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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 21:05 GMT
#1189
quote for reference:
On January 14 2015 02:38 batsnacks wrote:
I don't believe that breshke rbed obiwan. There is nothing believable about SL's claim(s) and it is intensely irritating because he's probably town.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 21:19 GMT
#1191
Prayers sent for your 24-hour shift
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 21:20 GMT
#1192
You're gonna need to explain the DrP thing when you get a chance though. I'm lenient about work johns because I often have them myself but before EOD pls
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 22:06 GMT
#1202
On January 14 2015 06:35 batsnacks wrote:
DrP because it's d2 and I don't remember any of his posts or votes. Also breshke was lurky and playing really neutral too and I think they have that in common.

Who you want to lynch Eden?

liancourt AKA the guy I'm voting lol

On January 14 2015 06:55 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:03 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:02 sicklucker wrote:
That has nothing to with what I said about mderg eden. Mderg asked why he would switched his vote from loli to oats.

That doesn't actually explain why he would switch the vote though. You realize this, right?

What is your actual case on mderg? I asked you for this earlier.


poe

Eh. I could kill him by POE except that I have four POE targets and only 3 lynches. I would rather liancourt or batsnacks because I think they're mafia for reasons already stated.

And POE is fine and all, but I don't actually know why you townread anyone except yourself, LightningStrike and lalalipop, so I can't really sign off on that. Especially since the two people I think are actually mafia are in your town pile...

On January 14 2015 06:55 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:05 Eden1892 wrote:
Would also appreciate your thoughts on liancourt and especially batsnacks. I just noticed on rereading that he explicitly says you're "probably town" but then is throwing his vote away on you instead of voting for liancourt or mderg. How does a townie do this?


hes retarded

I don't buy it, batsnacks isn't a bad player
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 22:17 GMT
#1207
On January 14 2015 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
What is POE? I never heard the term before that's all.

Process Of Elimination

Later in the game you can often figure out how to win the game not by finding and killing mafia suspects but by finding and not killing people you believe are town. As an example, supposing sicklucker is right about his reads, he has 5 townies out of 8 alive: himself, you, lalalipop, liancourt and batsnacks. That leaves 3 people, 2 of which are mafia. We have one mislynch left, so he can afford to miss once, and because we assume he's right about his reads, he can kill the 3 people who are still possibly mafia by POE and win.

It's a pretty cool thing except when your town reads are wrong. I think sicklucker's reads on liancourt and batsnacks are wrong, so I really don't want to POE-lynch his list. Likewise, because I only have 4 town (you, sicklucker, lalalipop and me), I can't just POE-lynch my list, because we have only one ML and, assuming I'm right about my town reads, two town in my POE list.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 22:17 GMT
#1208
On January 14 2015 07:11 batsnacks wrote:
Here's a lazy case on LS that people should criticize me for:

  1. Breshke mentions and interacts with LS the least out of anyone in his filter.
  2. LS likes to sheep when he's scum.
  3. LS sheeped the vayne case.
  4. SEE BELOW the progression of LS's read on oats



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On January 08 2015 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
For now I town reading Oats and Lian since Oats seemed much more like himself from Student Mafia IV and Lian posts being genuine about his stuff on me. I finding that sicklucker early town read kind of questionable because I not done anything townie yet he giving me a very early town read. Unless he's basing off of meta he should have no reason to town read me this early.

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On January 09 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
27ninjabunnies you know better than that. We not lynching Oats until Day 2 or 3 if we suspect he is scum but for now I town reading him for the fact he pretty much acting like how he did in Student Mafia IV where he was VT.
Here is his filter from that game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=Oatsmaster

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On January 09 2015 04:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 09 2015 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
Whatever nothing va has done really makes him mafia. Your basically doing a rng lynch on someone who you dont want to play with. Can we sheep me?

Ugh it's a meta case by my biggest town read in Oats and Oats said that VA doesn't play or try at Day 1 as town.

