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lalalipop
Profile Joined January 2015
56 Posts
January 13 2015 07:47 GMT
#1101
Wow we shot mafia.

Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 08:35 GMT
#1102
On January 13 2015 07:47 sicklucker wrote:
Ya sure. Im pretty sure town has auto ty Ls. We have 3 kills. We kill mderg, eden and dr/ We win the game
loli is probably town because breske didnt vote oats. Roles should claim

Town
Bats
lian
loli
Ls

Unkowns
eden
dr
mderg

This list is not good. I think liancourt is mafia. Case incoming.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 08:48 GMT
#1103
So like I said before, back on day 1 liancourt pushed LS and Obi then voted with them on Vayne. Quoting my post on the subject from n1:

First is liancourt. Most of his d1 posting by far is pushing LightningStrike, then ObiWanShinobi. Then he ends up voting with both on VayneAuthority, because VA wasn't trying d1. This is an odd sequence of events to me because (1) I don't think that's the strongest case to be made on VA and (2) liancourt claims to have only given up on pushing LS and Obi because the pushes weren't getting traction, which should mean he didn't stop suspecting them, and yet he ends up voting for the same guy as them. I know that even if I had failed to convince people to kill my suspects, two of them voting together on someone would have given me a great deal of pause. liancourt just lets the kill happen.


liancourt never had a satisfactory reply to this, which I think is pretty damning on its own.

It's even more damning when we look at the Day 2 vote count.

On January 12 2015 06:58 Trfel wrote:
Final Vote Count Day 2

ObiWanShinobi (0): batsnacks, lalipop
Half the Sky (0): sicklucker, DrParnassus, mderg
LightningStrike (1): liancourt, batsnacks, Breshke
lalipop (4): liancourt, Breshke, sicklucker, DrParnassus, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892, batsnacks
DrParnassus (2): Oatsmaster, liancourt, lalipop
Oatsmaster (4): Eden1892, mderg, Eden1892, lalipop, LightningStrike, Breshke
liancourt (0): LightningStrike, lalipop

Oatsmaster has been lynched!


Presuming for the moment that lalalipop is town, we have two town wagons at the end of d2, and liancourt is... voting for DrParnassus. Who he literally discusses once in d2 (calls DrP unmemorable). I'm serious, read his filter, that's it. He doesn't even say he voted for DrP. He said he was going to RNG vote sicklucker, and I'm not sure if that was a joke or something he intended to do but didn't, because he doesn't say anything else about his suspects that day. He certainly doesn't push DrP. He just wastes his vote on an outlier for a reason that sounds good, but instead of pushing that good reason to get a lynch he just... does nothing.

##VOTE: liancourt
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 08:56 GMT
#1104
Other stuff:

- LightningStrike confirmed town.
- lalalipop is almost certainly town. Breshke would have voted Oatsmaster if lalalipop were mafia; attracting attention to himself by blatantly dodging the two wagons just doesn't make any sense for him to do. You either vote Oatsmaster to save your partner or you vote lalalipop to get towncred for the bus, you don't pick some middle route that doesn't affect anything. Him doing so only makes sense if lalalipop was also town and neither wagon looked good for a mafia to jump on.
- DrP, mderg and batsnacks are the only other ones left. batsnacks left me with some townie vibes on d1, I haven't gotten a great impression from any of the 3 since (but admittedly I haven't paid much attention). I'll read them and try to narrow this down.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 13 2015 12:50 GMT
#1105
Real talk: I thought breshke was the cop because of Trfel's post about town missing a night action n1.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2015 12:54 GMT
#1106
So as I see it the people who want to lynch me do so because I was wrong on HTS and oats. I can only assume so for lian since he hasn't even given a reason for that. What's ironic about that is that lian was wrong D1 and wasted his vote on drp D2 while sicklucker was wrong on HTS and most likely wrong D2. That already makes for some pretty solid evidence against me.

Also assuming that lalalipop is town which is very likely my play on D2 would make absolutely no sense from a scum perspective. Imagine a scum sees that a townie in lalalipop is getting lynched. Of course the first thought that comes to mind is pushing for a lynch on a different townie in oats and get him lynched. Of course scum would do that because there's no way that I'm held responsible for that. If lalalipop was scum, my play would certainly be sensible scumplay but as luck has it Breshke got shot and pretty much confirmed lalalipop as town. This means that as scum I'd have risked being held responsible for a mislynch instead of just quietly sitting on a town wagon with little to no opposition. That would just be stupid play.


As a side note: Having had a scumread on Breshke after that stunt he pulled in no way makes anyone town. Breshke would have been a very obvious lynch and thus an obvious bus.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 13 2015 13:46 GMT
#1107
On January 13 2015 21:50 batsnacks wrote:
Real talk: I thought breshke was the cop because of Trfel's post about town missing a night action n1.

Ya it was me not shooting anyone on Day 1.
Okay guys I think maybe we should look at the filter of Breshke to figure out who would most likely be his partners since he is confirmed mafia by looking at his interactions with other players.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 13 2015 14:39 GMT
#1108
well mderg if breskes not shot people probably just lazyly vote lolipop tormorow so you could say mafias setting up two mislynches.

