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Crap moment I quoted the wrong thing
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Never mind I can't find it. I thought someone said I was scum for only saying effort on GB, but then didn't say anything about liancourt.
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On January 27 2015 10:00 Eden1892 wrote:
did palmar or onegu give any original reads that made sense yet?
i think this is the bullshit heuristic i'm going to use for d1. shouts to my fave student who i told never to do this that one time~
All my reads make sense sorry you don't understand. 
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Fyi my friends for the night
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Eden that was uncalled for
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On January 27 2015 12:53 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? Yes. Liancourt's town play in Carol (he was the veteran in that game) was a PERFECT example of this. He was criticised for not being convincing, he pissed away 4 cycles yelling at people his reads, particularly to lynch Holyflare but people ignored him. He was right but failed to be convincing. very accurate representation except i wasnt vet i only breadcrumbed vet so that they wouldnt shoot me. Well I'm not afking this game and just leaving my vote on eden. I intend to convinve town he's scum unless there are better cases that can sway me, but atm I don't see any except maybe a policy lynch on palmar, but he said he's posting a read so I'll wait for that.
Jeezus this is the scummiest post in the thread. Then convince me, and why wait. Palmar needs to play or ded.
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On January 27 2015 13:03 Eden1892 wrote:
Oh my fucking god why are you not replying to anything happening right now. Holy shit.
Lol, chill don't get yourself mod killed.
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On January 27 2015 13:03 Eden1892 wrote:
Oh my fucking god why are you not replying to anything happening right now. Holy shit.
Lol, chill don't get yourself mod killed.
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On January 27 2015 13:17 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 04:22 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:15 Eden1892 wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:05 Eden1892 wrote:On January 26 2015 13:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Coming-down-Magic was fun but not for why you'd think it would be.
Anyway I am back and I ?hope? of sound mind and judgment.
I feel like my liancourt read was still pretty coherent. Maybe not in execu-- no, definitely not in execution, but at least in the logic. Let me try to explain it with a little more clarity of mind.
My play style was different from both games he's seen from me, and I was mafia in one and town in the other. At the very least he's obscuring the truth by citing Imperial as the inspiration for his read without making any mention of the fact that my play is different from the time he saw me play mafiasided. I feel like a townie would make mention of this and try to give the other player a fair shake instead of simply going "different from this town game therefore mafia!" while ignoring the equally-important "different from this mafia game therefore ???"
I also kinda felt like it was a cheap shot trying this kind of obscurantist read while I wasn't quite at full mental capacity, but to be fair it's not his fault that I decided to try new alcohol right before he gave his reads. Idk maybe it's unfair to hold that to him, but I felt like it was more sinister than a misunderstanding or error. I agree in that liancourt feels like he is picking his target and once he has picked that he's writing something about them (because he has to) rather than going with the flow. It should be the other way around, you find something weird and you talk about it no matter who it is, especially early on into d1. Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? hts says so, i've only played one game with him where he was town and i was mafia, and he locked onto me. but idk if he just does it in general or was zeroed in on me because i was obvious LOL my issue is less that he's zeroed in on me and refusing to budge or explain himself, because townies and mafia both tunnel on targets all the time. my issue is the reasoning he's using, which i feel like doesn't come from the position of someone who doesn't have the truth and is trying to figure it out, but instead from the position of someone who does have the truth and is trying to obscure it from the others though if he's tunneling he has confirmation bias by definition. If that's what he's doing it's likely he might ignore the parts you're blaming him for simply because he's certain you're mafia and looking at it only one way: Try to point out things that don't fit with your townmeta because you're mafia anyways Both what you said and what I said come down to the same thing I feel. It could very well be malicious just the way I think locking on to just one target could be something malicious because that way he doesn't have to make up stuff about a lot of people and can just focus on one guy. But if he does tunnel a lot that's a moot point. i actually looked up what confirmation bias was I loled. i do admit i have confirmation bias. In carol i had this, i ignored everything HF said because he was clearly obvious scum and anything he says will try to sway me otherwise. It's also the reason why I'm ignoring his posts right now, even more so because he is OMGUSing me. I'm calling him scum, he's calling me scum. I won't agree to him calling me scum, and he certainly won't agree with me calling him scum. It's like that time in voice mafia when everyone rolled scum and the 4 ppl were trying to convince each other that the other pair was scum and what not...it was like watching a brick wall talking to a brick wall. Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 10:05 liancourt wrote:
U know why ppl arent lynching hf? Because they are reading his posts and not ignoring the content.
