EPT/in for now, then again...
I'm pretty tipsy, so I'm not quite finding an EoD time.
Hope it's before midnight GMT...
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/in for now, then again... I'm pretty tipsy, so I'm not quite finding an EoD time. Hope it's before midnight GMT... | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:01 rsoultin wrote: i'll be regretting this when they're both ongoing, but gotta get yer fix somewhere ^^ I think we're both going to be having the same issue ROFLMAO. I am going through withdrawal now...and withdrawal is painful  | ||
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On January 03 2015 07:49 LightningStrike wrote: No you not I shadowing Palmar lol. Same game LS, not same player. *smacks head* | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:04 Damdred wrote: 17:00 EST roughly maybe a tad bit later depending <3 Would be quite happy with that.  | ||
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On January 06 2015 23:18 Damdred wrote: Only confirm i'm missing at this poins is oats Oats is likely asleep at this hour, since he's in Singapore. So that confirm could be another 6-8h. | ||
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On January 07 2015 07:42 mderg wrote: I find it more likely that he just didn't see it. I'm looking at the timestamps...this is likely, plus LS is in another game right now that is approaching EoD and his attention is likely divided between the two games. | ||
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My only history was the last normal, in Carol, he was posting a lot of short, almost useless posts. Does he try in some games but not in others? | ||
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On January 07 2015 09:59 sicklucker wrote: Breske your terrible. Me wanting someone to fix a part of their game that they play incorrect makes me confirmed town. If I was scum I would not coach the least confident town I would kill him Silly silly Goodnight As far as this game is concerned, making general comments like that to me is not alignment indicative at best, could be scum behaviour for detracting from the current game. | ||
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On January 07 2015 22:58 mderg wrote: Any reads so far, HTS? Right now, from the posts I've seen so far, I'm leaning town on Bunnies for her post evaluating the 2-3 reads she did (she's trying, no?), leaning scum on SL (previously mentioned), leaning scum on LS (his posts are a bit of fluff, plus posts that detract). Eden, I'm leaning town, not so much because he voted SL, but his detailed post in doing so. It shows what appears to be a town-driven analysis. Batsnacks, I will need to see more posts from him to evaluate. Lian seemed emotional in the last game I played with him too, but his posts this time are a bit more content. He does point out flaws in LS's posts and he is reading between the lines, yes they are emotional, but Lian was emotional in Carol. For now, I'm leaning town on Lian, although I am waiting to see if someone can give me another POV on a scum meta. | ||
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On January 07 2015 23:51 sicklucker wrote: Hts whats your read on me? about the ls thing? why do you ignore this? Sicklucker, clearly you aren't reading the thread...I wasn't ignoring it. On January 07 2015 22:40 Half the Sky wrote: As far as this game is concerned, making general comments like that to me is not alignment indicative at best, could be scum behaviour for detracting from the current game. On January 07 2015 23:39 Half the Sky wrote: Right now, from the posts I've seen so far, I'm leaning town on Bunnies for her post evaluating the 2-3 reads she did (she's trying, no?), leaning scum on SL (previously mentioned), leaning scum on LS (his posts are a bit of fluff, plus posts that detract). I gave my read on you in the post literally before your question. | ||
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On January 08 2015 02:17 sicklucker wrote: Actually I think dandred might troll us and put a serial killer in this game since he said "lynch the bad guys" in some post but we can worry about that later. But even that I doubt Why are you even posting this? The roles on page 1 are pretty clear as to whether there is an SK or not. | ||
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On January 08 2015 02:15 VayneAuthority wrote: Yea liancourt could actually legit be scum after that last post, besides that I see nothing fishy. Probably 1 scum hasn't posted yet and the other is blending in well. Afternoon Vayne, do you have any reads on what has been posted so far? | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:03 batsnacks wrote: How do you complain about activity levels when you haven't posted anything useful or given a single read? You won't even respond seriously when I've given you something legitimately worth responding to. To be fair, there is not much readable content, not much, but some. So OWS, comment on the people who have already posted. | ||
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What do you think is the difference between his D1 play here versus Carol that makes him scum? | ||
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On January 08 2015 09:39 sicklucker wrote: Htf obi was a role he was trying to look scummy in carol of the bells. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU WERE THE OTHER ROLE INTENTIONAL BEING SCUMMY? From what I can tell, you are not pushing Obi's lynch, Bats and Lian are. | ||
