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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 18 2015 22:49 GMT
#891
Harm maybe I misread I thought you said between me and lm....but they were the pleadings wagons at the time

I didn't mean to ill rethink this
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 00:32 GMT
#898
Usually Scum wouldn't unvote and let themselves be the vote leader with a few minutes left.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 01:30 GMT
#900
Any thoughts about jarjar fake claiming as mafia with like 7 minutes left. I have a tinfoil theory..,
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 02:49 GMT
#908
I have to cover all of my basis though, and we actually need to analysis the claim.

Firstly, there are two possible scenerios that involve a tracker. One is Cop tracker and one is tracker doctor. I thought about it as JarJar softing, but he cannot possibly know still that a medic exists in this setup as we are down to a 50/50 if he is the tracker. If we see a doc/cop flip obviously hes mafia, there might be something there and its still possibly a scum slip instead of a soft. I know it sounds tin foil, but its something we have to consider down the line and JarJar isn't confirmed if he isn't shot obviously. And if cop flips and doc flips.outs we at least have one mafia already there. So just figured I would talk it out before moving down.

Trfel should be the lynch tomorrow, maybe LM, and we still have to evaluate a couple more people. I'm going to heal Dp tonight obviously, hes the most towny person in the game.

I"m not sure if we should kill breshke tomorrow I like some of his posts but we need to pressure him a bit more, and talk me through your EoD rsoultin.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 02:53 GMT
#910
Shining, tell me do you think any of the wagons d1 were mafia they were

JarJar (claimed tracker)
damdred
GB
LM
Warwaffle (lynched)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 02:58 GMT
#914
whoa whoa whoa, firstly i'm not claiming doctor. That sentence must of been autocorrected or something, the gist is correct as I think dp is the most towny and should be healed. But i'm not the doc.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 03:01 GMT
#916
On January 19 2015 11:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 11:49 Damdred wrote:
I have to cover all of my basis though, and we actually need to analysis the claim.

Firstly, there are two possible scenerios that involve a tracker. One is Cop tracker and one is tracker doctor. I thought about it as JarJar softing, but he cannot possibly know still that a medic exists in this setup as we are down to a 50/50 if he is the tracker. If we see a doc/cop flip obviously hes mafia, there might be something there and its still possibly a scum slip instead of a soft. I know it sounds tin foil, but its something we have to consider down the line and JarJar isn't confirmed if he isn't shot obviously. And if cop flips and doc flips.outs we at least have one mafia already there. So just figured I would talk it out before moving down.

Trfel should be the lynch tomorrow, maybe LM, and we still have to evaluate a couple more people. I'm going to heal Dp tonight obviously, hes the most towny person in the game.

I"m not sure if we should kill breshke tomorrow I like some of his posts but we need to pressure him a bit more, and talk me through your EoD rsoultin.


Eh, messy.

Was trying to work out my thoughts with Lonemeow (ironic, I know) since the only one I was pretty sure on was Trfel, but no one wanted to lynch him and I didn't have any further arguments apart from what I already posted. Plus, yeah, I get stubborn and tunnel about people being insincere, when their words don't line up with their actions.

GB never felt like a good lynch to me. I didn't want to lynch LS. I feel I've got a pretty good tone read on my brother, so I didn't want to lynch JarJar. And no, I didn't want to lynch WW either. I actually was still deciding what to do when JarJar claimed and didn't see it until I'd already changed my vote. There was something like 90 seconds left at that time.

If anything, I found the lynch immensely frustrating. And much as I think that geript can't be scum unless I'm wrong on either JarJar or GB, that trfel in two pools thing still is niggling at me. It may not mean anything, though, odd as it seems and much as geript didn't want to actually explain it ><


Look at Russian Mafia for geripts last scum game, it was a really good scum game for him one that he probably should of hard carried to the victory. Honestly its one of the reasons hes not my #1 town, he makes me more paranoid than HF does as scum I think.

Its a pretty small lynch pool for you tomorrow then?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 03:02 GMT
#918
On January 19 2015 12:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 11:58 Damdred wrote:
whoa whoa whoa, firstly i'm not claiming doctor. That sentence must of been autocorrected or something, the gist is correct as I think dp is the most towny and should be healed. But i'm not the doc.

