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On January 19 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not switching to a townread. i'm not certain on GB but it wouldn't surprise me if he is town
-shrugs-
I'm not certain that GlowingBear is town either. Not up to the level that I would like to be. But I think he is the best lynch, especially since LoneMeow came back again.
GlowingBear's play has been completely different and he has seemed largely ineffective at pushing anything, despite having maybe the largest filter in the game and being very active. GlowingBear is definitely more capable of pushing his scumreads than this.
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I could switch to TheWarWaffle. But not if it causes jarjarbinks to be lynched.
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On January 19 2015 07:16 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 06:53 Trfel wrote:
I could switch to TheWarWaffle. But not if it causes jarjarbinks to be lynched. This is the one of the biggest proofs why Trfel is scum. He didn't want to lynch Jar jar for being newbie but he was okay to lynch waffle who was also mislynched day1 in his previous game. You could never accept lynching war waffle.
I already explained why I wanted to lynch TheWarWaffle. I couldn't understand how he got his reads, his logic seemed terrible. I did not blame it on him being a newbie because last game I could follow his logic, and he showed some good thinking and more effort than this game. Meanwhile, jarjarbinks showed the exact opposite. He played much better on D1 this game than last game. Along with input from rsoultin, he looked like a poor lynch.
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On January 19 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 06:46 Trfel wrote:
GlowingBear
Earlier in the game I brought up the disconnect between GlowingBear's thread comments and his reads. I asked several questions to him, and he answered all of them except for that one. It seems like he is trying to make it look like he is reading the thread and making reads, but the two aren't related together. I do like his post analysis, and I didn't mind his early reads, but the lack of unity was strange.
The post about coming after lurkers seems bad, and I don't see him doing much about lurkers at all. In fact, his reads have been all over the place. I wouldn't say that he has been really coming after anyone, but dropping his reads and making new reads. His push on geript strikes me as particularly strange. At this point, geript is coming across as pretty strongly town, so that makes no sense at all. He's basically scummed everyone at some point this game.
Like I said, his case on Damdred makes absolutely no sense. Especially when he retracted it and emphatically stated that Damdred is town for little apparent reason. GlowingBear has also been using a crazy amount of OMGUS this game. I don't like it at all.
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##Vote: GlowingBear This case on me is also convoluted and his vote on me only got traction when I was about to be mislynched. His vote was BEFORE this case and a lot of things doesn't make me mafia. Specially the OMGUS part. OMGUS is more likely to be town paranoia than mafia behaviour. But the thing is: I was COMPLETELY tunnelled on Holyflare in Christmas Carol and I was town, and Trfel was there. This guy is definetely mafia.
Wait, how is my vote BEFORE the case? My vote is RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CASE YOU QUOTED.
Yes, in Carol of the Bells you were completely tunneled on Holyflare. Here, you are flying all over the place and scumreading everyone. In Carol of the Bells, you nearly got Holyflare lynched, so I'd say that was pretty effective. Here, you had basically no following on your reads.
I need to take a break, but you still look like scum to me.
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Sorry, I thought that we were supposed to post at least once every phase, not once every 48 hours. I had a bunch of work to do, I finished some of it, I will be be back and post more tonight.
Sorry, I didn't realize that I would be so busy.
This lynch wagon is completely ridiculous. I can't believe that everyone is voting to lynch me. Just because I am trying to change my play and figure out how the game works? That doesn't make any sense at all. I care enough to try different things and see what works. Evidently this didn't work.
You guys are seriously believing the guy who claimed cop? First of all, he started the game completely nonsensical, and somehow got townread, and then changed his behavior completely. Why would town do anything different after they get townread? I can't decide if he is simply a town liar or if he is a mafia trying to get a townie lynched, but I'm inclined to think the latter. If you don't listen to me know, hopefully you will at least lynch him next after I flip. A one to one change with a mafia is a pretty good result for a townie.
I'll look into some other scum options, but this wagon on me is really giving a lot away. I'm pretty sure that the mafia team is leading it.
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After I die, PLEASE lynch LightningStrike.... Don't lynch jarjarbinks. He is new, but he isn't scum. Seriously, read his play from last game and you will understand. His filter looks fine to me.
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On January 21 2015 13:03 Damdred wrote:
Trfel if you are really town and LS is mafia which is highly doubtful. You should leave us with some form of last will or do something towny which you aren't doing.
I have so much homework... I would love to....
First is lynch LightningStrike.
After that I'm not really sure. I'd have to take a look at who started leading my lynch and why. DarthPunk jumped on my wagon pretty quickly, as did Breshke. But DarthPunk defended me earlier, which I don't understand when he is willing to lynch me now.