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On January 07 2015 22:40 Half the Sky wrote: As far as this game is concerned, making general comments like that to me is not alignment indicative at best, could be scum behaviour for detracting from the current game. I am saying this for making posts that detract from scumhunting this current game, which ironically by constantly going on and on about the same thing (as Breshke rightfully questions your read) you are only proving my point. | ||
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On January 08 2015 14:33 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other but you extort somone's post to make them look scummy or discredit them. It seems he opted to do both there. I don't follow on what you mean by intentional, as making a post on it pretty much makes it intentional by definition. Still figuring out the second part, I don't really give a shit if we lynch town on day 1 its not a big deal. On January 08 2015 15:10 VayneAuthority wrote: Statistics show that a random lynch lynches scum more of the time then a well thought out first day lynch. Therefore unless there are mayor mechanics or something else special I rarely care what happens day 1 for the most part. The above is completely false. As of November 2014, from Kita's database: Mafia players are lynched 26.2% of the time on day one. Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 25.2% of the time. Mafia players are lynched only 16.9% of the time in newbie games on day one, so excluding these games brings the overall day one lynch percentage up to 28.5%! On January 08 2015 15:28 VayneAuthority wrote: there is power roles, night actions, and reactions to both, literally the only things I need to hunt scum. So you are correct, I think all of day 1 is irrelevant and I can skip it for the most part All of what I have highlighted is untrue. I feel the attitude in each and all of these quotes shows: 1 Indifference to finding scum, and D1 is not an excuse 2 Deconstructive thinking and discouraging other methods of scumhunting that others may use 3 Third quote shows WIFOM activity as the best way to find scum. And according to the database he is clearly NOT a new player. No, no and triple no. ##vote VayneAuthority | ||
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On January 09 2015 00:20 batsnacks wrote: I'm not saying you're wrong, but everything VA is saying is consistent with his meta. He usually dicks around d1, posts random pictures, and if he's town there will be random moments of actually trying later on. Just wanted to throw that out there. Okay, then let me take a step back here because I'm also not the only one that voted for him. Eden at least suspected/pushed him and Lian and Oats also voted him as well. Lian, Eden, Oats: Have any of you played a game with VA? If so, could any of the three of you either vouch for or give a counterargument on VA's meta? | ||
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But I'm going to wait and see what OWS says though. And if his knowledge supports, I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Bats is contesting that Oats' thinking may also be flawed in voting you. Do you have an alternative, or would your alternative be LS? Also OP doesn't say when EoD is. Should I assume 1700 EST? | ||
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My thoughts: I do not understand Bunnies' vote on Oats, but I want her to explain first. I do not feel Oats is the D1 lynch. Sicklucker generally needs more than one day to evaluate, Breshke I know has been scum before and a couple are scumreading him based on tone. I also feel I need another day to eval those two, Bats, OWS. Lian...different approach...but I'm not feeling a lynch on him either. mderg, I don't want to omgus him, but if I were to switch my name with someone else's and if I saw him say the same thing, my problem with his argument is that even for D1, the reads still show I am trying to work with what limited information I have. Saying my reads were inaccurate (i.e. Bats) is fine, though. Eden's posts I am getting a town sense of thinking, I don't want to lynch him. Lala has yet to post since he (she?) confirmed though. Now this is a potential modkill and if we absolutely positively have no other alternatives... On my phone, but I'll keep my eyes open here if I can. | ||
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Then when VA says "community sucks", Bats says don't let the door hit you on the way out. That's when I think Bats votes him. LS: Full power, atm. Also other half has his tablet on him if it comes to that. | ||
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I already said I will move my vote. To whom? | ||
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I don't understand your reasoning. | ||
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On January 09 2015 05:00 sicklucker wrote: Ignore the modkill because we want him to get replaced. Wasting a vote on him is never correct. Like I cant read bats I admit this everygame and mislynched him twice. I have correctly read you in both are games together and you ignored things a town you should not ignore. Actually no you have NOT correctly read me in both games. In Carol, you were 100 percent sure that I was scum until I claimed. You were wrong at one point on me. You are wrong right now. You will see how wrong you are when I flip. I also think it's dirty of you to start the wagon the way you are because now by doing this I will be forced to keep my vote on VA to save myself. If you are scum, you are either trying to get me or VA killed, and it won't matter whom. | ||
