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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 22 2015 23:11 GMT
#1981
Should have realized HF was town from the start, cause when we're both town he's a dick to me. When he's scum and I'm town he buddies me up like crazy, like in Carol. When we're both mafia we're pretty decent but he's the guy who carries us to victory.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 22 2015 23:20 GMT
#1982
On January 22 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Final Vote Count
sicklucker (3): liancourt, Holyflare, marvellosity, batsnacks, Half the Sky, Vivax, marvellosity, Wile E. Coyote
Liancourt (4): Koshi, sicklucker, Half the Sky, Vivax, sicklucker
Oatsmaster (1): Holyflare, Damdred, Half the Sky
Vivax (0): marvellosity marvellosity, Oatsmaster
Alakaslam (1): Koshi, VayneAuthority
Half the Sky (2): marvellosity, sicklucker, KelsierSC, sicklucker, Holyflare
Marvellosity (0): Vivax, Wile E. Coyote, sicklucker
KelsierSC (0): batsnacks
Damdred (1): Holyflare, Oatsmaster

Not voted (1): Alakaslam
liancourt was pulled into the void.
The Void's pull is growing stronger. remains.



VA in cursive font cause he's an idiot, but probably a town idiot.

Don't mind me on the liancourt wagon as I'm a sick guy who was on prescribed drugs and got fooled by sheeping Koshi.

People on SL are town heroes. People on HTS are town heroes.

Oats probably just the usual dumb town Oats are this point, might have to check later.

Now, we need to figure out what all those marv votes mean. Cause they mean he was bussing on two instances (SL and HTS) before replacing out.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 22 2015 23:33 GMT
#1983
On January 23 2015 08:03 Vivax wrote:
Why would you ever lynch Wile, he's being a town hero.

You're rocketing up the scum charts dear


Since when is talking about something I do as either alignment for 20 hours a town hero
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 22 2015 23:34 GMT
#1984
We actually might need to 're evaluate hts today.... kill could be to frame her and make it so we carry out hf last will.

Lets see what hts gives us today and we go from there
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 22 2015 23:35 GMT
#1985
How are me and hts ever on the same team. Koshi was also pretty much confirmed town by marv. Plus he wants to kill the right people
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 22 2015 23:39 GMT
#1986
##vote half the sky
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 00:06 GMT
#1987
I'd like to see a second kill before I jump on the wifom truck, slam as mafia is much more convincing and important given the state of the game

##vote: alakaslam
I come in for the scraps
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 23 2015 00:15 GMT
#1988
On January 20 2015 23:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 22:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 22:43 Half the Sky wrote:
Kels, not sure if you're still in thread, but you said earlier you wanted to talk on Lian. Your thoughts on him?


yeh I'm here, I posted my thoughts on him a bit earlier I think

mainly SL said he didn't know why lian was getting a free pass so I was inviting SL to give his thoughts.

Note how you invited sl to interact with you re: lian, and he sidestepped and chose not to.


On January 20 2015 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
Kelsier, note the below quote came *after* I dropped my wall of text on Vivax:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 21:38 sicklucker wrote:
Marv the pressure vote is doing what I want it to so no your not getting unvoted yet. I feel like your leaning more town but all your doing is omgusing a very obvious town so no I cant unjustifie unvoting you yet.
When I unvote you its when im sure your town and never have to worry about you.

I dont like how lians getting a free pass here when hes trying to policy lynch a player better then kush.
I cant remember.

into:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 22:04 sicklucker wrote:
Well im happy to never vote marv again hees the towniest town that ever town.

Like no way he trys this hard as scum ever ill clear him on this alone.

3 games straight mafia. Game 1 and two palmer gets him to concede. Game 3 600 FREAKIN PAGES

Does this look like a natural progression to you?


On January 20 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
I'm pretty confident on one mafia, but you're gonna have to wait for those pearls of wisdom until tomorrow.

##Vote: sicklucker

This was it. HF is a lamo.

P.S. I thought HF was leaning town already due to how he backed off his Wile push.


