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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
January 18 2015 15:10 GMT
#1641
Sorry I shot my scum read and wasn't confortable on making a call on lala
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 18 2015 15:16 GMT
#1642
Also, sicklucker, why in the actual fuck did you tunnel me D1 again?

That was another thing that threw me off :/
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
January 18 2015 15:41 GMT
#1643
On January 18 2015 23:53 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 11:58 liancourt wrote:
i played my worst game of mafia.

i should really try and convince ppl next time...maybe not


I pretty much just got mad at you for not helping me two games inarow and bet you for no reason -_-


I'm not a good mafia player by all means, someone said there are 3 elements to being a good mafia player.

1. Having good reads.
2. Convincing others.
3. Surviving lynches.

I'm not very good at #2 and when I do try to convince others I die really early which is prolly why i dont try lol

After watching you play for 3 games...carol, imperial, this game...as town you played...chaotic. You are more suited to play as mafia than town. Your actions confuse town rather than help town read scum. I could understand why mafia shot a bulletless vig than a tracker. The thing that I really didnt understand was that you townread me and you even tracked me, but somehow ended up voting me at the end. I knew mderg was town by the way he was posting on the last day so I wasn't going to switch votes to save myself and I was 100% sure of eden being mafia. When I'm 100% sure of something i dont try to convince others just look at how i played in carol i was so sure of hf that I afked most of the time until he was finally lynched. My advice to you as a fellow player is to think about those 3 things and make your play less chaotic. And I guess i should try and convince others more of my reads...maybe not...depends.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 18 2015 15:45 GMT
#1644
Host Thoughts:

The setup was basically town one shot vig, town tracker and town JK. Versus roleblocker framer and goon. The mafia setup basically was a bit wifom, it meant they would think a cop was in the game and everyone would have to be active night Joe giving the tracker a chance to catch something going on. The town side was a little weak but I think it was balanced for what was in mind.

Blue play:

Blue play was all over the place this game. Ninjabunnies was really towny and got shot so no real way for me to say 27nb played badly as blue.
Lightning did an ok job as big, day one he wanted to shoot Sl, then another brownie and finally he held hi a shot for more information. He then shot his top Scum read which was the eight thing, he shot mafia. He was confirmed and was then shot. He did an ok job as a blue.
SL did a fairly poor job, he was off in who he chose. From my vantage points he had great information in how to stop a mismatch, but seemed to keep oats and lian in his Scum list and voting one instead of clearing them. Information was misued.

Mafia play:

Mafia play wasn't that bad it was a bit lackluster overall. But they weren't really made to play. Night one kill was a great blue snipe after that they just did what they had to while nobody really paid much attention to them.

Town play:

Town play was pretty bad, when I spoke to oh I after the game he was really frustrated with how information was so lacking in the thread. It really was hard for any conversation to get going and it was all on town not mafia. The environment was ripe for mafia just to coast.

The oats lynch and lian lynch were the worst in the game. And mafia was given a lot of power to do whatever they wanted to around eod.

Haru, being called confirmed town really was a head scratcher. I really think people try to confirm people on insignificant things. He wasn't confirmed and was never pushed again, he did the right thing town did not.

Overall town was never active enough and always pushes things really weird. Misused information to help mafia and really stunk. But thanks for playing the game
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 18 2015 15:47 GMT
#1645
You should lian you had the game basically solves. You just need to scream more hammer time
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-18 15:50:54
January 18 2015 15:50 GMT
#1646
On January 19 2015 00:41 liancourt wrote:
[...] ...as town you played...chaotic. You are more suited to play as mafia than town. Your actions confuse town rather than help town read scum. I could understand why mafia shot a bulletless vig than a tracker.
[...]
My advice to you as a fellow player is to think about those 3 things and make your play less chaotic.


100%

On January 19 2015 00:41 liancourt wrote:
When I'm 100% sure of something i dont try to convince others just look at how i played in carol i was so sure of hf that I afked most of the time until he was finally lynched.


At least I have a better idea now how you play. I know Bats voted you, but I wasn't going to meta you only playing with you one game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 18 2015 15:53 GMT
#1647
On January 19 2015 00:45 Damdred wrote:
Blue play was all over the place this game. Ninjabunnies was really towny and got shot so no real way for me to say 27nb played badly as blue.