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You didn't instant believe me. You demanded my saves (rightfully) and waited for a cc. Try again. | ||
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On January 09 2015 05:20 sicklucker wrote: cop didnt die n2? you were the cop wtf is this lie You are trying to get me lynched for this? I WAS THE FUCKING JAILKEEPER. Someone please go to Carol thread. I cannot quote from phone, but Carol of the Bells game. D3 results. Trfel the Santa, the cop is dead. Why are you so desperate to get me killed SL? | ||
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Dr.P, will read NB filter again. | ||
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On January 09 2015 05:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Thinking it over, people like hts voting for their own reasoning might be an indicator of newness rather than scumness. That is why I deferred to you and Bats, plus the veterans that also voted him. I tunnelled Bats in my Student game, my first game here, and refused to believe meta then and it got me in a lot of trouble. I have since learnt from that mistake. I deferred because I care about getting this right. | ||
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I don't see the edginess in the posts you describe. | ||
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I am referring especially to this: On January 09 2015 04:33 Half the Sky wrote: Sicklucker generally needs more than one day to evaluate, Breshke I know has been scum before and a couple are scumreading him based on tone. I also feel I need another day to eval those two, Bats, OWS. Others are saying they also want to hold off on others lynches as well. That is what I mean. Why pick me? | ||
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On January 09 2015 06:02 mderg wrote: I'm not really criticizing your reads but rather how you present your reads. So this is a tone argument I understand? One of my reads were based on a previous quote. This is the first time I've played a game with you. How reliable do you think your (tone?) read on me is? | ||
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On January 09 2015 06:07 sicklucker wrote: Hts has literally not pushed one scum read all game. just saying . Sure she voted that one person but she was blatantly looking for an out. Was anyone getting pushed by anyone aside from VA? As for now? I am getting tunnelled by you and pushed by mderg. I'm on the tablet now...but somehow I'm going to fight a wagon and still push a scumread in the next 50m... | ||
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SL, Bats, OWS, Breshke. I have played 1-2 games with each of them before. Bats is a hard read. I have misread him in both games I've played with him. Sicklucker posts very erratic, he has done this in both games. Breskhe, one game played as town with him, and obs a game he was scum. Could not read him when he was scum. OWS, played one game and badly misread him. Wasn't sure how to interpret his indifference. Based on their posts in this game, and based on how I felt their posts were in prior games difficult to read. Not feeling different now except for SL tunnelling me and I don't understand his motives. | ||
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Sicklurker - leaning scum. He has taken my posts out of context, detracted from conversation twice through the LS thing and by tunnelling me. I don't feel he's been reasonable in his arguments. Breshke - townread. Questioning the two bandwagons, trying to come up with an alternative. Voted the alternative. Also questioned the whole thing with LS. DrParnassus - leaning town, appears to care about getting the vote right as he tried to search for an alternate target. Eden1892 - leaning town based on his posts and detailed pushes on VA. VayneAuthority - disregarding meta, I had a scumread on him because he did not appear to care for the game or want to scumhunt. mderg - I'm going to say leaning scum, it seems like even with explanations, and not knowing me, he's finding excuses to place a lynch on someone. Tone reads are unreliable and this is the first game I've had with him. ObiWanShinobi - null. Is acting indifferently, but have observed him playing this way before in Carol D1. I can't tell if that's his meta or if this game, he's scum hanging back letting us fight it out. NinjaBunnies - null, maaayyyybeee leaning scum? She posted one post that I thought made the most of the limited information with whatever reads she had. It had me townread her earlier, but the vote on Oats was out of nowhere. | ||
