played this game at all today. I feel really refreshed and my mind is much clearer. So for me, it's work time. I also work much better at night, so there's that.
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We should make a Circe role that turns people into pigs. That would be the coolest role ever. Make it happen!
But yes, you two, take a break and think logically and then we can go find the scum together.
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A response to Tere (because zlefin asked for it, shrug)
Note that I do not require a response if you do not choose to provide one. It is spoilered because I don't see it as being very important.
+ Show Spoiler +This post makes a lot of sense. I understand more at what you were getting at in your Walls of Text. Not directed towards me, but this is really nice to see. Now, this post. I hate adding responses inside quotes, so bear with me (if anyone is actually reading this). As to me being patronizing to Tere ("good girl, well done"), this is not intended in the slightest. Whether she is scum or town, I'm pretty sure that Tere is the most skilled player left in this game, and I have no right whatsoever to be condescending to her. My only intention was to acknowledge the effort and thank her for it, and say that I felt that it made rather good evidence for her being town. As for me judging my own play, I was not looking for sympathy, and my intention was not to talk about myself. I was saying that you townread me for something, and I didn't like your reasoning, while allowing for the possibility of an accurate tone read (because I am terrible at tone reads). I have already accepted that Tere and I think differently and work differently. I don't think that is a problem. As for simplifying your reads, you are right that that part of my post was horrid. I have no explanation. As for me not being confident in my tone read of Tere, I'm bad at tone reads, of course I'm not confident in it (that won't stop me from trying to use tone reads, though...). I guess it makes sense that you don't want to lead a wagon. I disagree, and think that you are good enough at this game that I think you ought to lead a wagon, but I understand what you are saying and I accept it. And no, I'm not scum. I am not 100% sure of your alignment, but I think you are town.
On February 19 2015 09:45 The Shining wrote:
Lmao the Circe thing made me lol. Tere, I guess I should've outright stated it but I didn't take any offense.
Can I also point out I'm somewhat reminded of how RSo and Geript went at it in Student Mafia V? Scum really likes hanging back when these kinds of interactions happen. I want everyone's reactions, please. Tagging this at the bottom because I'm not sure it deserves its own post. You already have my reaction, to me it seems like a town vs town argument.
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Also, I get the feeling that we are going to be going crazy come the deadline. This is a difficult lynch and I doubt it's going to settle. Therefore, if you are willing to put in more effort now to not only keep up, but filter dive like crazy and post results, it would be much appreciated.
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On February 19 2015 06:53 Silverarte wrote:
We had, as of then, over two more days to figure out who our next lynch was be. With D2 around the corner, my thought was we had time to figure out just what Tere was doing and where Zlefin was going to pop up as. I'm going to trust Tere and not respond to Silverarte's post at this time, I suppose. But this part does require response.
In the future, please don't do this. You can NEVER have too much time to work out a lynch (if you are town, I bet that an hour before the Day 2 lynch deadline you'll be wishing you had been more active at night). I have been told in the past by extremely reliable sources that town's best strategy is to continue scumhunting full steam at night. Yes, I am aware that some people disagree, but I currently feel that it is best to use the night to scumhunt as well.
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You're not expected to comment on anything, that's why I said that you don't need to respond XD
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On February 19 2015 06:53 Silverarte wrote:
I have asked a couple times if anyone's had questions for me. While people have interacted with me, I've not seen many questions until Tere joined us and did that odd play with the bullets. On that note, if anyone has other questions for me now, please feel free to ask. I'll respond tot his part as well.
My problem with this is that I don't feel you have done all that much so far this game (no offense, you've been really busy). Therefore, I don't really have any questions for you besides the general "who is scum, who is town?" My not asking questions by no means indicates that I don't want to hear more from you, it just indicates that I have no specific questions at the time.
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On February 19 2015 10:08 The Shining wrote:
Just a heads up, my first post today up until about 6-8 hours from now are my most active times. I'm a night worker, mornings aren't my thing. But I'll def catch up with you as soon as I'm awake. Wait, so The Shining, you are going to be here for another 6-8 hours?
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To both The Shining and Tere.
I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, I feel that it is a horrible thing to do to lie about activity. It just feels like it's avoiding playing the game, and what is the fun of that? I recognize that it happens, but I really try not to set assumed levels for people's activity and require them to be active during those times.
The Shining, hopefully we can have some productive discussion tonight, then. I won't be up for as long as you, but I will be up for a while.
That said, I need to go grab dinner now, I'll be back later.
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1000th post. Time for some music!
+ Show Spoiler + (I'm a trumpet player, what can I say? XD )
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Silverarte, what challenge are you accepting?
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Also, it seems that Tere is the most opinion-polarizing read. While at the end of Night 1 she was generally scumread, now it seems to be about a 50/50 split. That's really interesting, and I think it's the first time we have an actual difference of opinions this game. I guess I have to reread Tere yet again.... ugh. Later.
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Hey mods, can you give me a one time day alignment check so I can check Tere?
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Oh, and free townreads for anyone who comments on the songs I posted!
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Oh, and I'm wondering, are people interested in me posting an analysis on the argument between The Shining and Tere? (warning, it would be rather long...) I'd rather not, and just focus on figuring out their alignments, but if multiple people (particularly The Shining and/or Tere) want me to chime in, I could do so.
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The Shining, I get to relax every now and then XD
Point taken, though. I really am quite hypocritical.
On February 19 2015 11:12 The Shining wrote:
Silver, basically all of that. Ely blatantly says he won't budge from his read on Tere. As town, I'm personally always inclined to keep at least a 5% of healthy doubt. The only townie is a confirmed townie, IMO. Especially in a newbie game. I have trouble believing Ely is really that dead set on his read that he'd refuse to budge or be open to a case. And because he can't decide whether I'm scum or misguided town, I'm scum. Wouldn't not bring able to decide be null? Just seems to want to scum me after I scumread Tere. And after leaning town on me and agreeing my play is consistent and so were my posts. I disagree. People use different words to describe their feelings. There are some people who go back on reads they describe as 100% definite. Given ElyAs's reasoning and overall filter picture, I see no problem here. If you want, I'll take another look, but it will be in a while.
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Tere
Can I get clarification as to why you moved Silverarte to a scum read?
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On February 19 2015 11:20 Trfel wrote:
Tere
Can I get clarification as to why you moved Silverarte to a scum read? Ah, shoot, you already said that you don't want to answer this fully. Oh well, but if you are willing to answer, it would be nice to know. To clarify, I see you leave hints as to your reasons, but it would be nice to have them out in the open and clear.
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