• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:46
CEST 08:46
KST 15:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent8Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues0LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris66
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2 #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ The Korean Terminology Thread
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group A [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1234 users

[M][N]Hammertime Mafia - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 9 10 11 Next All
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 09:08 GMT
#700
On January 27 2015 18:05 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 18:00 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote:
All people wanting to lynch Liancourt, I urge you to please wait 3-5h until he wakes up before pushing his lynch. He is unable to defend himself because he's asleep.

Perspective please.


This guy is town.

qtpi aint no guy

okay, thank you for supplying valuable information.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 09:53 GMT
#706
On January 27 2015 18:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 18:03 Palmar wrote:
Eden is town

So this leaves:

GB
lian
Toad
Onegu

But then again I'm bad and idk.

The best argument against GB is that he attempted to create a framework for his thought process and didn't really follow it through. It is very tempting to create a framework for yourself when you're mafia "I am only going to read 2 people today", "I am going to do list posts and update them", because it makes posting easier, you just follow whichever formula you have supplied and no one suspects a thing! simple, right?

I can't remember why I think Toad is maybe mafia. But he really could be. The other two I haven't read that much.

no visceraeyes on list. ._?_0_i

I already said VE is town.

He's my #1 townread.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 10:27 GMT
#711
On January 27 2015 19:04 Eden1892 wrote:
oki. is liancourt town? i decided he was but it's hard for me to evaluate him

I have no idea.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 10:28 GMT
#712
Do you think my concern regarding GB is irrelevant Toad?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 10:43 GMT
#714
On January 27 2015 19:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote:
Do you think my concern regarding GB is irrelevant Toad?

I've never done that as mafia ever. I'm not even sure if "against GB" means "against GB lynch" or "against GB (being town)" with the topic being what it is recently.

So what?

I feel like it's a mafia thing to do. Unlike all the baddies who cling to meta, I don't care if it's been done before or if he has done it before. I think it's a scummy way to frame your posting this current game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 14:26 GMT
#723
On January 27 2015 20:31 Half the Sky wrote:
Palmar you don't think Lian's most recent posting elevates his standing to you at all?

I haven't read it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 14:30 GMT
#724
On January 27 2015 21:54 GlowingBear wrote:
HTS I'm not ignoring your posts, I'm just not reading a lot from the thread yet. Sometimes I get a random page and see what's going on. That's all.

You're calling me mafia for things that doesn't make me mafia. You're too tunnelled.

who is mafia.

Clearly, by this post, you don't think HTS is mafia, as do you think robik is. Me and my bro VE are town, and in your world you must be town.

So that leaves

Toad
liancourt
eden
onegu

two of which were your original townreads.

lian/toad

so that leaves Eden and Onegu as the mafia team.

Eden isn't mafia, so.... onegu is mafia?

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 14:30 GMT
#725
##vote Glowingbear
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 14:31 GMT
#726
Kill it with fire!
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 14:32 GMT
#727
toad and glowingbear, you can just concede now, if you want to.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 14:41 GMT
#728
On January 27 2015 18:22 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 18:03 Palmar wrote:
Eden is town

So this leaves:

GB
lian
Toad
Onegu

But then again I'm bad and idk.

The best argument against GB is that he attempted to create a framework for his thought process and didn't really follow it through. It is very tempting to create a framework for yourself when you're mafia "I am only going to read 2 people today", "I am going to do list posts and update them", because it makes posting easier, you just follow whichever formula you have supplied and no one suspects a thing! simple, right?

I can't remember why I think Toad is maybe mafia. But he really could be. The other two I haven't read that much.

if you take out my name from that list those other three have been the ones I want to lynch every since the last... 24 hours? ... what does that tell us about what you should be thinking about me?

This post is complete horseshit

On January 27 2015 15:54 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 14:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Sanity please. Good morning.

Took about 10m to skim through. Will post my initial impressions before I jet for work.

I'll look a little harder into Liancourt's posting, but I have some thoughts and some criticisms.

This post from Lian is making me reconsider a scum read on him. Here's why:

On January 27 2015 13:51 liancourt wrote:
@toad

I know you're trying to be the thread mayor and all, but I really expected HF/marv/koshi level play from you, but I'm somewhat disappointed...maybe I had high expectations of you or maybe you're holding back for some reason. It's like you're playing politics and moderating everything instead of pointing fingers and pushing things hard.



How many scumreads does Toad have right now? From what I can tell, zero.

This part of Lian's post is making me think that what if a (potential) mafia Toad could cruise on being so widely townread? It doesn't look likely at this point, but the fact that it made me think, and it shows that Lian has made some broad observation of a player relative to the entire game, despite Toad himself only having a three page filter.

I took a look at Toad's filter, and he seems to be in that information gathering/analysing phase of scumhunting, but if I don't see him pushing something/someone soon, I might just start to wonder. His first vote was on Liancourt on what I believed to be a pressure vote and then he unvoted.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still reading Toad as town, but this was a very provocative post by Lian and makes me think he's town for this observation. At the very least, I might actually move him upwards from my scumpile.

