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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 03:40 GMT
#823
On January 11 2015 12:38 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 12:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh my only gut feeling about HTS is mainly the fact she is never around this game compared to the other game she is playing and just seems to glide by this game. Also sicklucker I wanted people to figure out you are a miller by themselves -.-


This is a bad reason generally people who are playing two games focus on the first game. I know this because its true for me as well. So ill defend hts on this point

Fair enough.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 03:44 GMT
#825
A tiny bit. You normally have the weirdest Day 1s tbh with you so I wouldn't of been surprised people couldn't read you well Day 1 which for once I couldn't.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 03:58 GMT
#828
On January 11 2015 12:55 Eden1892 wrote:
Has anything happened since my last work shift started beyond sicklucker and LightningStrike trying to stir up bullshit power role WIFOM that no mafia will ever pay attention to?

It was sicklucker who started it tbh with you idk why he started it either.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 17:38 GMT
#900
Honestly HTS would be a policy lynch if anything at this point so we should find a different lynch at this point.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 18:26 GMT
#906
Honestly I have no idea who to lynch at this point and we don't got any real cases :| Also bats if you are here can you talk to us please?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 19:13 GMT
#908
On January 12 2015 04:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why LS, drp?

I don't really suspect him much at all tbh.

I said I have no idea who to lynch you thinking of someone else lol.....
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 19:14 GMT
#909
On January 12 2015 04:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 04:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why LS, drp?

I don't really suspect him much at all tbh.

I said I have no idea who to lynch you thinking of someone else lol.....

Ops ignore me I misread your post lol....
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 19:49 GMT
#912
Ya I didn't read it good till after I posted that :O
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 21:06 GMT
#943
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.


Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 21:12 GMT
#952
On January 12 2015 06:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.


Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?


I see reasonable doubt in my case which is why I'm not pushing him.

I don't see how your second point matters.

Meta wise Lian as town would make these annoying ass spoilered posts and made it hard for me to read his thoughts but this game he haven't.
##Vote: Lian
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 21:15 GMT
#955
On January 12 2015 06:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.


Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?


I see reasonable doubt in my case which is why I'm not pushing him.

I don't see how your second point matters.

Meta wise Lian as town would make these annoying ass spoilered posts and made it hard for me to read his thoughts but this game he haven't.
##Vote: Lian


So he's mafia for making his own posts easier to read?

He's mafia because of meta at least in my eyes. Also seemed to get ticked off a little bit easier this game than in Carol too.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 21:17 GMT
#958
On January 12 2015 06:16 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.


Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?


I see reasonable doubt in my case which is why I'm not pushing him.

I don't see how your second point matters.

Meta wise Lian as town would make these annoying ass spoilered posts and made it hard for me to read his thoughts but this game he haven't.
##Vote: Lian


So he's mafia for making his own posts easier to read?

He's mafia because of meta at least in my eyes. Also seemed to get ticked off a little bit easier this game than in Carol too.

That's some really flawed meta, though. I can definitely see lian being mafia but not for that.

Okay so how would you see Lian as Mafia?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 21:18 GMT
#961
On January 12 2015 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.


Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?


I see reasonable doubt in my case which is why I'm not pushing him.

I don't see how your second point matters.

Meta wise Lian as town would make these annoying ass spoilered posts and made it hard for me to read his thoughts but this game he haven't.
##Vote: Lian


Really?

So he's mafia for making his own posts easier to read?

He's mafia because of meta at least in my eyes. Also seemed to get ticked off a little bit easier this game than in Carol too.


Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 11:38 liancourt wrote:
i dont have to explain anyhting to you

you won't even vote hf

i refuse to explain myself until hf is dead

i am so mad at town i'm having hissyfit.

i literally do not care what town thinks of me at all.

come at me bro

fite me

lynch me kill me

just lynch hf and i will discuss bloody everything

why is that so hard

why is he alive until now?

why is town so stupid voting tube

why didnt i wake up an hour earlier to push hf.

it was 5 4 5

so you know how close that vote was it was a 3 way

omg

hf and temp wont die

me gb ff sl wont die

ras is so bad at town that he wont die

xat oats potential scum wont die

ls vivax claimed? lol does it matter?

hts? who the hell is this guy he has absolutley no thread presence he'll die like a random kill like the way frog died.

scum hunting nigella, hts is nigella confirmed?

nigella dont u dare protect me tonight i will slap u

i will die knowing i got scum team right

nigella dont u dare protect claimed cos scum knows you'll protect them.

nigella dont u dare prtect anyone

i hated nigella lawson. jamie oliver was so much better


That was one of his post he didn't spoilered but this game he didn't even spoilered a single post.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 21:24 GMT
#968
On January 12 2015 06:20 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:16 mderg wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.


Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?


I see reasonable doubt in my case which is why I'm not pushing him.

I don't see how your second point matters.

Meta wise Lian as town would make these annoying ass spoilered posts and made it hard for me to read his thoughts but this game he haven't.
##Vote: Lian


So he's mafia for making his own posts easier to read?

He's mafia because of meta at least in my eyes. Also seemed to get ticked off a little bit easier this game than in Carol too.

That's some really flawed meta, though. I can definitely see lian being mafia but not for that.

Okay so how would you see Lian as Mafia?


Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 15:45 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 09 2015 08:04 Trfel wrote:
Final Vote Count Day 1

LightningStrike (0): liancourt
sicklucker (0): Eden1892, Breshke
liancourt (0): mderg
VayneAuthority (8): liancourt, Half the Sky, Oatsmaster, LightningStrike, batsnacks, ObiWanShinobi, Breshke, lalipop, Eden1892
Oatsmaster (1): 27ninjabunnies
Half the Sky (3): mderg, sicklucker, DrParnassus, lalipop
27ninjabunnies (0): DrParnassus, DrParnassus

Currently, VayneAuthority is set to be lynched with 5 votes.

until deadline.