Well in the post you said you were going to heal DP and idk how it would of been auto corrected to that unless you are posting from a phone.


Yes i'm posting from a phone.

Why would you draw attention to this during the night?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 03:09 GMT
#922
On January 19 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah, I guess you're right, Damdred. It could be a false claim, technically, since mafia knows the setup. Just not sure where that gets us? Do you want to proceed as if it were false?

Why do you think that Trfel is the lynch tomorrow? You got onto us for not being willing to lynch inactives last game, and we've only got two mislynches left before scum wins.



Obviously jarjar will be alive tomorrow more than likely just for wifom if hes tracker and more than likely he will be blocked if he is the true tracker. I'm not going to give scum strategy so we shouldn't talk about it to much in depth, but until we start seeing some flips of another power role we need to just ignore it for now more than likely. I don't have much to substantiate with but the "softing/scum slip" earlier makes me a bit weary to believe the claim.

We have little inactives, I think we can eliminate shining from lynch tomorrow. Breshke needs a good day, LM needs a decent day. Those to me are our really only inactives and they aren't spammy but are here if we have a cop I would check one of them and hope to get lucky.

Trfel has been the least interested in the days activity I think, and has really changed the play from all of the other games I played with him in. Even in the last newbie it seemed very similar to carol/last student mafia. Was pretty strong even if he wasn't as inactive, and as blue in carol he was really strong. This just seems like a weird mirror like performance, playing down his ability no real scum reads sheeping instead of pushing. Being wrong is good in mafia it helps you get more information instead of laying back
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 03:13 GMT
#923
Heres my list currently from most town to lynchable

Damdred
DP
GB
Geript
Rsoultin
Shining
LS

Breshke
LM
Tref

I'm leaving jarjar out currently because unless we have a doc flip+red check on someone we should ignore his alignment and if we get a counter claim obviously. I'm not so sure we should lynch breshke but i'm having a hard time because of where my town reads are currently.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 03:14 GMT
#926
Which obviously after looking back on shinings filter and seeing my mistake at the read and his explanations+replies had me move him back towards the lower side of my towny list. And LS shouldn't be lynched obviously
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 03:17 GMT
#927
On January 19 2015 12:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 12:09 Damdred wrote:
On January 19 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah, I guess you're right, Damdred. It could be a false claim, technically, since mafia knows the setup. Just not sure where that gets us? Do you want to proceed as if it were false?

Why do you think that Trfel is the lynch tomorrow? You got onto us for not being willing to lynch inactives last game, and we've only got two mislynches left before scum wins.



Obviously jarjar will be alive tomorrow more than likely just for wifom if hes tracker and more than likely he will be blocked if he is the true tracker. I'm not going to give scum strategy so we shouldn't talk about it to much in depth, but until we start seeing some flips of another power role we need to just ignore it for now more than likely. I don't have much to substantiate with but the "softing/scum slip" earlier makes me a bit weary to believe the claim.

We have little inactives, I think we can eliminate shining from lynch tomorrow. Breshke needs a good day, LM needs a decent day. Those to me are our really only inactives and they aren't spammy but are here if we have a cop I would check one of them and hope to get lucky.

Trfel has been the least interested in the days activity I think, and has really changed the play from all of the other games I played with him in. Even in the last newbie it seemed very similar to carol/last student mafia. Was pretty strong even if he wasn't as inactive, and as blue in carol he was really strong. This just seems like a weird mirror like performance, playing down his ability no real scum reads sheeping instead of pushing. Being wrong is good in mafia it helps you get more information instead of laying back


...

Forgive me if this sounds crusty but why the hell are you coming to this conclusion now when I've been saying it all along? >< I stopped pushing trfel because I couldn't get any traction and started wondering if I was just being a stubborn ass again and blind to what everyone else was seeing.


