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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 20:28 GMT
#270
Bats you gonna vote hts?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 20:29 GMT
#271
Like I HAVE NEVER EVER HAD A REAL DAY 1 READ. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD READ YOU SHOULD ALL SHEEP ME
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 20:41 GMT
#274
Hey bunnies if your veg again can you hit this obvious mafia because these guys are probably about to fight about stupid shit
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 21:50 GMT
#298
On January 08 2015 05:46 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 05:41 sicklucker wrote:
Hey bunnies if your veg again can you hit this obvious mafia because these guys are probably about to fight about stupid shit


Would everyone please stfu about me vegging?

Kthx. Not gonna happen this game.

I alway hit mafia as town, SL. You should know this by now.

The thing for me is, I really don't see your case on HTS.

I thought what she was doing was townie.


But its meta and I cant completely explain it because of an on going game. When Im confirmed town at some point remember to kill her
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 21:55 GMT
#299
like im just going to say it because it doesint affect the ongoing game. Ls claims vt like yesterday in a game. Hts ignores my rant to Ls about it and calls me scum. HTS is mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 22:05 GMT
#304
On January 08 2015 06:59 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 00:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On January 07 2015 14:21 Breshke wrote:
Being fully caught up why do you direct questions to three other people yet not me who you think is scum

Also lian did answer eventually

On January 07 2015 12:25 liancourt wrote:
On January 07 2015 12:20 Breshke wrote:
It was a bit less active at the start than i am used to but i have no reason to think this game will be harder than any other nor did i say it would be. Thats why im interested in why you think it will be harder?


More or less what u think

And the fact that there is no clear vet to lead town this game.

More defensive players than aggresive players


Not sure what was gotten out of delaying the answer so long and getting me to answer first though.


Oh, no. I noticed his answer, and I wholeheartedly agree that him answering was a complete delay.
Also, I was gonna follow up with a question on him on why he cared what you think, and why the information on how the game will be harder is even relevant in terms of finding scum.

I'm also disappointed in the fact that I was gone for 9 hours, and we only have one page of posts since.

Now Breshke. What is your view on Lian?

Do you agree with some of the cases that have been thrown around?


Meh, most of the cases on Lian are that he is acting differently to how he normally does and i have no idea if this is true or what it means because im too lazy to read past games. I don't understand why he is purposly acting like a dick because if he is town i don't think that's the way to go about getting people to listen to you but being a dick doesn't equal mafia. I do think he is town though because even though his case is shit on LS he seems to actually want people to comment on it and that feels town motivated to me. I am intrested to see what happens when he comes back to the thread though.

So i also think bunnies is town because the questions she has been asking while may not be like scum hunting are obviously there to get conversation flowing which is obviously something this game needs so im happy to call her town for now.

I was also liking Eden because he seemed to be on the same thought process as me about sicklucker but has seemingly flipped now for reasons that i feel are really weak.

Also sicklucker could you explain how you went from scum to null on LS (I've included your posts and the only one he made in between in the spoiler tag.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 08 2015 01:41 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
For now I town reading Oats and Lian since Oats seemed much more like himself from Student Mafia IV and Lian posts being genuine about his stuff on me. I finding that sicklucker early town read kind of questionable because I not done anything townie yet he giving me a very early town read. Unless he's basing off of meta he should have no reason to town read me this early.


I dont read you town man. Infact im scum reading you now for ignoring my qeustion


On January 08 2015 01:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:25 sicklucker wrote:
On January 07 2015 10:41 Breshke wrote:
On January 07 2015 10:21 sicklucker wrote:
I see a big leak in his town game. I roll town its a good time to fix that and increase my chances of winning If I roll scum I dont want him to know.

Its not tmi your over thinking it. There is like probably 11/14 chance hes town. Thats really good odds

He claimed his role in everyone of his 4 or 5 games. Its a very bad thing to do im trying to lead town to victory!

So lets go to bed and get fresh heads and not graph at straws. Goodnight


You can go to bed its fine don't feel like you need to stay here and interact theres plenty of time left but i have more to say.

On January 07 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
On January 07 2015 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 07 2015 07:01 sicklucker wrote:
You always out your role on game one, like in literally everygame. So please keep that to a mini Lmum its not good for town

I only soft claimed on Carol on Day 1 then Day 2 I hard claimed.


First game you claimed cop day1
second game you were mafia
third game you claimed a role on day 1. You were like barely a role
fourth game you claimed vt on day 1 (metal)
fifth game .........
your 6th game please dont do it thanks.

