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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 23 2015 14:28 GMT
#2041
I've been running late all day but here I am.

HF kill is not surprising as he was the person who was pushing the most things at EoD, but I don't want to go to far down the rabbit hole but the kill could be made to frame hts who will probably be lynched anyway but I think we need to look elsewhere.

Slam is being way to serious today, and in the game in general. I think he should be the lynch today just so we have more time for hts to actually do things and I really hate killing into the wifom nk.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 23 2015 14:39 GMT
#2042
Unbanned woot.

Kill hts today
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 23 2015 14:47 GMT
#2043
and if hts is town kel/
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 23 2015 14:47 GMT
#2044
On January 23 2015 23:47 Damdred wrote:
and if hts is town kel/

THIS TIMES 1 MILLION
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 23 2015 14:47 GMT
#2045
Think further monkeys.
I had a good night of sleep.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 14:54 GMT
#2046
I'm here. I would love to be posting a bit more in the mornings EU time, but work this week has been batshit insane.

That said, seeing as Holyflare is dead, flipped VT, it looks like I need to reassess what is happening in this game.

I'm starting to feel that at least 1, MAYBE 2 mafia are sitting back and letting us sort each other out to our detriment. I say this based on precedence.

In Student Mafia IV, Meat was the lurker. In Carol, it was Oats. In Newbie LX, Gumdrop did jack all and was eventually replaced.

Holyflare's death gives credence that there's one lurker in this bunch this game. Someone is just content to sit it out whilst we're all trying to sort it out. Certainly not the entire team, but definitely one.

I realise I've been criticised looking at lurkers but now thinking more, some of this does need examined more closely.

I see Slam's been brought up by a few. Though I had tried to avoid reading Slam before as he's been hard to read, Koshi has since brought this up on reading Slam:

On January 21 2015 19:17 Koshi wrote:
Chupazi reading goes like this:
1) Does he makes himself readable. If No, ignore the Chupazi. If yes, go to step 2.
2) Does his filter make him confirmed town because it is filled with happy eagerness. If yes, ignore the Chupazi. If No, go to step 3.
3) Does the Chupazi want to die when pressured to advance town forward. If yes, ignore the Chupazi. If No, FUCKING CONSIDER THE CHUPAZI TO BE SCUM.


So I consider the Chupazi to be scum. The Chupazi got thread sentiment going in his favor. It's odd. But maybe he is town. Who knows. Just don't tell me he can't be lynched D1 because you are wrong.


I saw the exchange where Koshi did push him after he voted. After that exchange I run into this.

On January 21 2015 14:19 Alakaslam wrote:
I mean I will be able to help with PoE but ultimately I am not the best one to be pushing a lynch hey


Which lends some credence to the sitting back theory. As of late three more posts in the thread, but no thoughts.

(Sidenote: Koshi, if you are here, or someone, could you please explain to me what Chupazi is? Is this significant, or him mentioning Chupazi significant, to reading him?)

VayneAuthority - Did not want to scumread him based on D1 meta. Wasted his vote. Now we're in D2 and he is scumreading Slam and Bats, but no idea why he's doing so.

Now I see that he's sheeped the vote on me. Blending in?

On January 23 2015 09:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
slam/bats/dunno yet. I shall write something on bats later tonight, slam does not require any thought as its useless. just know that its important to lynch him and its likely hes scum.


If you feel so strong on Bats, where is that case on Bats?

Speaking of Bats, he'd fall into the lurker category as well, however, I think he's a longshot to be scum based on his pushing SL. I don't know his scum meta either.

Oatsmaster, again, is the one I'm feeling most strongly on. Not as lurkish/inactive as the others

Vivax and I had called him out on separate points, which he has yet to answer to. I think he accused Vivax of misreading, but I cannot see where this was resolved.

In my case, he was throwing out names, and again, his defence to Damdred's case was poor.

On January 23 2015 02:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Regarding Oats,

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 22 2015 06:16 Damdred wrote:
we are lynching Oats today, I will put this in bullet points so that people can follow along

* Oats starts the game off by saying something is bad without any explanation and leaving the game.
* He comes back and defends his view which some agree with and some don't and never draws conclusions from this
* He never explains why he wants to lynch anyone or why he scum reads people
* During fights or arguments he adds fuel to the fire in SLs case he makes it very clear that he thinks SL is lying and heaps more pressure on him.
* Is not voting a scum read but came back said a case on him was bad put his vote down on the person who made the case said it was bad and left without explanation
* is not being controversial but more side lines and flying under the radar, is not scum hunting

Oats is scum vote for him.

