New Years Eve Party Mini Mafia

On January 03 2015 05:01 rsoultin wrote:
i'll be regretting this when they're both ongoing, but gotta get yer fix somewhere ^^

On January 03 2015 07:49 LightningStrike wrote:

No you not I shadowing Palmar lol.

On January 03 2015 08:53 LightningStrike wrote:

You already /in you silly

On January 03 2015 12:47 LightningStrike wrote:

Damdred is to focused on playing in the game we both shadowing in :O

On January 07 2015 06:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Really guys just because I used a generic opener doesn't make me scum -.-
Eden why the hell you sheeping already because it's like 20 mins since the game started?

On January 07 2015 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:

4 Complete games and playing my 5th and 6th games currently. What about you?

On January 07 2015 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:

I only soft claimed on Carol on Day 1 then Day 2 I hard claimed.

On January 07 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote:


First game you claimed cop day1
second game you were mafia
third game you claimed a role on day 1. You were like barely a role
fourth game you claimed vt on day 1 (metal)
fifth game .........
your 6th game please dont do it thanks.

Coaching towns to victorys

On January 07 2015 07:10 mderg wrote:

The most important question is: did he win those games?

On January 07 2015 07:25 Eden1892 wrote:

Can you explain what about it makes you think the overreaction is purposeful? I don't really see the motive for doing something like that intentionally.

On January 07 2015 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:

I got nothing yet on her I need more posts from her to see her alignment. I played with her in 2 previous games when she was town. What about your thoughts on HTS?

On January 07 2015 10:28 liancourt wrote:
This is going to be a hard game

On January 07 2015 10:41 Breshke wrote:


You can go to bed its fine don't feel like you need to stay here and interact theres plenty of time left but i have more to say.



Here you clearly say he doesn't claim in his second game and his claim in his first was completely justified because he was getting and still got lynched. So he hasn't claimed his role in every one of his games.

To me it looks like you tried to enter the thread by looking helpful with a warning to LS about something he most likely knows already. At not one point have you tried to work out alignments except saying ls has a 11/14 chance of being town . Even when i call you out you just call me terrible, am i terrible town or terrible mafia?

On January 08 2015 01:47 Eden1892 wrote:

How do you know LightningStrike is the "least confident" town? Seeing as this requires you to know who all the town are, you can understand why this interests me so much.

On January 08 2015 12:29 sicklucker wrote:
Hey obi and bats remember the last time you guys did this on day one? Oh ya you were both town.

On January 08 2015 12:32 LightningStrike wrote:

He did the same thing on Student Mafia IV where you both were town because of your trap -.-

On January 09 2015 01:02 batsnacks wrote:
Oats plays the same every game (I've been in). If he's mafia I don't think you will catch him by analyzing his meta and if he's town it's not because of meta.

On January 09 2015 00:48 batsnacks wrote:
I think if anything the fact that VA has communicated his thoughts neatly and seriously is suspicious.

I would guess that's why oats voted him.

On January 09 2015 04:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Sure let me write a comprehensive case on my phone while I'm at work.

Oh wait.

On January 09 2015 06:56 sicklucker wrote:
breske will you join us and ruin someones day?

On January 10 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
27NB can you give me your reads when you done reading Day 1 please?

On January 09 2015 01:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
If I do get lynched, I would go for lightningstrike next, his vote on me makes no sense as I was against liancourt who was pushing him. A simple inconsistency that many new players make.

On January 10 2015 01:02 LightningStrike wrote:

I was trusting Oats meta read on VA saying that VA doesn't try Day 1 as town and we already saw what happened. I still town reading Oats based on his play on Student but that lynch might make Oats a little icky.

On January 11 2015 07:28 LightningStrike wrote:
I sorry I forgot to say I was going to play a in a Yugioh Tournament today T_T Anyone here want to talk?

On January 11 2015 12:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh my only gut feeling about HTS is mainly the fact she is never around this game compared to the other game she is playing and just seems to glide by this game. Also sicklucker I wanted people to figure out you are a miller by themselves -.-

On January 12 2015 04:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why LS, drp?

I don't really suspect him much at all tbh.

On January 12 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:

Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?

On January 12 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:

Meta wise Lian as town would make these annoying ass spoilered posts and made it hard for me to read his thoughts but this game he haven't.
##Vote: Lian

On January 12 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:

He's mafia because of meta at least in my eyes. Also seemed to get ticked off a little bit easier this game than in Carol too.

On January 12 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:

He's mafia because of meta at least in my eyes. Also seemed to get ticked off a little bit easier this game than in Carol too.