Coaching towns to victorys


Here you clearly say he doesn't claim in his second game and his claim in his first was completely justified because he was getting and still got lynched. So he hasn't claimed his role in every one of his games.

To me it looks like you tried to enter the thread by looking helpful with a warning to LS about something he most likely knows already. At not one point have you tried to work out alignments except saying ls has a 11/14 chance of being town . Even when i call you out you just call me terrible, am i terrible town or terrible mafia?



Hey Ls I know you dont know this so can you verify this is new information to you? Also the one game he didnt claim day 1 he was mafia. He claimed in 4/4 games as town on day 1. So ya I have good reasons to ask him not too. Yes game 1 was not his fault but it was 4/4

The only time I didn't claimed yes was I was scum but it because we killed both power roles in the first 36 hours of the game. Game 1 it was sort for telling them it was Detective not Cop but it was because I got the role pm saying it was Detective and I was getting lynched and had to claim. Yes I claimed 4/4 I soft claimed at Carol on Day 1 but my role wouldn't matter though as kush claimed Scrooge Day 1 and made me useless even if I wasn't roleblocked -_-.


On January 08 2015 01:49 sicklucker wrote:
Ok thats a good answer by Ls. back to null. Everyone thinking I townread ls is funny. All I did was coach him to not do a mistake he just admitted to doing in EVERYONE of his town games.

I dont know wtf he is but since im town I dont want him screwing up this one too if hes town.




He went a reread stuff and gave his usual cute defend everyone answer. But he did defend a confirmed mafia so your right it might be a bad read
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 22:07 GMT
#305
oh and Ls admitted he claimed day 1 in EVERYGAME which ddefends me and makes me obvious town to anyone with a brain
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 22:10 GMT
#307
Lian your case is a classic not knowing how ls plays which is why I usually end up defending him everygame hes town. Im not sure this game but theirs nothing in your case that makes me think hes mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 22:11 GMT
#308
I already explained breske stop being your usual scummy self plz
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 23:15 GMT
#320
On January 08 2015 07:14 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:05 sicklucker wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:59 Breshke wrote:
On January 08 2015 00:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On January 07 2015 14:21 Breshke wrote:
Being fully caught up why do you direct questions to three other people yet not me who you think is scum

Also lian did answer eventually

On January 07 2015 12:25 liancourt wrote:
On January 07 2015 12:20 Breshke wrote:
It was a bit less active at the start than i am used to but i have no reason to think this game will be harder than any other nor did i say it would be. Thats why im interested in why you think it will be harder?


More or less what u think

And the fact that there is no clear vet to lead town this game.

More defensive players than aggresive players


Not sure what was gotten out of delaying the answer so long and getting me to answer first though.


Oh, no. I noticed his answer, and I wholeheartedly agree that him answering was a complete delay.
Also, I was gonna follow up with a question on him on why he cared what you think, and why the information on how the game will be harder is even relevant in terms of finding scum.

I'm also disappointed in the fact that I was gone for 9 hours, and we only have one page of posts since.

Now Breshke. What is your view on Lian?

Do you agree with some of the cases that have been thrown around?


Meh, most of the cases on Lian are that he is acting differently to how he normally does and i have no idea if this is true or what it means because im too lazy to read past games. I don't understand why he is purposly acting like a dick because if he is town i don't think that's the way to go about getting people to listen to you but being a dick doesn't equal mafia. I do think he is town though because even though his case is shit on LS he seems to actually want people to comment on it and that feels town motivated to me. I am intrested to see what happens when he comes back to the thread though.

So i also think bunnies is town because the questions she has been asking while may not be like scum hunting are obviously there to get conversation flowing which is obviously something this game needs so im happy to call her town for now.

I was also liking Eden because he seemed to be on the same thought process as me about sicklucker but has seemingly flipped now for reasons that i feel are really weak.

Also sicklucker could you explain how you went from scum to null on LS (I've included your posts and the only one he made in between in the spoiler tag.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 08 2015 01:41 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
For now I town reading Oats and Lian since Oats seemed much more like himself from Student Mafia IV and Lian posts being genuine about his stuff on me. I finding that sicklucker early town read kind of questionable because I not done anything townie yet he giving me a very early town read. Unless he's basing off of meta he should have no reason to town read me this early.


I dont read you town man. Infact im scum reading you now for ignoring my qeustion


On January 08 2015 01:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:25 sicklucker wrote:
On January 07 2015 10:41 Breshke wrote:
On January 07 2015 10:21 sicklucker wrote:
I see a big leak in his town game. I roll town its a good time to fix that and increase my chances of winning If I roll scum I dont want him to know.

