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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 23 2015 00:24 GMT
#31
/in
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 23 2015 04:35 GMT
#59
On January 23 2015 09:42 Toadesstern wrote:
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VE and Toad reuniting to kill all townies in this game. I can already smell it. Even better if we end up being mafia together!

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if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 01:34 GMT
#198
Hi guys! I'm protesting the game being pushed back to today by not participating until tomorrow!

Just kidding, I'm watching Newsroom with the wife. But the end result is the same, I won't be in this thread consistently until AM my time.

See you guys in a little while!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 14:53 GMT
#304
I'm here. Reading now.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 15:09 GMT
#310
I really really dislike GB's "mind-dumps" or whatever. Like - it just reeks of "Hey guys look at how productive I am! I mean I've got notes on EVERY PLAYER here!"

Eden calling lurkers (me Palmar Robik) mafia is really irksome to me. Like, what's the point of lynching lurkers if you're going to ignore the people posting? Does he give reasoning for townreading everyone but lurkers?

And lian focusing on Eden because of "assumptions" and "omgus" is....strange. I don't know if I think it's mafia or town. Like...on the one hand maybe he just can't think of anything else to say as town. On the other, if he's mafia he's doing a good job of not doing anything while looking like he's doing something. I think I lean mafia.

Assuming no hard lurkers later in the day, these are the three I'd lynch into today.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 15:10 GMT
#311
And hammer games need at least twice and maybe three times more votecounts. Just sayin.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 15:21 GMT
#315
On January 27 2015 00:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 00:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I really really dislike GB's "mind-dumps" or whatever. Like - it just reeks of "Hey guys look at how productive I am! I mean I've got notes on EVERY PLAYER here!"


...and assuming you've played with GB more, esp as scum....he appears to have had LOADS more those in his scum games I'm reading through so far.

Yeah I'm not really into looking up old games anymore. If you want to and provide evidence etc, be my guest. For my part, I'm just interested in his behavior in this game and the choices and posts he makes here. So far it seems scum to me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 15:22 GMT
#317
On January 27 2015 00:20 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 00:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I really really dislike GB's "mind-dumps" or whatever. Like - it just reeks of "Hey guys look at how productive I am! I mean I've got notes on EVERY PLAYER here!"

Eden calling lurkers (me Palmar Robik) mafia is really irksome to me. Like, what's the point of lynching lurkers if you're going to ignore the people posting? Does he give reasoning for townreading everyone but lurkers?

And lian focusing on Eden because of "assumptions" and "omgus" is....strange. I don't know if I think it's mafia or town. Like...on the one hand maybe he just can't think of anything else to say as town. On the other, if he's mafia he's doing a good job of not doing anything while looking like he's doing something. I think I lean mafia.

Assuming no hard lurkers later in the day, these are the three I'd lynch into today.



Dude look at fantasy football mafia 2 and to mafia lxviii. And compare GB's posts in those games he's town.

I'm not looking at any past games.

Look, over 3/4 of the "notes" he has on players in this game are fucking one-word jokes. His note on me is "Cool Beard" and his note on Robik is "Ughhh". There's nothing in either of those posts that seems to me like he is actually trying to find mafia. It just looks like he's trying to appear busy to me, and that looks mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 15:29 GMT
#319
##Vote: GlowingBear

Just so we're clear, I'm for real real...not for play play.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:20 GMT
#336
On January 27 2015 00:39 GlowingBear wrote:
VE, I've said pre-game I was going to try something new. This is what in trying. If you're scumreading me based on a post where I post one liners about people that said ANYTHING in the thread, you're scum

I'm scumreading you because it doesn't look like you're trying to figure out the game. But neither reason for scumreading you makes me scum, nice try though.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:24 GMT
#337
On January 27 2015 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 23:55 Half the Sky wrote:
Palmar is another player who I've not played with. All of a single post. I'm surprised GB isn't giving the same read on him as he is Robik.

I was pretty sure town Palmar is someone who tries to solve the game. Or does he throw sarcastic remarks D1 as well?


the fuck are you doing?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:26 GMT
#339
On January 27 2015 01:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 00:39 GlowingBear wrote:
VE, I've said pre-game I was going to try something new. This is what in trying. If you're scumreading me based on a post where I post one liners about people that said ANYTHING in the thread, you're scum

I'm scumreading you because it doesn't look like you're trying to figure out the game. But neither reason for scumreading you makes me scum, nice try though.


I'm sorry, have you read all the quotations?

No, you said they're just for you and the ones I opened were god-awful. Why would I open ALL of them when the ones I DO open are fucking useless?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:30 GMT
#342
Doing you are fuck the?