All of hfs posts whether scum or town are all superb. They are alwsys pro town in both alignments.
The thing u have to realize is hf busses nearly everytime. And when he s town he generally gets scum most of the time.
The only scum tell he prolly has is how he reacts to certain posts. If his reaction is genuine fake calm angry etc. Town hf is more angry more frustrated. Scum hf is calm then tries to be angry on purpose and fakes reactions. Ppls pov will differ on whether hfs reactions are fake or not but imo hf has been faking a lot this game. Just like the vote deadline faking anger. He can be angry in both alignments yes but it looked so fake to me. U guys cant put a case on hf for content cos he busses teammates. His content will alwsys be good. U have to read him as how me and slam read him. Slam knows hf so well. I still believe slam is town but dont know why u didnt vote hf when u did last time....slam??? Why????
At gb i m from asia Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 10:13 liancourt wrote:
Gb what is wrong with u???? Are u reading his posts? Stop reading hfs posts. And think for yourself.
Why its korean standard time. Because i m in korea.
Ok yeah I'm happy to kill this guy with fire now... Why the hell are you talking about that?!
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On January 27 2015 13:17 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 04:22 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:15 Eden1892 wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:05 Eden1892 wrote:On January 26 2015 13:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Coming-down-Magic was fun but not for why you'd think it would be.
Anyway I am back and I ?hope? of sound mind and judgment.
I feel like my liancourt read was still pretty coherent. Maybe not in execu-- no, definitely not in execution, but at least in the logic. Let me try to explain it with a little more clarity of mind.
My play style was different from both games he's seen from me, and I was mafia in one and town in the other. At the very least he's obscuring the truth by citing Imperial as the inspiration for his read without making any mention of the fact that my play is different from the time he saw me play mafiasided. I feel like a townie would make mention of this and try to give the other player a fair shake instead of simply going "different from this town game therefore mafia!" while ignoring the equally-important "different from this mafia game therefore ???"
I also kinda felt like it was a cheap shot trying this kind of obscurantist read while I wasn't quite at full mental capacity, but to be fair it's not his fault that I decided to try new alcohol right before he gave his reads. Idk maybe it's unfair to hold that to him, but I felt like it was more sinister than a misunderstanding or error. I agree in that liancourt feels like he is picking his target and once he has picked that he's writing something about them (because he has to) rather than going with the flow. It should be the other way around, you find something weird and you talk about it no matter who it is, especially early on into d1. Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? hts says so, i've only played one game with him where he was town and i was mafia, and he locked onto me. but idk if he just does it in general or was zeroed in on me because i was obvious LOL my issue is less that he's zeroed in on me and refusing to budge or explain himself, because townies and mafia both tunnel on targets all the time. my issue is the reasoning he's using, which i feel like doesn't come from the position of someone who doesn't have the truth and is trying to figure it out, but instead from the position of someone who does have the truth and is trying to obscure it from the others though if he's tunneling he has confirmation bias by definition. If that's what he's doing it's likely he might ignore the parts you're blaming him for simply because he's certain you're mafia and looking at it only one way: Try to point out things that don't fit with your townmeta because you're mafia anyways Both what you said and what I said come down to the same thing I feel. It could very well be malicious just the way I think locking on to just one target could be something malicious because that way he doesn't have to make up stuff about a lot of people and can just focus on one guy. But if he does tunnel a lot that's a moot point. i actually looked up what confirmation bias was I loled. i do admit i have confirmation bias. In carol i had this, i ignored everything HF said because he was clearly obvious scum and anything he says will try to sway me otherwise. It's also the reason why I'm ignoring his posts right now, even more so because he is OMGUSing me. I'm calling him scum, he's calling me scum. I won't agree to him calling me scum, and he certainly won't agree with me calling him scum. It's like that time in voice mafia when everyone rolled scum and the 4 ppl were trying to convince each other that the other pair was scum and what not...it was like watching a brick wall talking to a brick wall. Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 10:05 liancourt wrote:
U know why ppl arent lynching hf? Because they are reading his posts and not ignoring the content.
All of hfs posts whether scum or town are all superb. They are alwsys pro town in both alignments.
The thing u have to realize is hf busses nearly everytime. And when he s town he generally gets scum most of the time.
