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On January 21 2015 22:21 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 22:10 Koshi wrote:
Can you please impress me with your wisdom. I did not play in Imperial but was a shadow for the scum. My following of the game fell off towards late game, but at the end, I just remember Vivax posting a little more frantically as he was trying to figure out the game towards the end. He was probably on the wrong track since, in the post-game I recall Artanis trying to correct him on how he could play better.
Oh. I wasn't talking about imperial. I wanted to hear you talk about this game.
From where I am standing you are asking some minor questions to people without any follow up and without any cause. Just asking random questions that look like scumhunting.
Do I have the wrong impression? And if I have the wrong impression. What are you doing?
I am talking about things like this:
On January 20 2015 22:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Lian townread Vivax as well....did he even read what Vivax presented?
This is the only thing I find in your filter that somewhat looks like you trying to figure out lian his alignment. After that you just got lian as "possible scum".
But the problem I have with this line of yours is that you are not convincing me why lian is scum.
Can you explain this to somebody who wasn't around? Why does it make Lian scum because he didn't read something Vivax wrote but called him town?
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On January 21 2015 22:14 Half the Sky wrote:
In any instance, I'm not convinced Vivax should go today. My issue with Lian is he's done absolutely nothing, when last game I played with him he was pretty vocal.
No kidding? No one but oats who didnt see vivaxs last game is suggesting this. Hes the top town in the game
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On January 21 2015 22:31 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 22:02 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 21 2015 21:59 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody please explain to me why Oats is voting Vivax under the motto "Vivax does crazy shit as scum" because he remembers some game Vivax played 500 years ago. While Oats ignored the recent 250436 games in which Vivax is batshit crazy as town and pretty calculated as scum. Its the other way around. Vivax is not town because he's crazy. Ya thats what I thought for a big chunk of imperial too.
Ohhhhh you are the guy that was so full off himself D5-D6 that he found all the scum. I remember.
You are less confident this game  . And people are voting you.
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On January 21 2015 22:33 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 22:31 sicklucker wrote:On January 21 2015 22:02 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 21 2015 21:59 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody please explain to me why Oats is voting Vivax under the motto "Vivax does crazy shit as scum" because he remembers some game Vivax played 500 years ago. While Oats ignored the recent 250436 games in which Vivax is batshit crazy as town and pretty calculated as scum. Its the other way around. Vivax is not town because he's crazy. Ya thats what I thought for a big chunk of imperial too. Ohhhhh you are the guy that was so full off himself D5-D6 that he found all the scum. I remember. You are less confident this game . And people are voting you.
I failed two games inarow. That does something to a man. Im kind of still confident tho
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Like kill hts with me. Ive scum coached her im pretty confident.
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On January 21 2015 22:39 sicklucker wrote:
Like kill hts with me. Ive scum coached her im pretty confident.
I like how you instantly back that confidence up with a vote.
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Koshi
Theres 6 votes against me ill kill 80% of the game to save myself
Like I need you to save me the town is sheeple. My lynch order is hts first then lian. But beggars cant be choosers.
##vote half the sky
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Koshi I made a pretty good case on her that marv agreed with check it out.
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Yeah. Nice catch if that is her scum meta. Kelsier his case is also pretty legit.
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Vote Damdred, easy mafia. He posted 10 times since he left this thread in student mafia 5 hours later and couldn't be fucked to post here and he's incredibly absent and doesn't care about this game and is demotivated because he rolled mafia again
He applied that to marv but it applies equally to him
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On January 21 2015 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
Vote Damdred, easy mafia. He posted 10 times since he left this thread in student mafia 5 hours later and couldn't be fucked to post here and he's incredibly absent and doesn't care about this game and is demotivated because he rolled mafia again
He applied that to marv but it applies equally to him
I like how HF is pushing a malicious agenda here:
Starts with a fact:
"He posted 10 times since he left this thread in student mafia 5 hours later"
Follows up with something that is likely possible:
"couldn't be fucked to post here"
Follows that up with something that is not true, Damdred has 3-4 pages of filter, clicking on his filter in the other game it is the same ratio per day:
"he's incredibly absent"
Follows up with his own (biased?) agenda:
"is demotivated because he rolled mafia again"
So how mafia are you Holyflare?
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Going to the doctor in 45 minutes, taking a shower before then and reading my anatomy 2 book quickly to figure out of it isn't just a bronchitis.
Brb in....3-4 hours?
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On January 21 2015 22:31 Koshi wrote:From where I am standing you are asking some minor questions to people without any follow up and without any cause. Just asking random questions that look like scumhunting. Do I have the wrong impression? And if I have the wrong impression. What are you doing? I am talking about things like this: Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 22:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Lian townread Vivax as well....did he even read what Vivax presented? This is the only thing I find in your filter that somewhat looks like you trying to figure out lian his alignment. After that you just got lian as "possible scum". But the problem I have with this line of yours is that you are not convincing me why lian is scum. Can you explain this to somebody who wasn't around? Why does it make Lian scum because he didn't read something Vivax wrote but called him town?