On December 20 2014 11:38 liancourt wrote:
i dont have to explain anyhting to you

you won't even vote hf

i refuse to explain myself until hf is dead

i am so mad at town i'm having hissyfit.

i literally do not care what town thinks of me at all.

come at me bro

fite me

lynch me kill me

just lynch hf and i will discuss bloody everything

why is that so hard

why is he alive until now?

why is town so stupid voting tube

why didnt i wake up an hour earlier to push hf.

it was 5 4 5

so you know how close that vote was it was a 3 way

omg

hf and temp wont die

me gb ff sl wont die

ras is so bad at town that he wont die

xat oats potential scum wont die

ls vivax claimed? lol does it matter?

hts? who the hell is this guy he has absolutley no thread presence he'll die like a random kill like the way frog died.

scum hunting nigella, hts is nigella confirmed?

nigella dont u dare protect me tonight i will slap u

i will die knowing i got scum team right

nigella dont u dare protect claimed cos scum knows you'll protect them.

nigella dont u dare prtect anyone

i hated nigella lawson. jamie oliver was so much better

On January 12 2015 06:17 LightningStrike wrote:

Okay so how would you see Lian as Mafia?

On January 10 2015 15:45 Eden1892 wrote:

First thought is LOL at trying to do vca on this. Two wagons, one town, the other unknown, clear majority, only outlier vote is confirmed town b/c she was shot right afterward. No layups

In situations like these where the main wagon is town and we don't know the other wagon, we first want to look at the rationale people gave for their votes. The first person I notice is myself, because I didn't give any, because I'm a donkey and I slept through EOD and only managed to slap a fast vote down to avoid mod sanction. No johns, I suck, sorry guys.

Instead I'm going to look at the other people who coasted on the lead wagon.

First is liancourt. Most of his d1 posting by far is pushing LightningStrike, then ObiWanShinobi. Then he ends up voting with both on VayneAuthority, because VA wasn't trying d1. This is an odd sequence of events to me because (1) I don't think that's the strongest case to be made on VA and (2) liancourt claims to have only given up on pushing LS and Obi because the pushes weren't getting traction, which should mean he didn't stop suspecting them, and yet he ends up voting for the same guy as them. I know that even if I had failed to convince people to kill my suspects, two of them voting together on someone would have given me a great deal of pause. liancourt just lets the kill happen.

Second is Oatsmaster, his case on Vayne is also not the correct case IMO. It's weird that it's the opposite of liancourt's, and that in the course of discussing this read neither one of them ended up arguing with the other about it. I guess maybe he didn't have to push as hard because Vayne became the lynch fairly quick, but it seems like he pretty much parked his vote and left.

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Other notes:

- sicklucker and LightningStrike are probably town, they've both been pretty active and have pushed their lynch hard. I don't think either of the cases they made on their targets d1 were actually good, but I think they were genuine, which is all I need to see to make a read.

- Half the Sky looks reasonably good to me as well. The one thing irking me a bit is that she read me as town for making a "detailed case" on Vayne when I don't remember ever doing so, but it's obvious she cares about the direction of the game. Her interaction with sicklucker about the past game seems sincere enough - I know it's not directly relevant to this game, but I think the entire conversation reads town, go open her filter and find that bit and read for yourselves so you can see what I mean - and she's been rather open with her thoughts.

- batsnacks is sorta vulnerable to the same logic that implicates liancourt, but batsnacks still pushed reasonably hard on Obi while voting Vayne and tried to get a last-minute vote on Obi instead of Vayne. This strikes me as more of what I'd expect a townie to do if his primary suspect were off the table: go after a secondary one while taking his chances at getting the primary suspect killed instead. I also think he's been a lot more forthright and sincere than liancourt, so I find myself okay with batsnacks, even though to some extent he does the same thing that liancourt does.

- Obi already called out liancourt for the big thing I noticed earlier, so he's town in my mind for now. Obi does end up criticizing the VA lynch while staying on it, but if you read his filter it seems fairly clear that he got caught with insufficient time to figure out anything else to do due to out-of-game constraints. It's not like he peaced out from the thread and coasted. I can give him a pass on that.

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That's all I feel like doing right now, I'll do more later on but this seems good enough to start with.

Town: me, Obi, HTS, SL, LS, bats
Mafia: Oats, lian
TBD: Breshke, lollipop, derg, Doc

On January 12 2015 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:

That was one of his post he didn't spoilered but this game he didn't even spoilered a single post.

On January 13 2015 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:

Dude I was going to shoot Breshke Day 1 but I wanted to confirm myself that he got to be scum. I wasn't sheeping shit on shooting Breshke in fact I sent my action before OWS told me ot shoot him or loli.