The only scum tell he prolly has is how he reacts to certain posts. If his reaction is genuine fake calm angry etc. Town hf is more angry more frustrated. Scum hf is calm then tries to be angry on purpose and fakes reactions. Ppls pov will differ on whether hfs reactions are fake or not but imo hf has been faking a lot this game. Just like the vote deadline faking anger. He can be angry in both alignments yes but it looked so fake to me. U guys cant put a case on hf for content cos he busses teammates. His content will alwsys be good. U have to read him as how me and slam read him. Slam knows hf so well. I still believe slam is town but dont know why u didnt vote hf when u did last time....slam??? Why????
At gb i m from asia Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 10:13 liancourt wrote:
Gb what is wrong with u???? Are u reading his posts? Stop reading hfs posts. And think for yourself.
Why its korean standard time. Because i m in korea.
There is no way this guy is town, this post says absolutely nothing worthwhile.
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Lol nice Eden, his post are saying nothing. The post I pointed out is the scummiest post in the thread, and you vote me <3
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On January 27 2015 12:57 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 12:53 liancourt wrote:On January 27 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? Yes. Liancourt's town play in Carol (he was the veteran in that game) was a PERFECT example of this. He was criticised for not being convincing, he pissed away 4 cycles yelling at people his reads, particularly to lynch Holyflare but people ignored him. He was right but failed to be convincing. very accurate representation except i wasnt vet i only breadcrumbed vet so that they wouldnt shoot me. Well I'm not afking this game and just leaving my vote on eden. I intend to convinve town he's scum unless there are better cases that can sway me, but atm I don't see any except maybe a policy lynch on palmar, but he said he's posting a read so I'll wait for that. Jeezus this is the scummiest post in the thread. Then convince me, and why wait. Palmar needs to play or ded.
Here you go lian my scum read on you. First was just a pressure vote, but now here is my reason
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On January 27 2015 14:20 Eden1892 wrote:
townies do stupid shit and say nothing useful in their posts all the time
He just came in. Had your obnoxious post that you quoted 20 times. Had posts from hts and a vote from me. And he comes in and is like yup you scum and I'm never going to listen to you. When have you ever seen town do that.
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On January 27 2015 14:23 liancourt wrote:
@eden
Didn't I say I was co mod for imperial and you played a great d1 in that game. IMO you aren't playing like that in this game. I'm comparing your town to this game. And you aren't playing like town.
In new years where u were scum the game state was much different and the thread itself was stale most of the time. Comparing filter sizes seems irrelevant. The game state currently is much more active in this game thus naturally has more posts. I don't think the argument of comparing filter sizes is valid in your defense.
I welcome the change in perspective eden. Why do you think onegu is scum? I think he's scum because he just sheeped you after coming into the thread. He doesn't really have any original reads. He posted a list post of well townies and nulls. I have no idea on his meta so if someone can enlighten me that'd be great.
Lol,when did I sheep him. and once you get called out for your confirmation bias post you are now willing to listen to Eden lol...
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On January 27 2015 14:25 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:17 Onegu wrote:On January 27 2015 12:57 Onegu wrote:On January 27 2015 12:53 liancourt wrote:On January 27 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? Yes. Liancourt's town play in Carol (he was the veteran in that game) was a PERFECT example of this. He was criticised for not being convincing, he pissed away 4 cycles yelling at people his reads, particularly to lynch Holyflare but people ignored him. He was right but failed to be convincing. very accurate representation except i wasnt vet i only breadcrumbed vet so that they wouldnt shoot me. Well I'm not afking this game and just leaving my vote on eden. I intend to convinve town he's scum unless there are better cases that can sway me, but atm I don't see any except maybe a policy lynch on palmar, but he said he's posting a read so I'll wait for that. Jeezus this is the scummiest post in the thread. Then convince me, and why wait. Palmar needs to play or ded. Here you go lian my scum read on you. First was just a pressure vote, but now here is my reason care to enlighten town why this post is scummy?
Sure because you come in here check random things post something that has no revalance and basicly omgus Eden with no back up, but then want a policy lynch. You then follow up this post with another post that is completely irrelevant, and no bearing on this game. Then I call you out on it and you switch your tune.
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On January 27 2015 14:31 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 13:22 Onegu wrote:On January 27 2015 13:17 liancourt wrote:On January 27 2015 04:22 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:15 Eden1892 wrote:On January 27 2015 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 04:05 Eden1892 wrote:On January 26 2015 13:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Coming-down-Magic was fun but not for why you'd think it would be.
Anyway I am back and I ?hope? of sound mind and judgment.
I feel like my liancourt read was still pretty coherent. Maybe not in execu-- no, definitely not in execution, but at least in the logic. Let me try to explain it with a little more clarity of mind.