First thought is LOL at trying to do vca on this. Two wagons, one town, the other unknown, clear majority, only outlier vote is confirmed town b/c she was shot right afterward. No layups

In situations like these where the main wagon is town and we don't know the other wagon, we first want to look at the rationale people gave for their votes. The first person I notice is myself, because I didn't give any, because I'm a donkey and I slept through EOD and only managed to slap a fast vote down to avoid mod sanction. No johns, I suck, sorry guys.

Instead I'm going to look at the other people who coasted on the lead wagon.

First is liancourt. Most of his d1 posting by far is pushing LightningStrike, then ObiWanShinobi. Then he ends up voting with both on VayneAuthority, because VA wasn't trying d1. This is an odd sequence of events to me because (1) I don't think that's the strongest case to be made on VA and (2) liancourt claims to have only given up on pushing LS and Obi because the pushes weren't getting traction, which should mean he didn't stop suspecting them, and yet he ends up voting for the same guy as them. I know that even if I had failed to convince people to kill my suspects, two of them voting together on someone would have given me a great deal of pause. liancourt just lets the kill happen.

Second is Oatsmaster, his case on Vayne is also not the correct case IMO. It's weird that it's the opposite of liancourt's, and that in the course of discussing this read neither one of them ended up arguing with the other about it. I guess maybe he didn't have to push as hard because Vayne became the lynch fairly quick, but it seems like he pretty much parked his vote and left.

===

Other notes:

- sicklucker and LightningStrike are probably town, they've both been pretty active and have pushed their lynch hard. I don't think either of the cases they made on their targets d1 were actually good, but I think they were genuine, which is all I need to see to make a read.

- Half the Sky looks reasonably good to me as well. The one thing irking me a bit is that she read me as town for making a "detailed case" on Vayne when I don't remember ever doing so, but it's obvious she cares about the direction of the game. Her interaction with sicklucker about the past game seems sincere enough - I know it's not directly relevant to this game, but I think the entire conversation reads town, go open her filter and find that bit and read for yourselves so you can see what I mean - and she's been rather open with her thoughts.

- batsnacks is sorta vulnerable to the same logic that implicates liancourt, but batsnacks still pushed reasonably hard on Obi while voting Vayne and tried to get a last-minute vote on Obi instead of Vayne. This strikes me as more of what I'd expect a townie to do if his primary suspect were off the table: go after a secondary one while taking his chances at getting the primary suspect killed instead. I also think he's been a lot more forthright and sincere than liancourt, so I find myself okay with batsnacks, even though to some extent he does the same thing that liancourt does.

- Obi already called out liancourt for the big thing I noticed earlier, so he's town in my mind for now. Obi does end up criticizing the VA lynch while staying on it, but if you read his filter it seems fairly clear that he got caught with insufficient time to figure out anything else to do due to out-of-game constraints. It's not like he peaced out from the thread and coasted. I can give him a pass on that.

===

That's all I feel like doing right now, I'll do more later on but this seems good enough to start with.

Town: me, Obi, HTS, SL, LS, bats
Mafia: Oats, lian
TBD: Breshke, lollipop, derg, Doc


Fair enough.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 21:30 GMT
#975
On January 12 2015 06:29 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.


Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?


I see reasonable doubt in my case which is why I'm not pushing him.

I don't see how your second point matters.

Meta wise Lian as town would make these annoying ass spoilered posts and made it hard for me to read his thoughts but this game he haven't.
##Vote: Lian


Really?

So he's mafia for making his own posts easier to read?

He's mafia because of meta at least in my eyes. Also seemed to get ticked off a little bit easier this game than in Carol too.


On December 20 2014 11:38 liancourt wrote:
i dont have to explain anyhting to you

you won't even vote hf

i refuse to explain myself until hf is dead

i am so mad at town i'm having hissyfit.

i literally do not care what town thinks of me at all.

come at me bro

fite me

lynch me kill me

just lynch hf and i will discuss bloody everything

why is that so hard

why is he alive until now?

why is town so stupid voting tube

why didnt i wake up an hour earlier to push hf.

it was 5 4 5

so you know how close that vote was it was a 3 way

omg

hf and temp wont die

me gb ff sl wont die

ras is so bad at town that he wont die

xat oats potential scum wont die

ls vivax claimed? lol does it matter?

hts? who the hell is this guy he has absolutley no thread presence he'll die like a random kill like the way frog died.

scum hunting nigella, hts is nigella confirmed?

nigella dont u dare protect me tonight i will slap u

i will die knowing i got scum team right

nigella dont u dare protect claimed cos scum knows you'll protect them.

nigella dont u dare prtect anyone

i hated nigella lawson. jamie oliver was so much better


That was one of his post he didn't spoilered but this game he didn't even spoilered a single post.


I don't think that's a good reason to vote someone. :/

Also I using Eden's post about Lian as part of my reasoning to vote for Lian.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 21:34 GMT
#977
On January 12 2015 06:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't know who to vote.

Vote who you think is scum.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 21:48 GMT
#994
I voting Oats because it's to little time to get tracation on my scum read and Oats I had Null since about N1 after the flip.
##Unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 21:49 GMT
#996
Obi now isn't the time for that. We can go for him tomorrow if he doesn't die tonight.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 22:09 GMT
#1015
Crap..................
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 11 2015 22:20 GMT
#1021
The Slacker is a Miller OWS.
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