Ok so marv apparently found all the reasons for scumreading SL, He proposed them to lian. He Votes SL.

Later:

On January 20 2015 23:16 marvellosity wrote:
I do think HTS looks quite bad actually. But I'm willing to let her play.


On January 20 2015 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 23:36 sicklucker wrote:
Well if you guys sheep these two guys really bad read on me towns gonna be doomed because im flipping town...

If you're town, I'm pretty sure you can show the thread/us that you are town before eod. So I wouldn't worry too much.

I am a kind and benevolent master.


On January 21 2015 03:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 03:10 batsnacks wrote:
On January 21 2015 03:00 Vivax wrote:
On January 21 2015 02:48 batsnacks wrote:
Marv vivax is still doing that thing you voted him for earlier. The only thing that's changed is you're not the target.


Wait? WHat are you alluding to?

THat I try to find all scum at once? If SL flips scum I'm nominating myself for best town 2015.


marv voted you for making associative reads

So you made more associative reads

Then he unvoted you for "reasons I wouldn't like"

And you keep making associative reads

Its just not a logical progression from marv (or from you but that's not the point in trying to make). It seems like marv only thinks your associative reads are scummy when he is a part of them.

So there are two scenarios.

1.Everything I wrote about Vivax is true and he's mafia (as I thought at the time)
2.Vivax is just insane and the worst townplayer in history.

Sadly since the case I made I've been thinking that 2 is actually kinda possible.

And I don't really care what reasons Vivax brings for lynching sl. I'll decide by eod whether I think sl is still mafia and what Vivax says with all his theories will factor in about roughly zero amount into this
.


Suddenly:

On January 21 2015 04:50 marvellosity wrote:
sl might actually be town. Dunno if i can reconcile the stuff early in his filter about me, lian with kelsier, etc. though. The leap from "your omgusing a blatant town so i can't unvote you" to "marv is towniest of towns" was really quite something...

At the very least, I don't think questioning sl is gonna bring any dividends, because it's pretty clear at this stage he's not gonna make himself look good from it


Marv is taking a defensive stance on his scumreads, AND skipped my arguments for SL being scum.

Next step, marv finds a way to get out of his bus on SL.

On January 21 2015 04:53 marvellosity wrote:
I think lian looks kinda terrible for not contributing today.


On January 21 2015 04:54 marvellosity wrote:
So if I put sicklucker in one corner for the moment.

I guess I kinda have lian, Hts, Damdred in another corner?

And vivax in some kind of space-time loop


Notice how all his reasons for scumreading SL suddenly don't matter any more. He just puts him into the corner and defends him.

And before replcing out, he says:

On January 21 2015 06:15 marvellosity wrote:
Damdred is a good lynch.


TO BE CONTINUED
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 23 2015 00:18 GMT
#1989
On January 23 2015 08:35 sicklucker wrote:
How are me and hts ever on the same team. Koshi was also pretty much confirmed town by marv. Plus he wants to kill the right people


Hts voted lian with you and Koshi. So it's obvious you can be on the same team.

Marv isn't confirmed town as I just showed you with my analysis. He found some reasons to scumread you, then scrapped them, and started glaring at a liancourt lynch to get another wagon to save you. He decided it would be Damdred.

Now to reading Koshi and further solving the game.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 23 2015 00:32 GMT
#1990
Stop making fucking associative reads vivax.

Vayne, we lynch hts today. What are your reads btw?
No gg, No skill.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 00:36 GMT
#1991
slam/bats/dunno yet. I shall write something on bats later tonight, slam does not require any thought as its useless. just know that its important to lynch him and its likely hes scum.
I come in for the scraps
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 23 2015 00:50 GMT
#1992
On January 23 2015 09:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 08:35 sicklucker wrote:
How are me and hts ever on the same team. Koshi was also pretty much confirmed town by marv. Plus he wants to kill the right people


Hts voted lian with you and Koshi. So it's obvious you can be on the same team.