My play style was different from both games he's seen from me, and I was mafia in one and town in the other. At the very least he's obscuring the truth by citing Imperial as the inspiration for his read without making any mention of the fact that my play is different from the time he saw me play mafiasided. I feel like a townie would make mention of this and try to give the other player a fair shake instead of simply going "different from this town game therefore mafia!" while ignoring the equally-important "different from this mafia game therefore ???"
I also kinda felt like it was a cheap shot trying this kind of obscurantist read while I wasn't quite at full mental capacity, but to be fair it's not his fault that I decided to try new alcohol right before he gave his reads. Idk maybe it's unfair to hold that to him, but I felt like it was more sinister than a misunderstanding or error. I agree in that liancourt feels like he is picking his target and once he has picked that he's writing something about them (because he has to) rather than going with the flow. It should be the other way around, you find something weird and you talk about it no matter who it is, especially early on into d1. Is he usually the kind of guy that locks on his target and just goes at it? hts says so, i've only played one game with him where he was town and i was mafia, and he locked onto me. but idk if he just does it in general or was zeroed in on me because i was obvious LOL my issue is less that he's zeroed in on me and refusing to budge or explain himself, because townies and mafia both tunnel on targets all the time. my issue is the reasoning he's using, which i feel like doesn't come from the position of someone who doesn't have the truth and is trying to figure it out, but instead from the position of someone who does have the truth and is trying to obscure it from the others though if he's tunneling he has confirmation bias by definition. If that's what he's doing it's likely he might ignore the parts you're blaming him for simply because he's certain you're mafia and looking at it only one way: Try to point out things that don't fit with your townmeta because you're mafia anyways Both what you said and what I said come down to the same thing I feel. It could very well be malicious just the way I think locking on to just one target could be something malicious because that way he doesn't have to make up stuff about a lot of people and can just focus on one guy. But if he does tunnel a lot that's a moot point. i actually looked up what confirmation bias was I loled. i do admit i have confirmation bias. In carol i had this, i ignored everything HF said because he was clearly obvious scum and anything he says will try to sway me otherwise. It's also the reason why I'm ignoring his posts right now, even more so because he is OMGUSing me. I'm calling him scum, he's calling me scum. I won't agree to him calling me scum, and he certainly won't agree with me calling him scum. It's like that time in voice mafia when everyone rolled scum and the 4 ppl were trying to convince each other that the other pair was scum and what not...it was like watching a brick wall talking to a brick wall. On December 20 2014 10:05 liancourt wrote:
U know why ppl arent lynching hf? Because they are reading his posts and not ignoring the content.
All of hfs posts whether scum or town are all superb. They are alwsys pro town in both alignments.
The thing u have to realize is hf busses nearly everytime. And when he s town he generally gets scum most of the time.
The only scum tell he prolly has is how he reacts to certain posts. If his reaction is genuine fake calm angry etc. Town hf is more angry more frustrated. Scum hf is calm then tries to be angry on purpose and fakes reactions. Ppls pov will differ on whether hfs reactions are fake or not but imo hf has been faking a lot this game. Just like the vote deadline faking anger. He can be angry in both alignments yes but it looked so fake to me. U guys cant put a case on hf for content cos he busses teammates. His content will alwsys be good. U have to read him as how me and slam read him. Slam knows hf so well. I still believe slam is town but dont know why u didnt vote hf when u did last time....slam??? Why????
At gb i m from asia On December 20 2014 10:13 liancourt wrote:
Gb what is wrong with u???? Are u reading his posts? Stop reading hfs posts. And think for yourself.
Why its korean standard time. Because i m in korea. Ok yeah I'm happy to kill this guy with fire now... Why the hell are you talking about that?! well you clearly read this post where I'm explaining why I'm ignoring eden and yet you post this Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:23 Onegu wrote:On January 27 2015 14:20 Eden1892 wrote:
townies do stupid shit and say nothing useful in their posts all the time He just came in. Had your obnoxious post that you quoted 20 times. Had posts from hts and a vote from me. And he comes in and is like yup you scum and I'm never going to listen to you. When have you ever seen town do that. I was town in carol and i did this to scum hf, but now I think you're even more scum than he is.
Huh you were town and did what I am doing to you to HF and you were town and he was scum? Then how in the hell are you scum reading me?
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Or you ignored HF as town? My head hurts
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Eden how are you not seeing this, if you have meta together why would antagonize you like this as town, it's only a scum strat to piss you off so much...
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