I don't know what that means.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar


Palmar's first day is his strongest, and he's not trying to get reads on anyone. He claims to not be reading the thread, and he's not trying to get anyone lynched.

GB's response to HTS is at least quasi-reasonable, Palmar is being maliciously bad.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:32 GMT
#345
On January 27 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Doing you are fuck the?

I don't know what that means.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar


Palmar's first day is his strongest, and he's not trying to get reads on anyone. He claims to not be reading the thread, and he's not trying to get anyone lynched.

GB's response to HTS is at least quasi-reasonable, Palmar is being maliciously bad.

Correct.

Now look within yourself, is there a correlation between what you have just discovered and the alignment you imply I have received?

The "I'm playing too scummy to be scum" means literally less than nothing when you point it out yourself Palmar.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:35 GMT
#347
On January 27 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Doing you are fuck the?

I don't know what that means.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar


Palmar's first day is his strongest, and he's not trying to get reads on anyone. He claims to not be reading the thread, and he's not trying to get anyone lynched.

GB's response to HTS is at least quasi-reasonable, Palmar is being maliciously bad.

Correct.

Now look within yourself, is there a correlation between what you have just discovered and the alignment you imply I have received?

The "I'm playing too scummy to be scum" means literally less than nothing when you point it out yourself Palmar.

If that is what you believe, who am I to question it?

I'll lynch you, you know. If you're town you know I'm bad enough.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:37 GMT
#349
Like Palmar is talking to me as if he knows I'm town. If no one else is noticing this, there isn't much else I can do.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:42 GMT
#354
On January 27 2015 01:39 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Palmar is talking to me as if he knows I'm town. If no one else is noticing this, there isn't much else I can do.

You were being right so much, but now you have become wrong.

This worries me. Not for your sake, but for mine.

Maybe help me out a bit by not trolling if you're town?

Like, I'm not sure when playing mafia like a real person and not a troll became boring for you, but if you're town this is really aggravating for me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:44 GMT
#356
On January 27 2015 01:42 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Palmar is talking to me as if he knows I'm town. If no one else is noticing this, there isn't much else I can do.

nah he's assuming you are town for the sake of discussion which isn't weird at all.
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:37 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Doing you are fuck the?

I don't know what that means.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar


Palmar's first day is his strongest, and he's not trying to get reads on anyone. He claims to not be reading the thread, and he's not trying to get anyone lynched.

GB's response to HTS is at least quasi-reasonable, Palmar is being maliciously bad.

Correct.

Now look within yourself, is there a correlation between what you have just discovered and the alignment you imply I have received?

The "I'm playing too scummy to be scum" means literally less than nothing when you point it out yourself Palmar.

If that is what you believe, who am I to question it?

I'll lynch you, you know. If you're town you know I'm bad enough.

I have never doubted that this is true.

that's a jest and nothing more to read into it imo
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Toad, thoughts on Robik so far? Have you played with him?

I know I have played with him once... I think I lynched him instead of a confirmed mafia because he was annoying... Or he was the mafia I should have lynched and I lynched someone else because I was annoyed.... all I remember is being furious about him and someone else

.........okay, so why are YOU assuming Palmar is town?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:46 GMT
#358
On January 27 2015 01:42 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Palmar is talking to me as if he knows I'm town. If no one else is noticing this, there isn't much else I can do.

nah he's assuming you are town for the sake of discussion which isn't weird at all.
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:37 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Doing you are fuck the?

I don't know what that means.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar


Palmar's first day is his strongest, and he's not trying to get reads on anyone. He claims to not be reading the thread, and he's not trying to get anyone lynched.

GB's response to HTS is at least quasi-reasonable, Palmar is being maliciously bad.

Correct.

Now look within yourself, is there a correlation between what you have just discovered and the alignment you imply I have received?

The "I'm playing too scummy to be scum" means literally less than nothing when you point it out yourself Palmar.

If that is what you believe, who am I to question it?

I'll lynch you, you know. If you're town you know I'm bad enough.

I have never doubted that this is true.

that's a jest and nothing more to read into it imo
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Toad, thoughts on Robik so far? Have you played with him?

I know I have played with him once... I think I lynched him instead of a confirmed mafia because he was annoying... Or he was the mafia I should have lynched and I lynched someone else because I was annoyed.... all I remember is being furious about him and someone else

Like he's not doing the bolded because he is NOT trying to have a discussion with me. He's just trolling. So if he's NOT doing it for the sake of discussion, then what other reason could he have for "assuming I'm town" other than "He knows I'm town because he's scum"?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:48 GMT
#360
HES NOT TRYING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH ME TOAD! THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE BECAUSE IT'S DEMONSTRABLY FALSE!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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