Marv isn't confirmed town as I just showed you with my analysis. He found some reasons to scumread you, then scrapped them, and started glaring at a liancourt lynch to get another wagon to save you. He decided it would be Damdred.

Now to reading Koshi and further solving the game.


Hts was trying to get me lynched early d1. Besides hf who agreed with my initial case I want hts dead the most. I dont know how marv plays mafia but if he wants to save me. Hes not going to get me in that bad spot in the first place. Marv was the reason people first voted me. He didnt like day 1 being fixated on him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 23 2015 00:58 GMT
#1993
Now to the Koshi analysis:

On January 21 2015 07:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 07:17 liancourt wrote:
discussion on marv seems irrelevant when koshi is here don't you think?

we can get a fresh perspective.

I don't know. Can you paste me the best case on marv? Or tell me what filter I need to read to find the source against this marv push. Is it Vivax?


Immediate defensive attitude. He wants to know who's pushing marv/him.

On January 21 2015 07:20 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 07:19 Koshi wrote:
On January 21 2015 07:17 liancourt wrote:
discussion on marv seems irrelevant when koshi is here don't you think?

we can get a fresh perspective.

I don't know. Can you paste me the best case on marv? Or tell me what filter I need to read to find the source against this marv push. Is it Vivax?

There is no case or push on marv.


Wile, town hero, replies. Koshi ignores it cause he realized he made a mistake. Next step from Koshi is?

On January 21 2015 07:21 Koshi wrote:
##vote: Alakaslam

Looks like he is hot and bothered.


Reasons? Unfathomable.

___________________________________

Let's go on.

On January 21 2015 07:24 Damdred wrote:
This feels like a boat and I just can't bail the water out fast enough at this point, (ie I did something scummy in peoples eyes and now everything I do is scummy).



On January 21 2015 07:26 Koshi wrote:
I am going to call Damdred town.


On January 21 2015 07:28 Koshi wrote:
I am going to be 99% sure Vivax is town.


He townreads me correctly. Obviously, he needs to buddy me up to survive. He doesn't even go back to the marv vs me thingy to see if my push on marv was justified etc. He just simply calls me town.

__________________________________________________________________________________________


Now the hammer:

On January 21 2015 07:35 Koshi wrote:
Seriously? 6 votes on sicklucker? Why?


Koshi just replaced in. Marv gave reasons for SL being scum earlier and scrapped them. Koshi didn't read them. Obviously cause Koshi is scum and doesn't need to read what the former scum wrote, right now he just needs to get people off of SL.

Next pages he banters with Alakaslam about some bullshit i dont understand, then he links to liancourts filter asking people how town it is.

In all of this, he didn't give a single reason for believing why SL is town.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

SL answers to Koshi:

On January 21 2015 07:47 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 07:35 Koshi wrote:
Seriously? 6 votes on sicklucker? Why?


Well it started out with a lian policy lynch. Then by 1 or 2 players who actually gave reasons but who dont even want to kill me first anymore. Then by sheep


Alakaslam replies to Koshi:

On January 21 2015 07:49 Alakaslam wrote:

*snipped cause gibberish*

Nonetheless, do you agree with marv? I generally did, however SL is quite capable of being very scummy early and proving his town later- therefore, I do not vote him. Do you find that reasonable or is it too scummy of me?


Here Alakaslam gives a reasonable reason for not voting SL.
KOSHI IGNORES IT. Both Koshi and Alakaslam don't scumread SL but Koshi suspects Alakaslam at this point and doesn't use this part of Alakaslam's quote to review his read on Alakaslam.

Instead he does this:

On January 21 2015 07:57 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 07:35 liancourt wrote:
On January 21 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
i'm inclined to vote damdy over sl tbh


dont. just dont


Actually talk to me about this lian why are you town reading me or at least reading me this way to try to push a vote off me?


On January 21 2015 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 07:57 Damdred wrote:
On January 21 2015 07:35 liancourt wrote:
On January 21 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
i'm inclined to vote damdy over sl tbh


dont. just dont


Actually talk to me about this lian why are you town reading me or at least reading me this way to try to push a vote off me?

off the table.