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liancourt - I'm going to say null leaning town as he picked apart LS. batsnacks - I have misread you in both my games so far. I'm going to say null and here's why. Your thoughts on VA meta and willing to consider my reads, right now, but I don't understand what happened with you and OWS earlier. I also don't understand why you discouraged a vote on VA and then turned around and voted him after he complained on the community. lalalipop - null, came in a bit late. May not be understanding the context of my post to scumread me the way he is. LightningStrike - null leaning scum, quite a bit of fluff and didn't seem to be too interested in finding targets. Oatsmaster - null leaning town. Not posting a whole lot, but based on meta, he is acting the same way that he is when he was VT in Student Mafia. | ||
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On January 09 2015 06:58 DrParnassus wrote: ##unvote ##vote drparnassus I don't understand? | ||
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Is it 10pm yet? | ||
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On January 09 2015 06:59 sicklucker wrote: Bah no time your no fun. If this guy flips town kill hts You are wrong, SL. Wrong. | ||
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And that will be my last post. We are after EoD, I will wait for the night post. | ||
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On January 09 2015 10:49 Oatsmaster wrote: damn you mad liancourt. I think Parnassus is actually a good lynch lol. I see he voted for himself, but aside from that, why? | ||
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Can you explain to me why you voted him D1? | ||
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On January 10 2015 08:03 sicklucker wrote: So last night I had hts/oats as scum. The nk makes sense for both of them and im glad bunnie had the same reads as me. WIFOM much? | ||
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On January 10 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote: When me and bunnies have the two same scum reads and were the town saviors ya. One of you has to die I won't speak for Oats, but from my perspective, that's what scum want other townies to think. (I still don't think you are town, but if you are, that's what they want you to think.) | ||
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Yes, I'm lurking, and it's largely because I'm playing in two games. I should not have signed up for two games, it is clear as water that I cannot handle playing in two games. I feel absolutely terrible for the townies that are trying to get something done. I am also sorry for any trouble caused to the moderators. One VT and a PR down, so getting me out will be another step closer to lylo. And considering the other game I'm in here we just got into lylo, my activity isn't going to get any better here. I have just PMed the moderators for a replacement, and I think I saw at least one that wanted to play after the game began, and there is one replacement (rsoultin). I would suggest any townie looking for an honest lynch look elsewhere until I am replaced. If I haven't been replaced by nightfall, and if the vigilante wants to deal with me then, I won't fault that person, but considering there are 1-2 replacements, I should be taken care of soon, hopefully before EoD. | ||
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On January 12 2015 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote: lol hts has more posts than like half the game and still thinks she cant handle it. right. Read my filter please, I was wagoned D1. Try again. | ||
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On January 12 2015 00:26 sicklucker wrote: Hts you had like 2-3 votes... That's besides the point to be honest. | ||
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I still think I'm having trouble reading every player I'm running into for the first time. Mderg just looked so bad to me the whole time, for example, it wasn't even funny. Pushing me for virtually no reason D1, I don't even. Oats lynch was just terrible, but it appears I knew his meta better than some others here. I've never played with Eden before, so I don't know his town game. I'm looking forward to Damdred's input though, even with the appropriate criticism. | ||
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That was another thing that threw me off :/ | ||
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On January 19 2015 00:41 liancourt wrote: [...] ...as town you played...chaotic. You are more suited to play as mafia than town. Your actions confuse town rather than help town read scum. I could understand why mafia shot a bulletless vig than a tracker. [...] My advice to you as a fellow player is to think about those 3 things and make your play less chaotic. 100% On January 19 2015 00:41 liancourt wrote: When I'm 100% sure of something i dont try to convince others just look at how i played in carol i was so sure of hf that I afked most of the time until he was finally lynched. At least I have a better idea now how you play. I know Bats voted you, but I wasn't going to meta you only playing with you one game. | ||
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On January 19 2015 00:45 Damdred wrote: Blue play was all over the place this game. Ninjabunnies was really towny and got shot so no real way for me to say 27nb played badly as blue. Though I've been a blue before, how do you recommend blues play to stay unpredictable? It appears scum look for people hanging back, maybe this is why she was aggressive? I don't know Bunnies' meta, though...so if she was shot based on meta, well then... | ||
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