Its not tmi your over thinking it. There is like probably 11/14 chance hes town. Thats really good odds

He claimed his role in everyone of his 4 or 5 games. Its a very bad thing to do im trying to lead town to victory!

So lets go to bed and get fresh heads and not graph at straws. Goodnight


You can go to bed its fine don't feel like you need to stay here and interact theres plenty of time left but i have more to say.

On January 07 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
On January 07 2015 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 07 2015 07:01 sicklucker wrote:
You always out your role on game one, like in literally everygame. So please keep that to a mini Lmum its not good for town

I only soft claimed on Carol on Day 1 then Day 2 I hard claimed.


First game you claimed cop day1
second game you were mafia
third game you claimed a role on day 1. You were like barely a role
fourth game you claimed vt on day 1 (metal)
fifth game .........
your 6th game please dont do it thanks.

Coaching towns to victorys


Here you clearly say he doesn't claim in his second game and his claim in his first was completely justified because he was getting and still got lynched. So he hasn't claimed his role in every one of his games.

To me it looks like you tried to enter the thread by looking helpful with a warning to LS about something he most likely knows already. At not one point have you tried to work out alignments except saying ls has a 11/14 chance of being town . Even when i call you out you just call me terrible, am i terrible town or terrible mafia?



Hey Ls I know you dont know this so can you verify this is new information to you? Also the one game he didnt claim day 1 he was mafia. He claimed in 4/4 games as town on day 1. So ya I have good reasons to ask him not too. Yes game 1 was not his fault but it was 4/4

The only time I didn't claimed yes was I was scum but it because we killed both power roles in the first 36 hours of the game. Game 1 it was sort for telling them it was Detective not Cop but it was because I got the role pm saying it was Detective and I was getting lynched and had to claim. Yes I claimed 4/4 I soft claimed at Carol on Day 1 but my role wouldn't matter though as kush claimed Scrooge Day 1 and made me useless even if I wasn't roleblocked -_-.


On January 08 2015 01:49 sicklucker wrote:
Ok thats a good answer by Ls. back to null. Everyone thinking I townread ls is funny. All I did was coach him to not do a mistake he just admitted to doing in EVERYONE of his town games.

I dont know wtf he is but since im town I dont want him screwing up this one too if hes town.




He went a reread stuff and gave his usual cute defend everyone answer. But he did defend a confirmed mafia so your right it might be a bad read


You flipflop in this post.

How was he defending everyone? In the only post between your two posts where you change your read he only defends himself. Also how would you know if he reread stuff or not?


in another post his words were litteraly LEAVE HTS ALONE
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 07 2015 23:16 GMT
#321
On January 08 2015 08:01 liancourt wrote:
SL stop defending LS and being useless and find scum.

I want your opinion on obi


i found scum...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 08 2015 00:00 GMT
#325
On January 08 2015 08:26 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
On January 08 2015 08:01 liancourt wrote:
SL stop defending LS and being useless and find scum.

I want your opinion on obi


i found scum...


you have 0 thread presence

i dont even know what ur scum reads are


then your bad because I found one
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 08 2015 00:30 GMT
#330
On January 08 2015 09:16 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 09:00 sicklucker wrote:
On January 08 2015 08:26 liancourt wrote:
On January 08 2015 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
On January 08 2015 08:01 liancourt wrote:
SL stop defending LS and being useless and find scum.

I want your opinion on obi


i found scum...


you have 0 thread presence

i dont even know what ur scum reads are


then your bad because I found one


Are you pushing ur scum read?

I havent seen u put any fucking effort in

I'm pushing my read on LS and agreeing with bats on obi, but what are you exactly doing?


ARE YOU FUVKIN SERIOUS? DO YOU READ THREAD? ARE YOU MAFIA? IM TRYING REALLY REALLY HARD PEOPLE ARE IGNORING ME.

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 08 2015 00:33 GMT
#332
On January 08 2015 03:16 sicklucker wrote:
##vote halfthesky ill ask why did you ignore the ls meta thing. You have played everygame with ls you know he outs everygame. I was waiting for your answer but apparently your not gonna give one


On January 08 2015 05:12 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:51 sicklucker wrote:
Hts whats your read on me? about the ls thing? why do you ignore this?


Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 01:46 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:51 sicklucker wrote:
Hts whats your read on me? about the ls thing? why do you ignore this?


Sicklucker, clearly you aren't reading the thread...I wasn't ignoring it.