I'm one of the guys that figures out who's town and lynches into whoever is left, starting with the guy my stomach likes the least as I'm usually incredibly confident in my townreads. You're probably not going to see me make long cases about people being mafia. That mostly goes out to you and lian who said he expected me to be someone like Marv/HF... I even told you that I'm the kind of guy that just looks cute and everyone wants to cuddle :3

That being said, a walkthrough of my thoughts lately would be: We lynch into Eden / Lian / Onegu, preferably Lian or Onegu at the point of when I made my general list. Robik if we havn't won by then.

Right now I'm fairly confident that I don't want to touch Eden at all, he has been quite impressive the last 24~30 hours or so and like I already said I agree with that one point on GB you did, so he dropped in my list. So for right now it's between Onegu and Lian, leaning towards Onegu. GB for me is an option I'd be willing to discuss but that to me has the same value as a policy lynch because a potential mislynch on GB would be a disaster. Meaning if that guy ends up town we had the easiest votedump for mafia ever for d1. Onegu has that under-the-radar but not just completly afk feel to him I don't like. Lian I have to reread some because people apparently think he got super towny in the last couple hours?

I'd also like to add Palmar to the list because he still hasn't done shit at all but let's be honest here, he knows me good enough to know that I'd only be pressuring and asking people to give him one more day if push comes to shove. I've seen him behave exactly like this as town multiple times (I think? at least once), which doesn't make him town but I'd try to avoid that lynch d1.


On January 27 2015 08:19 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 08:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:51 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - what also struck me was people in this thread townreading GB simply because he seemed to be putting in the effort for his notetaking posts.

I'm mostly still townreading him for the vote on me that had a townish confidence to it to not give a fuck

About your case. I actually quite like it and am considering GB a null at best right now...
I don't care so much about your first point about him and your last point, but the second one about Onegu just commenting on the vote without trying to figure anything out when indeed he was confused and asked about wether it's a troll / mayor / lynch vote at just that time.

That could very well be painting someone red rather than trying to read someone.


the more I think about that one point, the more I like it actually. It is clearly showing mafia agenda, more so than any other case done so far, including my own reads that are all based on how people are interacting here because d1 is usually really hard to get some mafia agenda when noone has flipped yet.

I'd be voting him if I didn't want to make sure we get more time right now. There's still the lingering fear that he's bad and the easy mislynch but it makes me feel way better about this.


On January 27 2015 08:00 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:51 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - what also struck me was people in this thread townreading GB simply because he seemed to be putting in the effort for his notetaking posts.

I'm mostly still townreading him for the vote on me that had a townish confidence to it to not give a fuck

About your case. I actually quite like it and am considering GB a null at best right now...
I don't care so much about your first point about him and your last point, but the second one about Onegu just commenting on the vote without trying to figure anything out when indeed he was confused and asked about wether it's a troll / mayor / lynch vote at just that time.

That could very well be painting someone red rather than trying to read someone.


On January 27 2015 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
can someone restate the things that make GB mafia that don't boil down to "he's bad"?
I don't care about him being wrong with what he does. I want to see why doing what's wrong is more beneficial for him as mafia than as a townie.

Because I still only see him as the easy mislynch to be honest.


In fact I am much more sure on Toad being mafia than GB. But lynching both might be fine.

The point here is Toad is waffling so hard on GB that it's almost painful
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 14:41 GMT
#729
Actually for now

##vote Toadesstern

Die scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 15:08 GMT
#738
I have literally never understood why the unvote is necessary, but ok

##unvote
##vote Toadesstern
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 15:15 GMT
#740
HTS you are weird and you say things that make little sense.

I like you.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 15:19 GMT
#742
On January 28 2015 00:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 00:15 Palmar wrote:
HTS you are weird and you say things that make little sense.

I like you.


Is this sarcastic? (Honest question.)

If you're being serious, I'll probably ask you a bit more post-game.

100% serious.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 15:33 GMT
#748
On January 28 2015 00:23 Half the Sky wrote:
Palmar, one practical question for you then, what would you do if the votes aren't there for Toad as we're getting closer to EoD?

Kill GB

i'm not particularly fussed which one dies. Toad is just the better lynch.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 15:33 GMT
#749
Hi onegu
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 15:35 GMT
#750
On January 28 2015 00:22 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 00:15 Palmar wrote:
HTS you are weird and you say things that make little sense.

I like you.

You're very manipulative

Yeah but I'm such a dear while I'm at it that it's ok.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 16:22 GMT
#764
On January 28 2015 01:13 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Glowingbear

Go. Hammer me.

On so many levels are you terrible if you're town. Martyring is the hallmark of awful town players.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 27 2015 16:23 GMT
#767
Like I am going to policy hammer you just for that shit. I just want you alive for long enough to acknowledge your badness.
Computer says mafia
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft637
Nina 168
ProTech74
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 652
sSak 167
Aegong 50
Bale 48
Movie 27
yabsab 18
Hm[arnc] 10
Shine 8
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 639
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K677
allub21
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King81
Other Games
summit1g6914
shahzam827
C9.Mang0315
NeuroSwarm72
ViBE33
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1063
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1835
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 14m
Afreeca Starleague
3h 14m
Soulkey vs Barracks
EffOrt vs Rush
Monday Night Weeklies
9h 14m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 3h
BeSt vs Alone
Queen vs Bisu
The PondCast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Cosmonarchy
5 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21: BSL Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.