1. Thats not a point
2. That doesnt make me scum at all?!? It was never meant as a discussion point
3. Thats not true.
4. I have no idea what you are smoking cause thats also not true
5. Clearly I think you are scum and the second part of that is a non point.
6. This is so general that you could apply it to half the people in the game, so clearly that doesnt make me scum either.


To be honest, I don't like Oats' defence here at all. Yes, #1 is a point because HF voted you on it, though he later moved elsewhere.
On #6, whether it's general or not, it's still a scumlike trait. Just because everyone is doing it, as you suggest, doesn't mean that you are less scum.

On #3, this is what I tried to point out with his throwing names around.

Oats, you threw Bats' name out randomly.

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 21 2015 09:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey lets lynch bats.


First time I think you've mentioned him. Why?


I questioned you on that. First time you ever brought up his name. You didn't respond. You threw his name on a list later on when Vivax asked you. You seemed to pick it up somewhat after your entrance, but when you threw Bats' name out like that, that's why I scumread you.



I will discuss the more active folks in a separate post.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 23 2015 14:55 GMT
#2047
Chupazis are vultures that vomit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 14:55 GMT
#2048
EBWOP - I know it's buried in there, but for Koshi or another veteran, please explain...

(Sidenote: Koshi, if you are here, or someone, could you please explain to me what Chupazi is? Is this significant, or him mentioning Chupazi significant, to reading him?)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 14:56 GMT
#2049
On January 23 2015 23:55 Koshi wrote:
Chupazis are vultures that vomit.


So this has nothing to do with his gameplay or someone he's trying to emulate?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 23 2015 14:57 GMT
#2050
On January 23 2015 23:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 23:55 Koshi wrote:
Chupazis are vultures that vomit.


So this has nothing to do with his gameplay or someone he's trying to emulate?

Slam posts in the way of the Chupazi.
I had a good night of sleep.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 14:58 GMT
#2051
I'll take that as a no, unless someone says otherwise. Moving on.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 14:58 GMT
#2052
On January 23 2015 23:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 23:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 23 2015 23:55 Koshi wrote:
Chupazis are vultures that vomit.


So this has nothing to do with his gameplay or someone he's trying to emulate?

Slam posts in the way of the Chupazi.


"in the way of the Chupazi".....so in spurts then, I take it. Alright. Cheers for the clarification.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 23 2015 14:59 GMT
#2053
Nobody really get's the way of the Chupazi except the Chupazi himself.
I had a good night of sleep.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 23 2015 15:03 GMT
#2054
I already gave you my 3 scum so that question is stupid
Zerg for Life
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 15:12 GMT
#2055
Also since I didn't explicitly say it in the above, I would definitely say at this point leaning scum on both Slam and VA based on the points presented. Leaning town on Bats. Scum on Oats.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 23 2015 15:32 GMT
#2056
I'd lynch va aswell
Zerg for Life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 23 2015 15:38 GMT
#2057
On January 24 2015 00:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Also since I didn't explicitly say it in the above, I would definitely say at this point leaning scum on both Slam and VA based on the points presented. Leaning town on Bats. Scum on Oats.


I don't think all three scum are lurkers, especially when va and oats have a tendency to lurk as either alignment. slam, va and oats are like the easiest targets ever too and they probably won't defend themselves. It might go a long way for you to get different reads.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 23 2015 15:40 GMT
#2058
HTS can you make me a good case on why Wile is town? It would help me.
I had a good night of sleep.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 23 2015 15:41 GMT
#2059
Case for va
- wastes his vote and afk's
- he says he doesn't vote hts because the cases on her were "meta based" this isn't even true.
- if it were true then why does.he vote slam because the only case you can make.on him at the moment is meta based.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 23 2015 15:44 GMT
#2060
Plus he is on a lot of 3 lists but no one wants to vote him..scum usually put a buddy on their list so that too.
Zerg for Life
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