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Eden1892
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Lian says I am different from what he remembers so I'm bad But I was scum then If I Different from before isn't that town??? Confused | ||
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On January 26 2015 11:43 GlowingBear wrote: Eden, unfortunately, you're not mastered at the drunken mafia Kung fu like me. I suggest you to go drinking Gatorade (master slam!) and sleep. But enough mafia for today I will prob drunk magic Pls read case on lian | ||
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That's bad | ||
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On January 26 2015 11:46 GlowingBear wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I ROFL'D WITH THIS No because you've played imperial mafia very well and you were town. I actually disagree that you looked that townie in that game but you got shot night1 meh. hijole laptop I can type ok now I thik.. Lian played nye mafia. i was mafia then. I was differet from this. Pleas. be patient because this is IMPORTANTT!!! In that game I was unmotivated and had to make myself pos. Here I post from birthday diner. Why woul I do that if unmovitated. | ||
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He says he scumread me for being different than before but last game we played I was mafia. How is his reason making sense? And I even explain how I was different. Dont ignore this please. I will come back to it if people do until they stop. This is a good point. liancourt is just looking for excuse to scumread me with that read | ||
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On January 26 2015 12:11 GlowingBear wrote: This Gatorade was good, you can make sense out of things and type correctly very quickly huh? No. I type very slow now that I have laptop and can try to clean up post. Although I am also coming down I think | ||
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Can you please review my liancourt thing before you go | ||
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Anyway I am back and I ?hope? of sound mind and judgment. I feel like my liancourt read was still pretty coherent. Maybe not in execu-- no, definitely not in execution, but at least in the logic. Let me try to explain it with a little more clarity of mind. My play style was different from both games he's seen from me, and I was mafia in one and town in the other. At the very least he's obscuring the truth by citing Imperial as the inspiration for his read without making any mention of the fact that my play is different from the time he saw me play mafiasided. I feel like a townie would make mention of this and try to give the other player a fair shake instead of simply going "different from this town game therefore mafia!" while ignoring the equally-important "different from this mafia game therefore ???" I also kinda felt like it was a cheap shot trying this kind of obscurantist read while I wasn't quite at full mental capacity, but to be fair it's not his fault that I decided to try new alcohol right before he gave his reads. Idk maybe it's unfair to hold that to him, but I felt like it was more sinister than a misunderstanding or error. I'm gonna go reread but off the top of my head, I have the impression that Toad was town for a particular sequence of decisions: (1) intro post kickstarting discussion into (2) repeated attempts to question/probe other players for their positions while (3) demanding more scrutiny onto himself from other players. Mafia can emulate (1) just fine and regularly do (which is why I just called him a chill dude instead of something alignment-indicative), mafia have a harder time with (2) and especially with (3) - (2) because they struggle to get into a townie mindset and ask questions that make sense / are going somewhere (although it's not a huge struggle, it still requires effort, which is a harder threshold to achieve than you'd think), and (3) because they don't know whether or not they're actually being suspicious/not doing enough to be townread, and so daring people not to townread them so hard/so quickly can come off as tone-deaf with regard to how much a townie should suspect someone and backfire badly. (Imagine the sequence: "Why don't you suspect me?" "Why should I?" "...shouldn't you?" It would clearly indicate a guilty conscience on the part of the first speaker, which wouldn't automatically exist with a townie. Naturally it would never be that obvious, but you get the idea behind it.) None of this is to say that he strictly speaking couldn't do any of what he's done as mafia, but that I think it would be far more likely for him to do it as town. So he's town. I also feel like GlowingBear was townie but I don't remember why. Maybe I'll know when I reread. Robik is suspicious to me because I feel like he's not really been very genuine with his posts. I'll reread to see if I'm right about this, but I remember his post about why he voted for HTS, and his post against GB, and both of them seemed illegit. The HTS thing was probably a joke so eh, but he says "get rekt mafia scum" or whatever when arguing for a kill on GB and it's just like... no one says this. Not even Robik says this. C'mon man. I forgot Onegu even posted so we could kill him too. Palmar as well until he posts | ||
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Anybody here? I'm a little annoyed that everyone was playing while I was off somewhere else and now I'm here and no one else is. :/ | ||
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What are you doing this game to stop this from happening again, bearing in mind that (a) it's easier to do that in a smaller game and (b) a mislynch hurts more in a smaller game? Other updates: Half the Sky is clearly town. I feel that Robik and VisceraEyes are probably town for tilting, but I have no mafia priors on VE and one from close to a year ago on Robik, so it's difficult for me to falsify either feeling. Also anyone whining about drunk posts but not reading and commenting on the big post with reads that came after it is a donkey and should be ashamed. | ||
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That isn't to say his play is good, because it's not. It's underwhelming and he can do better, but I still kinda think he's town for it. Maybe I'm just being dumb and townreading him because he's amusing me though | ||
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On January 27 2015 02:21 Half the Sky wrote: I had gotten to page 4 of your filter and I got sidetracked admittedly. Which is why I am not updating my read on you quite yet. Now I really need to leave the office. well, leave then, don't wait on me lmao That was actually more toward Dr. Toadesstern, esteemed psychologist, who felt it was more important to do a detailed psychoanalysis of why someone would be drunkposting at a party (which I wasn't even at... I said dinner, you'd think someone trying way too hard to justify his prior suspicions would get the details right, nahmean?) than to address the serious post with reads in it and try to read me off of that. and tilting = getting mad/frustrated, it's a cards term | ||
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On January 27 2015 02:23 Palmar wrote: It means leaning a bit. He is comparing them to the tower of Pisa. This is valuable information. A+ | ||
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On January 27 2015 02:21 Palmar wrote: Why do you think that if another me got mad, that present me would also get mad? This confuses me. Sure let's unpack assumptions. I am assuming you are playing to win. You stated in a game in the recent past that you believe your d1 reads to be pretty good, particularly d1 town reads. Presuming you still believe this, and presuming you are town, it is curious to me that you are doing very little in the way of giving reads at the moment, because that runs the risk of one of your town reads getting killed. Even if you don't have town reads, you presumably will eventually get them because you want to win, and once you get them you presumably would want to make sure they don't die because you want to win. You are not doing this, so one of the assumptions above is wrong. Which is it? - You are playing to win - You believe your d1 reads to be pretty good, particularly d1 town reads - You are town | ||
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On January 27 2015 02:37 IAmRobik wrote: WTF are you doing? You literally just said you think Palmar is town and now you're grilling him. Palmar will play the game when he wants to play the game and if he doesn't want to play the game then he'll sub or we'll lynch him he asked me a question mang ![[image loading]](http://www.tigerdroppings.com/images/icons/shrug.gif){kind=icon} | ||
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On January 27 2015 02:36 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm still relatively fine with a GB lynch. I still don't like his "mind dumps" and he warned us he'd be doing them all game and now that he's been called out on it they've stopped. Like, it all just stinks of trying to APPEAR to be doing things. Robik going hard on GB too, and I think Robik probably town. Toad seems town to me, though I admit that my read on Toad is possibly bad. Huh, I forgot about that. Good observation. GB where did the mind dumps go? | ||
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Eden1892
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nah. Maybe on night 1, although IML is going to be an interesting twist on vca | ||
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