As for lurkers, LoneMeow and The Shining are probably the biggest options. I am still scumreading LoneMeow pretty heavily. His inactivity is really scummy, and I posted my case earlier. Sneaking under the lynch didn't help. The Shining, on the other hand, seems rather towny. He hasn't posted that much, but I do like the analysis that he has provided, and I can forgive the lack of activity.
Hopefully I can be on more tomorrow and help share the lynch list.
I suppose it's probably too much to ask to spare myself from being lynched, but I hope that you guys can still manage to win the game, with LYLO coming up soon. Would it help to save myself if I claimed?
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Let's start the counterwagon.
##Vote: LightningStrike
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If I can save myself, claiming just makes myself worthless. The scum will shoot me for sure.
I'd rather wait to see if it is really necessary.
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I think I can survive if I don't claim.
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On January 21 2015 13:36 Damdred wrote:
You can't, someone has claimed a red check on you.
We are killing you off unless you claim come up with an amazing defense.
Did I not already demonstrate how LightningStrike is scum? I thought it was rather conclusive.
I know that I am town.
He says that I am scum.
There are a few options.
1. I got sent the wrong PM
2. There is actually an unaware miller in this game
3. LightningStrike is the worst town player of all time
4. LightningStrike is a mafia who lied to get a threat lynched
BlazingHand is a good host, so the first two options are unlikely. LightningStrike may well be the worst town player of all time, however my play this game is showing that I am even worse, since he seems to be getting me lynched, therefore this is not possible. (To make everything clear I am kidding, LightningStrike is cool, but my point stands). Therefore the only logical option is that LightningStrike is a mafia who false claimed.
The reason for this is having both roles claimed makes it even harder for the town to actually claim. Especially since he faked his check on me. Also, I was suspicious of him early on. I noticed the weirdness in his play. It's natural for him to try and get me out of the way quickly.
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On January 21 2015 13:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Even if by some miracle Trfel is town. Then we just lynch LS tomorrow.
I think it is correct to lynch trefle no matter what his defense is like.
With a defense like this, you can't possibly lynch me.
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On January 21 2015 13:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 13:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Even if by some miracle Trfel is town. Then we just lynch LS tomorrow.
I think it is correct to lynch trefle no matter what his defense is like.
Agreed. I'm not sure what this is from him, anyway. Trfel, if I were you and town I'd get out my case-making mojo, comb the thread and the filters, and give us something awesome to work with if you flip town. LS is a given with a green (or blue) flip.
Why should I bother if you guys are just going to lynch me anyway? I have other things to do, you guys won't listen to my logic. The game is lost, I should give it up. If you guys don't lynch me maybe I will build some cases for you, since you seem to be too lazy to do it yourself.
Rsoultin could very well be mafia as well.
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I slept last night because I was tired.
Like you said, LoneMeow and I were looking like the top lynch candidates for the start of the day.
So if LightningStrike actually WAS the cop, and actually DID check me, and it actually DID come up red (which is all false), him claiming makes no sense at all. He shouldn't need a claim to lynch me, just press the lynch through and live to fight another day. Save the claim for later, if it is necessary. Why would he possibly claim where he did? I'll tell you why, BECAUSE IT GETS ME LYNCHED. That's all he wants. Not townie at all.
Meanwhile, I'm trying to preserve the blue roles for as long as possible. I advocated keeping jarjar alive, and guess what, he's basically confirmed town (no cc roleblock). Meanwhile everyone else wanted to lynch him, except rsoultin.
I've been a town power role twice in the past. The first time I died on Night 1. The second time I afk'd for day 1 and night 1, and died on night 2 (one day of play). Do you think I learned something? I did better in the second game, but I still died way too early. I'm pretty sure I'm not getting nightkilled this game, but I didn't account for the fake cop check, so I could get lynched instead. I will work on finding the balance.
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Speaking of sleep, I need some. Good night.
Please, take some time and think about this. I want to break marv's town non-lynched record. You guys aren't helping.
Looking at LightningStrike, DarthPunk, LoneMeow, and rsoultin for the potential scum team. Pretty sure that three of them are scum.
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I'm coming for you LightningStrike. Today or tomorrow, but I can and will strike from the grave. Silly of you to think you could lynch me without repercussions.
Not sure how much I'll be online tomorrow, I'm pretty busy, but don't take my inactivity as admission of guilt. I know I'm right, and no amount of false claims can change that. I don't care if people from all other games come in here and claim a red check on me, I am still right.
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On January 21 2015 22:53 LightningStrike wrote:
HTS I only got 1 vote on me lol.....
It's the thought that counts!
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No one has any last words for me before I die?
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EPT
