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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 09:08 GMT
#700
On January 27 2015 18:05 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 18:00 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote:
All people wanting to lynch Liancourt, I urge you to please wait 3-5h until he wakes up before pushing his lynch. He is unable to defend himself because he's asleep.

Perspective please.


This guy is town.

qtpi aint no guy

okay, thank you for supplying valuable information.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 09:53 GMT
#706
On January 27 2015 18:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 18:03 Palmar wrote:
Eden is town

So this leaves:

GB
lian
Toad
Onegu

But then again I'm bad and idk.

The best argument against GB is that he attempted to create a framework for his thought process and didn't really follow it through. It is very tempting to create a framework for yourself when you're mafia "I am only going to read 2 people today", "I am going to do list posts and update them", because it makes posting easier, you just follow whichever formula you have supplied and no one suspects a thing! simple, right?

I can't remember why I think Toad is maybe mafia. But he really could be. The other two I haven't read that much.

no visceraeyes on list. ._?_0_i

I already said VE is town.

He's my #1 townread.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 10:27 GMT
#711
On January 27 2015 19:04 Eden1892 wrote:
oki. is liancourt town? i decided he was but it's hard for me to evaluate him

I have no idea.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 10:28 GMT
#712
Do you think my concern regarding GB is irrelevant Toad?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 10:43 GMT
#714
On January 27 2015 19:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote:
Do you think my concern regarding GB is irrelevant Toad?

I've never done that as mafia ever. I'm not even sure if "against GB" means "against GB lynch" or "against GB (being town)" with the topic being what it is recently.

So what?

I feel like it's a mafia thing to do. Unlike all the baddies who cling to meta, I don't care if it's been done before or if he has done it before. I think it's a scummy way to frame your posting this current game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 14:26 GMT
#723
On January 27 2015 20:31 Half the Sky wrote:
Palmar you don't think Lian's most recent posting elevates his standing to you at all?

I haven't read it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 14:30 GMT
#724
On January 27 2015 21:54 GlowingBear wrote:
HTS I'm not ignoring your posts, I'm just not reading a lot from the thread yet. Sometimes I get a random page and see what's going on. That's all.

You're calling me mafia for things that doesn't make me mafia. You're too tunnelled.

who is mafia.

Clearly, by this post, you don't think HTS is mafia, as do you think robik is. Me and my bro VE are town, and in your world you must be town.

So that leaves

Toad
liancourt
eden
onegu

two of which were your original townreads.

lian/toad

so that leaves Eden and Onegu as the mafia team.

Eden isn't mafia, so.... onegu is mafia?

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 14:30 GMT
#725
##vote Glowingbear
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 14:31 GMT
#726
Kill it with fire!
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 14:32 GMT
#727
toad and glowingbear, you can just concede now, if you want to.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 14:41 GMT
#728
On January 27 2015 18:22 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 18:03 Palmar wrote:
Eden is town

So this leaves:

GB
lian
Toad
Onegu

But then again I'm bad and idk.

The best argument against GB is that he attempted to create a framework for his thought process and didn't really follow it through. It is very tempting to create a framework for yourself when you're mafia "I am only going to read 2 people today", "I am going to do list posts and update them", because it makes posting easier, you just follow whichever formula you have supplied and no one suspects a thing! simple, right?

I can't remember why I think Toad is maybe mafia. But he really could be. The other two I haven't read that much.

if you take out my name from that list those other three have been the ones I want to lynch every since the last... 24 hours? ... what does that tell us about what you should be thinking about me?

This post is complete horseshit

On January 27 2015 15:54 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 14:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Sanity please. Good morning.

Took about 10m to skim through. Will post my initial impressions before I jet for work.

I'll look a little harder into Liancourt's posting, but I have some thoughts and some criticisms.

This post from Lian is making me reconsider a scum read on him. Here's why:

On January 27 2015 13:51 liancourt wrote:
@toad

I know you're trying to be the thread mayor and all, but I really expected HF/marv/koshi level play from you, but I'm somewhat disappointed...maybe I had high expectations of you or maybe you're holding back for some reason. It's like you're playing politics and moderating everything instead of pointing fingers and pushing things hard.



How many scumreads does Toad have right now? From what I can tell, zero.

This part of Lian's post is making me think that what if a (potential) mafia Toad could cruise on being so widely townread? It doesn't look likely at this point, but the fact that it made me think, and it shows that Lian has made some broad observation of a player relative to the entire game, despite Toad himself only having a three page filter.

I took a look at Toad's filter, and he seems to be in that information gathering/analysing phase of scumhunting, but if I don't see him pushing something/someone soon, I might just start to wonder. His first vote was on Liancourt on what I believed to be a pressure vote and then he unvoted.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still reading Toad as town, but this was a very provocative post by Lian and makes me think he's town for this observation. At the very least, I might actually move him upwards from my scumpile.