Nights the best time for re-evaluation and talking through your reads and scum hunting more I say. If I get shot I need my thoughts out there anyway.

there felt like a good bit of resistance to a tr lynch, and I felt LM and cool was scummier at the moments, after a relook at tr filter I found a lot of scum traits. also I considered tr was a blue so I didn't want to bring it up but then I checked on his other blue game and it directly mirrored his VT game even though he was more absent in carol he bled town whenever he was there. Not so here, I think hes scummy now though. And I was halfway afk through most of th eday
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 03:19 GMT
#928
On January 19 2015 12:13 The Shining wrote:
Damdred - Yes. I'm leaning you and GB as slight town after getting my responses from you two. I'm not sure how much weight I'll put into the D1 tracker claim from JJB but its definitely something I want to vet. Hard. If it is a true claim, it was mentioned scum might leave him be and RB him. I want to see how and why WWs wagon picked up after the claim from Jar Jar and if any voters look like scum trying to jump on a wagon to save scum JJ with his possible fake claim. I leave work in an hour so a few hours after that, I can dig into votes more in depth.

The last minute vote and timing of LM and subsequent disappearance makes it possible this was a mafia lynchtrain as well. Again, need to look more into LM once I get home. One of these 2 is scum, just not sure which. And I agree that JJ living through tonight doesnt automatically mean he is scum.

Also, LS, that seemed like a horrible play if you're really Town. Whether Damdred was bread crumbing, hinting at it or it really was just a typo, the fact of the matter is it wasn't obvious until you yelled "HEY DID YOU JUST CLAIM DOCTOR?!" so now the entire thread, including scum, saw it. I really don't like the feeling I just got from you doing that.


Do you think that the train was started by a scum in geript or scum just took advantage of it?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 03:22 GMT
#930
You were in the last newbie game with him I believe, how different do you think his play is from there to here? (he claims he played bad in that newbie game as well)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 04:29 GMT
#946
I wish I could somehow pull off such a double bus as that. It would require such balls that I just don't I could do it and not blink lol.

Anyway theres one wagon that we all jumped off of right as it was forming and that was LM. I think it ended up tied with me right before everyone jumped on jarjar.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 04:57 GMT
#947
I'm somewhat breaking my promise about not doing a ton of quotes in a post but i'm going to hide them behind spoilers to make readability better.

Going into EoD, I had a few problems with LM.

These problems were mainly, a disconnect from the game. The catch up posts were incredibly behind and out of context they looked ok but in context seemed really disjoined and didn't flow well with the thread. Wasn't really interested in interactions much going into the day either.

I decided to look into EoD for LM and a few thing struck out at me.

The last quote in the spoilers is interesting to me, the vote hinges on WW voting with his scum read on tr. When if you check the votes and pay attention WW was on GB well before Tr even made a move that way. So it was an excuse to strengthen a mislynch which is telling to me, why lie and over explain your vote?

At the start of the quotes (previously jarjar was only mentioned twice and never was really sure if it was a scum read or what but was non committal) Asks why wouldn't you lynch jarjar, makes some noncommittal marks about somewhat scum reading me because it looks like my train is about to take off.

Next quote is a inconsitancy as LM never said that he didn't want to vote Jarjar, and also I think the train was going against GB and it was better to say I shouldn't be the lynch at this moment.

Overall it looks like someone just trying to find a safe spot for a vote, lying and over explaining everything while not really trying to rock the vote while parroting at points to.

pretty sure this person is scum. Quotes are in filter

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice?


I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated.

I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion.

I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol.

Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why.

I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh.


Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today.
Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons.

I need to reread Damdred and geript.


On January 19 2015 06:47 LoneMeow wrote:
Not lynching Damdred today unless there's something new on him, I quickly read his filter and I think he's more likely town than not.

I prefer jarjarbinks over GlowingBear despite what I said earlier about not wanting to lynch him today. jarjarbinks just seems to be making apologies and sitting in the background whereas GlowingBear is very vocally pushing for his lynch.

##Vote: jarjarbinks


On January 19 2015 06:57 LoneMeow wrote:
Wait, TheWarWaffle was actually voting with his previous best scum read Trfel? Yeah I'm ok with lynching him.

##Unvote
##Vote: TheWarWaffle

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 05:19 GMT
#948
People comment on this and by over explained probably overly justified is a better phrase
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 05:19 GMT
#949
Geript could you talk me through how you came to the conclusion we was better than all the other trains?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 06:26 GMT
#953
Any thoughts on what I posted
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 06:31 GMT
#956
Why didn't you want to lynch him
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