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On January 09 2015 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 09 2015 06:54 Half the Sky wrote:
Second half for you Bats

liancourt - I'm going to say null leaning town as he picked apart LS.

batsnacks - I have misread you in both my games so far. I'm going to say null and here's why.
Your thoughts on VA meta and willing to consider my reads, right now, but I don't understand what happened with you and OWS earlier. I also don't understand why you discouraged a vote on VA and then turned around and voted him after he complained on the community.

lalalipop - null, came in a bit late. May not be understanding the context of my post to scumread me the way he is.

LightningStrike - null leaning scum, quite a bit of fluff and didn't seem to be too interested in finding targets.

Oatsmaster - null leaning town. Not posting a whole lot, but based on meta, he is acting the same way that he is when he was VT in Student Mafia.

I found a target from one of my town reads. My target is VA right now and my BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGG town read is Oatsmaster this game.

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On January 09 2015 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 09 2015 06:56 Breshke wrote:
On January 09 2015 06:56 sicklucker wrote:
breske will you join us and ruin someones day?


Dude i still have my doubts about you. Will probably follow bats though

Follow me and Oats bro?

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On January 10 2015 01:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 10 2015 00:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On January 10 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
27NB can you give me your reads when you done reading Day 1 please?


Well I can tell you this immediately.
On January 09 2015 01:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
If I do get lynched, I would go for lightningstrike next, his vote on me makes no sense as I was against liancourt who was pushing him. A simple inconsistency that many new players make.


What was with that vote on VA?

You basically sheeped claiming you trust others reads?

Explain a little please.

I was trusting Oats meta read on VA saying that VA doesn't try Day 1 as town and we already saw what happened. I still town reading Oats based on his play on Student but that lynch might make Oats a little icky.

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On January 12 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote:
I voting Oats because it's to little time to get tracation on my scum read and Oats I had Null since about N1 after the flip.
##Unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster



Above are LS's posts about oats in order from earliest to most recent. LS originally town read oats because of meta, which I pointed out at the time was useless because oats plays exactly the same every game. Notice oats going from LS's "BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGG town read [sic]" to null in an instant, then LS votes him.

So LS is mafia.

I'm convinced

vote batsnacks
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 22:18 GMT
#1210
For real though do something pls
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 22:23 GMT
#1214
On January 14 2015 07:20 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:18 Eden1892 wrote:
For real though do something pls


I can't do something if you're not receptive to the somethings I'm doing.

Well I'm not receptive to lynching the un-cc'd vig so
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 22:40 GMT
#1224
On January 14 2015 07:36 sicklucker wrote:
Like i dont get the bats or lian mafia case here. But bats is playing so bad I might have to vote him to save myself. you dont vote uncced roles everrrrr

1) "save yourself"? You're not in any danger that I see.
2) What don't you get about the cases? Be specific because I'm pretty sure I can convince you
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 22:47 GMT
#1234
On January 14 2015 07:45 sicklucker wrote:
Bats the mafia team is eden mderg and breske. This isint rocket science. At least in my world you and lian are so town that theres no other option.

Stop being a donkey and explain how batsnacks and liancourt are town and/or what problem you have with my case. You could be right on mderg (though you haven't proven anything about him) but I know you're wrong on me so you're wasting your margin of error on this nonsense.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 22:51 GMT
#1241
On January 14 2015 07:47 DrParnassus wrote:
sicklucker please explain the loli thing to me before I have to go

I'll do it instead since SL apparently isn't in an explaining mood.

If lalalipop is mafia then the d2 wagons were mafia/mafia. Oatsmaster only went on a late tiebreaker -- Breshke switching off of lalalipop onto a 3rd party. If Breshke and lalalipop are partners, Breshke probably isn't on lalalipop in the first place and he's definitely not switching to a 3rd party and hoping for no vote switches; he's moving onto Oatsmaster to ensure his teammate gets saved or, alternatively, he's not moving to get that bus cred.