Koshi sees Damdred asking lian, the flipped town, why he's trying to defend him, and insta unscumreads Damdred for it.

Now, why doesn't Koshi immediately think that lian couldn't possibly have a scum agenda in defending a townread of his?

Next posts, damning:

On January 21 2015 08:04 Koshi wrote:
Well I don't want to lynch SL at all. But I will revisit him in the morning. gn.


On January 21 2015 08:50 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: liancourt

We got 3 ml and still lylo. This guy won't make it very far into this game.


In all this time where he said that SL was town, he didn't post a single argument for it. Instead ha argued with Alakaslam. He doesn't recognize that liancourt was following a town agenda there (according to Koshi's view of the game at the time).

So he promises to revisit SL, and drops his vote on lian for no reasons stated except pointing to his filter.

TO BE CONTINUED
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 23 2015 01:02 GMT
#1994
On January 23 2015 09:50 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 09:18 Vivax wrote:
On January 23 2015 08:35 sicklucker wrote:
How are me and hts ever on the same team. Koshi was also pretty much confirmed town by marv. Plus he wants to kill the right people


Hts voted lian with you and Koshi. So it's obvious you can be on the same team.

Marv isn't confirmed town as I just showed you with my analysis. He found some reasons to scumread you, then scrapped them, and started glaring at a liancourt lynch to get another wagon to save you. He decided it would be Damdred.

Now to reading Koshi and further solving the game.


Hts was trying to get me lynched early d1. I dont know how marv plays mafia but if he wants to save me. Hes not going to get me in that bad spot in the first place. Marv was the reason people first voted me. He didnt like day 1 being fixated on him.


Hts was trying to get me lynched early d1

Early bus, she later saved you by voting lian with you and Koshi.

Besides hf who agreed with my initial case I want hts dead the most.


Point me to this please

. Marv was the reason people first voted me. He didnt like day 1 being fixated on him


He first gave reasons for you being scum, then retracted all the reasons, put you into a meh pile, and started looking for mislynches.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 23 2015 01:02 GMT
#1995
On January 23 2015 09:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
slam/bats/dunno yet. I shall write something on bats later tonight, slam does not require any thought as its useless. just know that its important to lynch him and its likely hes scum.

How is HTS not scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 23 2015 01:04 GMT
#1996
Seriously Vivax, at least wait for SL to be lynched and flipped before you waste your fucking time.
No gg, No skill.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 01:09 GMT
#1997
On January 23 2015 10:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 09:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
slam/bats/dunno yet. I shall write something on bats later tonight, slam does not require any thought as its useless. just know that its important to lynch him and its likely hes scum.

How is HTS not scum?


never played with that person before and all the cases on HTS are meta for the most part so i can't comment on it, dont really care about things that dont concern me
I come in for the scraps
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 23 2015 01:10 GMT
#1998
On January 23 2015 10:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 10:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 23 2015 09:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
slam/bats/dunno yet. I shall write something on bats later tonight, slam does not require any thought as its useless. just know that its important to lynch him and its likely hes scum.

How is HTS not scum?


never played with that person before and all the cases on HTS are meta for the most part so i can't comment on it, dont really care about things that dont concern me


Why do you play mafia?
I will request a fucking ban for you if you don't do shit this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 23 2015 01:11 GMT
#1999
Anyway before I go on about how the three scum managed to get lian lynched saving SL last minute I'll have a quick dota game.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 23 2015 01:11 GMT
#2000
On January 23 2015 10:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 10:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 23 2015 09:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
slam/bats/dunno yet. I shall write something on bats later tonight, slam does not require any thought as its useless. just know that its important to lynch him and its likely hes scum.

How is HTS not scum?


never played with that person before and all the cases on HTS are meta for the most part so i can't comment on it, dont really care about things that dont concern me

So basically if HTS is scum you are conceding the game?
No gg, No skill.
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