Koshi, I misunderstood. I've been reading and re-reading filters, and such, and trying to poke holes where I can find them. I'm having a tough time with some of the reads, admittedly.
My argument that I had on Lian was not just the Vivax read, it was other reads. He mentioned SL, on the basis of a policy lynch. He mentioned Geript as scum for replacing out, which to me seemed random at best and he didn't explain Geript's gameplay, nor was there anything in Geripts filter that indicated that. Alakaslam and I questioned him on that last night, and he was like "you took that seriously?" Both of us had. And finally as I said before, when pressed as to why he's doing nothing, he explained more or less along the lines of "this is the meta I want to play".
Regarding the recent point on my scum meta, I was a lot more active as scum.
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After imperial the entire scum team including dandred said they really hope they dont roll mafia. It was a really long and dragged out game so I totally believe that (700 pages).
Hts, lian, dandred I feel like two are always scum we cant go wrong.
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Filter size means nothing when it's 4, he's not actively solving the game, he returns and is out of the loop like I said previously. He only comments on irrelevant crap most of the time.
If you scum read hts for asking shit questions and not pushing anything damdred is the same. This is not the towny i voted for most improved player.
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On January 21 2015 23:12 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 22:31 Koshi wrote:From where I am standing you are asking some minor questions to people without any follow up and without any cause. Just asking random questions that look like scumhunting. Do I have the wrong impression? And if I have the wrong impression. What are you doing? I am talking about things like this: On January 20 2015 22:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Lian townread Vivax as well....did he even read what Vivax presented? This is the only thing I find in your filter that somewhat looks like you trying to figure out lian his alignment. After that you just got lian as "possible scum". But the problem I have with this line of yours is that you are not convincing me why lian is scum. Can you explain this to somebody who wasn't around? Why does it make Lian scum because he didn't read something Vivax wrote but called him town? Koshi, I misunderstood. I've been reading and re-reading filters, and such, and trying to poke holes where I can find them. I'm having a tough time with some of the reads, admittedly. My argument that I had on Lian was not just the Vivax read, it was other reads. He mentioned SL, on the basis of a policy lynch. He mentioned Geript as scum for replacing out, which to me seemed random at best and he didn't explain Geript's gameplay, nor was there anything in Geripts filter that indicated that. Alakaslam and I questioned him on that last night, and he was like "you took that seriously?" Both of us had. And finally as I said before, when pressed as to why he's doing nothing, he explained more or less along the lines of "this is the meta I want to play". Regarding the recent point on my scum meta, I was a lot more active as scum.
Unless you are more active as mafia and less active as town that point is m00t.
So you misunderstood that whole thing you initially read lian scum for? That makes me sad.
I'm having a tough time with some of the reads, admittedly.
Explain this to me. Which reads? Why? etc etc. Most people are trowing scumteams around atm.
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On January 21 2015 23:17 Koshi wrote:
So you misunderstood that whole thing you initially read lian scum for? That makes me sad.
No, I misunderstood that you were asking me about this game and not Imperial.
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On January 21 2015 23:14 Holyflare wrote:
Filter size means nothing when it's 4, he's not actively solving the game, he returns and is out of the loop like I said previously. He only comments on irrelevant crap most of the time.
If you scum read hts for asking shit questions and not pushing anything damdred is the same. This is not the towny i voted for most improved player.
Except for the fact that there are 2 really good cases on HTS. Why are you soft pushing this Damdred lynch? Explain to me why Damdred has a bigger chance to flip mafia over HTS? The good cases in this thread disagree with you.
Why can't Damdred be a townie that is overwhelmed by playing 2 games at once and can't get into the flow of this game? There are posts in Damdred his filter that support this possibility. Happened to me when I tried to play 2 games at the same time. That's why I never do it anymore.
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On January 21 2015 23:20 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 23:17 Koshi wrote:
So you misunderstood that whole thing you initially read lian scum for? That makes me sad. No, I misunderstood that you were asking me about this game and not Imperial.
Ahyeah, that was my mistake.
Can you then explain to me why lian is mafia for saying Vivax is town while not reading what Vivax wrote. I don't get that point at all.
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Koshi, on the reads, I generally look for people trying to solve the game, I look for indicators that things might be taken out of context, etc. (HF asked me my scum reads and I gave them to him.) Some of the confusion comes from meta too.
One example I cited earlier was VA for instance, in the last game I voted him because he wasn't solving the game, and he was lynched (as town) out of the game. The defence for him was that his D1 meta, he will not do work D1. This game, it's the same issue. Is he hiding behind his D1 meta, who's to know?
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