So Breshke's vote move makes no sense if lalalipop is mafia, ergo lalalipop is town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 22:53 GMT
#1244
On January 14 2015 07:49 batsnacks wrote:
Eden what do you think about DrP?

Not much yet, his read on me is correct for the right reasons. I need to read more from him to be sure but I think if he's mafia it would be easy for him to just follow SL. Call him slight town until I get a chance to go over him again
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 23:00 GMT
#1246
On January 14 2015 07:56 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:53 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:49 batsnacks wrote:
Eden what do you think about DrP?

Not much yet, his read on me is correct for the right reasons. I need to read more from him to be sure but I think if he's mafia it would be easy for him to just follow SL. Call him slight town until I get a chance to go over him again


Follow SL? I think that's a -lot- harder than you're making it out to be.

but seriously

This means you think mderg is town or what? Why does mafia want to follow SL and not you?

Here's where I'm at right now:

- liancourt is mafia
- I thought you were mafia too but you're starting to care now, which is making me reconsider.
- If you're mafia then duh, everyone else is town, we can go home now.
- If you're town then DrP and mderg are the kills by POE.

Mafia wants to follow the un-cc'd pr over the vt, especially when aforesaid pr has had more thread presence this game thus far than the vt.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 14 2015 00:05 GMT
#1251
On January 14 2015 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 08:00 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:56 batsnacks wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:53 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:49 batsnacks wrote:
Eden what do you think about DrP?

Not much yet, his read on me is correct for the right reasons. I need to read more from him to be sure but I think if he's mafia it would be easy for him to just follow SL. Call him slight town until I get a chance to go over him again


Follow SL? I think that's a -lot- harder than you're making it out to be.

but seriously

This means you think mderg is town or what? Why does mafia want to follow SL and not you?

Here's where I'm at right now:

- liancourt is mafia
- I thought you were mafia too but you're starting to care now, which is making me reconsider.
- If you're mafia then duh, everyone else is town, we can go home now.
- If you're town then DrP and mderg are the kills by POE.

Mafia wants to follow the un-cc'd pr over the vt, especially when aforesaid pr has had more thread presence this game thus far than the vt.

Are you suggesting that I had a big ammount of thread presence even though I don't think I do?

Talking about sicklucker
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 14 2015 00:09 GMT
#1252
On January 14 2015 08:15 batsnacks wrote:
Okay you said lian is definitely mafia and your case is great (by far the best case there is right now other than my LS case), but here's the thing:

mderg AND DrP are both voting mderg, and there is no case on mderg. The only person who has bothered to give reasons for mderg being scum is lian.

Can you restate from "mderg AND DrP ..." for me? Didn't see mderg self voting

If you mean liancourt then shrug. Maybe they're busing maybe one of my town reads is wrong. Maybe you're mafia and in my head right now. When I'm not on mobile I'll think more on it, too busy ATM to think about it more than surface impressions
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 14 2015 00:56 GMT
#1254
Sicklucker what is your hangup with my case on liancourt?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 14 2015 01:08 GMT
#1256
On January 14 2015 10:05 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 09:56 Eden1892 wrote:
Sicklucker what is your hangup with my case on liancourt?


I mostly ignored it because I think your mafia and hes obv town? Ill give it a good read before vote time and all of lians filter which is really the only filter ive ignored for awhile.

How the hell is he obvious town?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 14 2015 02:07 GMT
#1258
On January 14 2015 10:49 sicklucker wrote:
He tried. No one else really did. He also lurked in his other mafia game. Will look into it more tormorow

He's tried less than I have and I wouldn't describe most of my d1-d2 play as trying very hard. You gotta be kiddin me brah.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 14 2015 02:13 GMT
#1261
Whatever, as long as most of the rest of the town can see reason, we can drag him kicking and screaming to a win. Wouldn't be the first time I've had to do that.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 14 2015 02:14 GMT
#1262
^above comment not specific to sicklucker but generalized
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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