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 13 2015 15:04 GMT
#1109
So eden from your pov your 3 kills are bats , lian and mderg? Lets just kill mderg first? If we miss on mderg that means the mafia team has to be one of bats/lian or you/dr

Why dont you just want to kill mderg first. Is it because hes your mafia partner?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 13 2015 15:06 GMT
#1110
So this is my strategy right now.

Kill Mderg if hes a hit we kill both of eden. lian and we win close to 100&
Kill mderg if hes a miss we choose between a mafia team of eden/dr or bats/lian and we kill one world
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2015 15:17 GMT
#1111
On January 13 2015 23:39 sicklucker wrote:
well mderg if breskes not shot people probably just lazyly vote lolipop tormorow so you could say mafias setting up two mislynches.


Would it not be much easier to just let lalalipop get lynched first without getting too much attention and after that getting the mislynch on oats? It's just much less risky to not start the wagon on oats in that position.

You're way too focused on killing me for pretty much just having wrong scumreads. It makes no sense at all.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 13 2015 15:40 GMT
#1112
Mderg who do you want to kill? Dont be gunshy now
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2015 15:45 GMT
#1113
I would kill lian
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 13 2015 16:06 GMT
#1114
Anyway im the vet. Hurray! The roleblockers dead so im immortal. Since im the third power role its safe to say any other claim will be mafia. I was trying to bait a claim but I dont think its coming.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 13 2015 16:08 GMT
#1115
On January 13 2015 17:48 Eden1892 wrote:
So like I said before, back on day 1 liancourt pushed LS and Obi then voted with them on Vayne. Quoting my post on the subject from n1:

Show nested quote +
First is liancourt. Most of his d1 posting by far is pushing LightningStrike, then ObiWanShinobi. Then he ends up voting with both on VayneAuthority, because VA wasn't trying d1. This is an odd sequence of events to me because (1) I don't think that's the strongest case to be made on VA and (2) liancourt claims to have only given up on pushing LS and Obi because the pushes weren't getting traction, which should mean he didn't stop suspecting them, and yet he ends up voting for the same guy as them. I know that even if I had failed to convince people to kill my suspects, two of them voting together on someone would have given me a great deal of pause. liancourt just lets the kill happen.


liancourt never had a satisfactory reply to this, which I think is pretty damning on its own.

It's even more damning when we look at the Day 2 vote count.

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:58 Trfel wrote:
Final Vote Count Day 2

ObiWanShinobi (0): batsnacks, lalipop
Half the Sky (0): sicklucker, DrParnassus, mderg
LightningStrike (1): liancourt, batsnacks, Breshke
lalipop (4): liancourt, Breshke, sicklucker, DrParnassus, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892, batsnacks
DrParnassus (2): Oatsmaster, liancourt, lalipop
Oatsmaster (4): Eden1892, mderg, Eden1892, lalipop, LightningStrike, Breshke
liancourt (0): LightningStrike, lalipop

Oatsmaster has been lynched!


Presuming for the moment that lalalipop is town, we have two town wagons at the end of d2, and liancourt is... voting for DrParnassus. Who he literally discusses once in d2 (calls DrP unmemorable). I'm serious, read his filter, that's it. He doesn't even say he voted for DrP. He said he was going to RNG vote sicklucker, and I'm not sure if that was a joke or something he intended to do but didn't, because he doesn't say anything else about his suspects that day. He certainly doesn't push DrP. He just wastes his vote on an outlier for a reason that sounds good, but instead of pushing that good reason to get a lynch he just... does nothing.

##VOTE: liancourt

I can back you up after reading Lian's filter he never mention lynching DrP and was going to RNG vote sicklucker but he went to vote for DrP instead without explaination. I think this case is pretty damn good for today!
##Vote: Liancourt
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2015 16:25 GMT
#1116
Here's a list of things that make lian scum:

- being a dick on purpose early in the game
- on day1 voting VA despite his two other scumreads also being on the wagon
- on day2 voting drp without even mentioning him beforehand
- repeatedly complaining about inactivity and lack of effort while not really doing much himself
- wanting to lynch me without giving any reasoning at all
- Breshke did defend him earlier

Maybe I missed some things but I think that's enough to call him scum.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 13 2015 16:26 GMT
#1117
I also think a wagon on him is the best chance of not getting lynched myself

##vote liancourt
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 13 2015 16:38 GMT
#1118
On January 14 2015 01:06 sicklucker wrote:
Anyway im the vet. Hurray! The roleblockers dead so im immortal. Since im the third power role its safe to say any other claim will be mafia. I was trying to bait a claim but I dont think its coming.


There isn't a vet?
lalalipop
Profile Joined January 2015
56 Posts
January 13 2015 16:40 GMT
#1119
I just got on and now everyone agrees I'm town?

I'm still up to kill lian btw, he is still one of my top scumreads.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 13 2015 16:41 GMT
#1120
##vote: sicklucker

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