First is liancourt. Most of his d1 posting by far is pushing LightningStrike, then ObiWanShinobi. Then he ends up voting with both on VayneAuthority, because VA wasn't trying d1. This is an odd sequence of events to me because (1) I don't think that's the strongest case to be made on VA and (2) liancourt claims to have only given up on pushing LS and Obi because the pushes weren't getting traction, which should mean he didn't stop suspecting them, and yet he ends up voting for the same guy as them. I know that even if I had failed to convince people to kill my suspects, two of them voting together on someone would have given me a great deal of pause. liancourt just lets the kill happen.

On January 12 2015 06:58 Trfel wrote:

ObiWanShinobi (0): batsnacks, lalipop
Half the Sky (0): sicklucker, DrParnassus, mderg
LightningStrike (1): liancourt, batsnacks, Breshke
lalipop (4): liancourt, Breshke, sicklucker, DrParnassus, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892, batsnacks
DrParnassus (2): Oatsmaster, liancourt, lalipop
Oatsmaster (4): Eden1892, mderg, Eden1892, lalipop, LightningStrike, Breshke
liancourt (0): LightningStrike, lalipop

Oatsmaster has been lynched!

On January 08 2015 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
For now I town reading Oats and Lian since Oats seemed much more like himself from Student Mafia IV and Lian posts being genuine about his stuff on me. I finding that sicklucker early town read kind of questionable because I not done anything townie yet he giving me a very early town read. Unless he's basing off of meta he should have no reason to town read me this early.

On January 09 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
27ninjabunnies you know better than that. We not lynching Oats until Day 2 or 3 if we suspect he is scum but for now I town reading him for the fact he pretty much acting like how he did in Student Mafia IV where he was VT.
Here is his filter from that game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=Oatsmaster

On January 09 2015 04:52 LightningStrike wrote:

Ugh it's a meta case by my biggest town read in Oats and Oats said that VA doesn't play or try at Day 1 as town.

On January 09 2015 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:

I found a target from one of my town reads. My target is VA right now and my BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGG town read is Oatsmaster this game.

On January 09 2015 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:

Follow me and Oats bro?

On January 10 2015 01:02 LightningStrike wrote:

I was trusting Oats meta read on VA saying that VA doesn't try Day 1 as town and we already saw what happened. I still town reading Oats based on his play on Student but that lynch might make Oats a little icky.

On January 14 2015 07:56 batsnacks wrote:


Follow SL? I think that's a -lot- harder than you're making it out to be.

but seriously

This means you think mderg is town or what? Why does mafia want to follow SL and not you?

On January 14 2015 10:49 sicklucker wrote:
He tried. No one else really did. He also lurked in his other mafia game. Will look into it more tormorow

On January 14 2015 11:07 Eden1892 wrote:

He's tried less than I have and I wouldn't describe most of my d1-d2 play as trying very hard. You gotta be kiddin me brah.

On January 14 2015 22:51 LightningStrike wrote:
I forgot that scum called HTS,Lian, and mderg town and he was right on 2 of them on flip alone. Normally scum would try to defend the weaker players (HTS and mderg) and someone being scum read by some people (Lian).
##Unvote

On January 14 2015 23:10 liancourt wrote:
mderg what do u think about drp?

eden what do u think about drp?

On January 14 2015 19:27 mderg wrote:
drp was very unmemorable in the thread, I don't even really know what his reads were. He voted himself on day1 and lalalipop on day2 both of these votes don't really point towards him being town.

On January 14 2015 20:57 mderg wrote:
DrP would be my second target which should actually be obvious.

On January 14 2015 23:21 LightningStrike wrote:

After taking a second look through Lians filter and rereading Breshkes filter I got a town read on Lian. There is mostly stuff only town way.

On January 14 2015 23:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Also when a Mafia call a player Town it like almost certain that they are really are town.

On January 15 2015 04:07 LightningStrike wrote:

Okay explain how it's not valid then? It's a rule of thumb I learned from experience with playing with vets. It's normally applied to the weakers as far I can tell.

On January 15 2015 04:20 LightningStrike wrote:

Fair enough. Also can you tell me your reads before you go?

On January 15 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I guess we going back to Squire 1 to find mafia :|

On January 15 2015 23:00 sicklucker wrote:
in ls we believe!

On January 18 2015 08:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Welp I guess despite the Vig kill town couldn't find more scum Any advice for me?

On January 18 2015 08:17 LightningStrike wrote:

I think it was because sicklucker wasn't really acting like a blue and people doubted his claim I guess because I was wrong on mderg being scum.