Though I've been a blue before, how do you recommend blues play to stay unpredictable? It appears scum look for people hanging back, maybe this is why she was aggressive? I don't know Bunnies' meta, though...so if she was shot based on meta, well then...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
January 18 2015 15:59 GMT
#1648
On January 19 2015 00:47 Damdred wrote:
You should lian you had the game basically solves. You just need to scream more hammer time


remember i was playing voice lol
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
January 18 2015 16:19 GMT
#1649
I hope I did 27NB proud for following her footsteps of shooting Breshke.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
January 18 2015 16:33 GMT
#1650
On January 19 2015 00:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 00:45 Damdred wrote:
Blue play was all over the place this game. Ninjabunnies was really towny and got shot so no real way for me to say 27nb played badly as blue.


Though I've been a blue before, how do you recommend blues play to stay unpredictable? It appears scum look for people hanging back, maybe this is why she was aggressive? I don't know Bunnies' meta, though...so if she was shot based on meta, well then...


If you play differently when you're blue, you have already lost the game.

You must play exactly the same as when you're playing VT. Convince yourself that blue is just VT with a chance to kill mafia/avoid lynches better.

NB was shot because she would affect the balance the least. she isn't part of SL/HTS tunnel, etc. other interactions.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
January 18 2015 16:33 GMT
#1651
On January 18 2015 23:57 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 18:10 HaruRH wrote:
yea, town somehow gave me a free pass for breshke's action, which caused me to be town?

We have planned some stuff for d2, but we weren't sure if vig or cop was present. We had a framer, so we assumed it would be cop over vig, and breshke can red check me while eden frames him innocent.

In any case, things somehow turned out mafia favored and we were given the win without needing to do anything much (except eden carrying us)

We killed LS not because he was good, but to stop people from PoEing us. Nobody had doubts that LS was the vig, but SL's claim got more absurd and unbelievable.


Oh so your a smurf or something? Yes that was my goal alot of people were just in a game with me where I fakeclaimed as vt. That and I really didnt care I was some role that rarely ever finds anything. Well I did find out breske was mafia unfortunately are roles stacked there.


hahaha don't ever claim for no reason. You just fuck up town if you do that.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 18 2015 16:38 GMT
#1652
Tracker is strong if you read the game and apply the information correctly which wasn't done.

liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
January 18 2015 17:02 GMT
#1653
I hate myself this game I played bloody poorly. I know I shouldnt have believed that lala was confirmed town. I even said it in imperial obs that town shouldn't believe in confirmed town unless they are flipped or checked...lol i'm such a noob. It's so different when you're playing and obsing. SL had me on that one, i really didn't understand how lala could be confirmed town based on votes. And then the hard hard HARD REALLY Stiffy defense from eden on lala kinda sold me on that one. That was when I was still townreading him so fuck me lol. When I started to read hi8m as scum I began to realize that lala could be mafia too, but then the game was in lylo and I was afk and I had no will to convince town that eden was scum. lala and eden both townread each other wow.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
January 18 2015 17:04 GMT
#1654
Damdred where is the scum qt and obs qt? I didn't get the obs qt when I died
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 18 2015 17:08 GMT
#1655
There wasn't not much of a obs but I'll ask tr to post the mafia qt
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 18 2015 19:07 GMT
#1656
The problem with a watcher is if you search a scum read and theres no action theres still like a decent chance their scum.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 18 2015 19:09 GMT
#1657
I agree Im terrible at town and I dont enjoy playing it. Why cant i roll mafia more
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 18 2015 19:11 GMT
#1658
On January 19 2015 00:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Also, sicklucker, why in the actual fuck did you tunnel me D1 again?

That was another thing that threw me off :/


You played really bad and put scum on a thing that should have told you im town (the ls thing) from are meta.

I was thrown off by your effort in game number 2 compaired to game number 1 mostly
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
February 23 2015 16:59 GMT
#1659
Anyone happen to know if lalalipop or Eden1892 was the framer?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 23 2015 17:11 GMT
#1660
Eden was le framer I believe
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