I'm one of the guys that figures out who's town and lynches into whoever is left, starting with the guy my stomach likes the least as I'm usually incredibly confident in my townreads. You're probably not going to see me make long cases about people being mafia. That mostly goes out to you and lian who said he expected me to be someone like Marv/HF... I even told you that I'm the kind of guy that just looks cute and everyone wants to cuddle :3

That being said, a walkthrough of my thoughts lately would be: We lynch into Eden / Lian / Onegu, preferably Lian or Onegu at the point of when I made my general list. Robik if we havn't won by then.

Right now I'm fairly confident that I don't want to touch Eden at all, he has been quite impressive the last 24~30 hours or so and like I already said I agree with that one point on GB you did, so he dropped in my list. So for right now it's between Onegu and Lian, leaning towards Onegu. GB for me is an option I'd be willing to discuss but that to me has the same value as a policy lynch because a potential mislynch on GB would be a disaster. Meaning if that guy ends up town we had the easiest votedump for mafia ever for d1. Onegu has that under-the-radar but not just completly afk feel to him I don't like. Lian I have to reread some because people apparently think he got super towny in the last couple hours?

I'd also like to add Palmar to the list because he still hasn't done shit at all but let's be honest here, he knows me good enough to know that I'd only be pressuring and asking people to give him one more day if push comes to shove. I've seen him behave exactly like this as town multiple times (I think? at least once), which doesn't make him town but I'd try to avoid that lynch d1.


On January 27 2015 08:19 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 08:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:51 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - what also struck me was people in this thread townreading GB simply because he seemed to be putting in the effort for his notetaking posts.

I'm mostly still townreading him for the vote on me that had a townish confidence to it to not give a fuck

About your case. I actually quite like it and am considering GB a null at best right now...
I don't care so much about your first point about him and your last point, but the second one about Onegu just commenting on the vote without trying to figure anything out when indeed he was confused and asked about wether it's a troll / mayor / lynch vote at just that time.

That could very well be painting someone red rather than trying to read someone.


the more I think about that one point, the more I like it actually. It is clearly showing mafia agenda, more so than any other case done so far, including my own reads that are all based on how people are interacting here because d1 is usually really hard to get some mafia agenda when noone has flipped yet.

I'd be voting him if I didn't want to make sure we get more time right now. There's still the lingering fear that he's bad and the easy mislynch but it makes me feel way better about this.


On January 27 2015 08:00 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:51 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - what also struck me was people in this thread townreading GB simply because he seemed to be putting in the effort for his notetaking posts.

I'm mostly still townreading him for the vote on me that had a townish confidence to it to not give a fuck

About your case. I actually quite like it and am considering GB a null at best right now...
I don't care so much about your first point about him and your last point, but the second one about Onegu just commenting on the vote without trying to figure anything out when indeed he was confused and asked about wether it's a troll / mayor / lynch vote at just that time.

That could very well be painting someone red rather than trying to read someone.


On January 27 2015 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
can someone restate the things that make GB mafia that don't boil down to "he's bad"?
I don't care about him being wrong with what he does. I want to see why doing what's wrong is more beneficial for him as mafia than as a townie.

Because I still only see him as the easy mislynch to be honest.


In fact I am much more sure on Toad being mafia than GB. But lynching both might be fine.

The point here is Toad is waffling so hard on GB that it's almost painful
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 14:41 GMT
#729
Actually for now

##vote Toadesstern

Die scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 15:08 GMT
#738
I have literally never understood why the unvote is necessary, but ok

##unvote
##vote Toadesstern
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 15:15 GMT
#740
HTS you are weird and you say things that make little sense.

I like you.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 15:19 GMT
#742
On January 28 2015 00:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 00:15 Palmar wrote:
HTS you are weird and you say things that make little sense.

I like you.


Is this sarcastic? (Honest question.)

If you're being serious, I'll probably ask you a bit more post-game.

100% serious.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 15:33 GMT
#748
On January 28 2015 00:23 Half the Sky wrote:
Palmar, one practical question for you then, what would you do if the votes aren't there for Toad as we're getting closer to EoD?

Kill GB

i'm not particularly fussed which one dies. Toad is just the better lynch.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 15:33 GMT
#749
Hi onegu
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 15:35 GMT
#750
On January 28 2015 00:22 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 00:15 Palmar wrote:
HTS you are weird and you say things that make little sense.

I like you.

You're very manipulative

Yeah but I'm such a dear while I'm at it that it's ok.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 16:22 GMT
#764
On January 28 2015 01:13 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Glowingbear

Go. Hammer me.

On so many levels are you terrible if you're town. Martyring is the hallmark of awful town players.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 27 2015 16:23 GMT
#767
Like I am going to policy hammer you just for that shit. I just want you alive for long enough to acknowledge your badness.
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