[M][N]The Void Mafia - Page 116

On January 24 2015 03:23 Half the Sky wrote:
Back in thread. Koshi, continuing onto Wile's filter.

First sign of trouble/scumlike behaviour - he's saying push Sicklucker (page 6 of filter) and then he suggests a list of people on a scum basis that does NOT include Sicklucker though he thinks it's debatable on him getting lynched. (Note that he says VA is policy, so everyone else he's scumreading)





Now, from what I can see he's made no mention of myself/Lian/Oats/Damdred prior to page six of his filter.

On page 7, HF pushes me, and then Wile says this:



So Wile puts me on a scumlist and wants HF to explain why I'm mafia. I would expect this if Wile is scumreading HF, but from the quoted on page 6, he's not. HF wasn't in his scumlist.

Post-lynch, it would have gone a long way to see VCA from him, but he didn't do this.

This guy could very possibly be the scum on the D1 Sicklucker wagon if there is one.

On January 23 2015 02:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Regarding Oats,



To be honest, I don't like Oats' defence here at all. Yes, #1 is a point because HF voted you on it, though he later moved elsewhere.
On #6, whether it's general or not, it's still a scumlike trait. Just because everyone is doing it, as you suggest, doesn't mean that you are less scum.

On #3, this is what I tried to point out with his throwing names around.

Oats, you threw Bats' name out randomly.



I questioned you on that. First time you ever brought up his name. You didn't respond. You threw his name on a list later on when Vivax asked you. You seemed to pick it up somewhat after your entrance, but when you threw Bats' name out like that, that's why I scumread you.

On January 24 2015 05:11 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm out for date night. Brutal week at work calls for wine, chocolate fondue and the like. Huzzah!

So far, Damdred is looking mostly okay through D1 lynch, though I find his VCA confusing, and I'm going to look into that further when I return. I'm also trying to sort out where his read of Lian changed before he started pushing Slam and Oats, because I thought he was scumreading Lian (and I'd scumread him for that prior to pushing Slam and Oats).

Damdred is showing a bit of apathy in this game. However, I am cohosting the other game he is in. He is showing some apathy in that game too. I am assuming maybe he's just bored in general, so I am considering this attitude for now, NAI.

JAT is looking bad to me as it stands, disregarding meta of course as I've never played with him.

If another veteran can elaborate on how a mafia JAT plays, I'd appreciate it.

And of course, I need to take yet another look at Sicklucker...

On January 23 2015 23:54 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm here. I would love to be posting a bit more in the mornings EU time, but work this week has been batshit insane.

That said, seeing as Holyflare is dead, flipped VT, it looks like I need to reassess what is happening in this game.

I'm starting to feel that at least 1, MAYBE 2 mafia are sitting back and letting us sort each other out to our detriment. I say this based on precedence.

In Student Mafia IV, Meat was the lurker. In Carol, it was Oats. In Newbie LX, Gumdrop did jack all and was eventually replaced.

Holyflare's death gives credence that there's one lurker in this bunch this game. Someone is just content to sit it out whilst we're all trying to sort it out. Certainly not the entire team, but definitely one.

I realise I've been criticised looking at lurkers but now thinking more, some of this does need examined more closely.

I see Slam's been brought up by a few. Though I had tried to avoid reading Slam before as he's been hard to read, Koshi has since brought this up on reading Slam:



I saw the exchange where Koshi did push him after he voted. After that exchange I run into this.



Which lends some credence to the sitting back theory. As of late three more posts in the thread, but no thoughts.

(Sidenote: Koshi, if you are here, or someone, could you please explain to me what Chupazi is? Is this significant, or him mentioning Chupazi significant, to reading him?)

VayneAuthority - Did not want to scumread him based on D1 meta. Wasted his vote. Now we're in D2 and he is scumreading Slam and Bats, but no idea why he's doing so.

Now I see that he's sheeped the vote on me. Blending in?



If you feel so strong on Bats, where is that case on Bats?

Speaking of Bats, he'd fall into the lurker category as well, however, I think he's a longshot to be scum based on his pushing SL. I don't know his scum meta either.

Oatsmaster, again, is the one I'm feeling most strongly on. Not as lurkish/inactive as the others

Vivax and I had called him out on separate points, which he has yet to answer to. I think he accused Vivax of misreading, but I cannot see where this was resolved.

In my case, he was throwing out names, and again, his defence to Damdred's case was poor.



I will discuss the more active folks in a separate post.