On January 07 2015 22:40 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 07 2015 09:59 sicklucker wrote:
Breske your terrible. Me wanting someone to fix a part of their game that they play incorrect makes me confirmed town.
If I was scum I would not coach the least confident town I would kill him

Silly silly Goodnight


As far as this game is concerned, making general comments like that to me is not alignment indicative at best, could be scum behaviour for detracting from the current game.


On January 07 2015 23:39 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 07 2015 22:58 mderg wrote:
Any reads so far, HTS?


Right now, from the posts I've seen so far, I'm leaning town on Bunnies for her post evaluating the 2-3 reads she did (she's trying, no?), leaning scum on SL (previously mentioned), leaning scum on LS (his posts are a bit of fluff, plus posts that detract).


I gave my read on you in the post literally before your question.





So like 10 people comment on my Ls coaching thing. But hts refuses.

I know that hts knows that Ls does this every game. Shes also been in most of them

She makes no comment about it instead she posts a fluff post towards me that might even be a weak attempt to put scum on me.

I have by far the strongest case in this game vote now.

After rereading hts and missing one of her posts id say 9/10 bats


On January 08 2015 05:28 sicklucker wrote:
Ls stop being so nice we found scum. This is not a game for ponys and rainbows


On January 08 2015 05:28 sicklucker wrote:
Bats you gonna vote hts?


On January 08 2015 05:29 sicklucker wrote:
Like I HAVE NEVER EVER HAD A REAL DAY 1 READ. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD READ YOU SHOULD ALL SHEEP ME


On January 08 2015 06:55 sicklucker wrote:
like im just going to say it because it doesint affect the ongoing game. Ls claims vt like yesterday in a game. Hts ignores my rant to Ls about it and calls me scum. HTS is mafia


On January 08 2015 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 08:01 liancourt wrote:
SL stop defending LS and being useless and find scum.

I want your opinion on obi


i found scum...

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 08 2015 00:33 GMT
#333
Literraly wrote 1000+ words about it. Get wrecked lian...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 08 2015 00:37 GMT
#335
Breske I dont even know what your talking about tbh because im pushing my agenda. Ill give you a few minutes
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 08 2015 00:39 GMT
#338
Htf obi was a role he was trying to look scummy in carol of the bells. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU WERE THE OTHER ROLE INTENTIONAL BEING SCUMMY?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 08 2015 00:40 GMT
#339
On January 08 2015 09:39 Breshke wrote:
Saying i have a scumread for the sole reason someone ignored one of your posts and then ignoring one of mine is so convincing keep going you are doing great looking town!



I answered your question but you seem to have more so go on.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 08 2015 00:43 GMT
#340
On January 08 2015 07:05 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:59 Breshke wrote:
On January 08 2015 00:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On January 07 2015 14:21 Breshke wrote:
Being fully caught up why do you direct questions to three other people yet not me who you think is scum

Also lian did answer eventually

On January 07 2015 12:25 liancourt wrote:
On January 07 2015 12:20 Breshke wrote:
It was a bit less active at the start than i am used to but i have no reason to think this game will be harder than any other nor did i say it would be. Thats why im interested in why you think it will be harder?


More or less what u think

And the fact that there is no clear vet to lead town this game.

More defensive players than aggresive players


Not sure what was gotten out of delaying the answer so long and getting me to answer first though.


Oh, no. I noticed his answer, and I wholeheartedly agree that him answering was a complete delay.
Also, I was gonna follow up with a question on him on why he cared what you think, and why the information on how the game will be harder is even relevant in terms of finding scum.

I'm also disappointed in the fact that I was gone for 9 hours, and we only have one page of posts since.

Now Breshke. What is your view on Lian?

Do you agree with some of the cases that have been thrown around?


Meh, most of the cases on Lian are that he is acting differently to how he normally does and i have no idea if this is true or what it means because im too lazy to read past games. I don't understand why he is purposly acting like a dick because if he is town i don't think that's the way to go about getting people to listen to you but being a dick doesn't equal mafia. I do think he is town though because even though his case is shit on LS he seems to actually want people to comment on it and that feels town motivated to me. I am intrested to see what happens when he comes back to the thread though.

So i also think bunnies is town because the questions she has been asking while may not be like scum hunting are obviously there to get conversation flowing which is obviously something this game needs so im happy to call her town for now.

I was also liking Eden because he seemed to be on the same thought process as me about sicklucker but has seemingly flipped now for reasons that i feel are really weak.

Also sicklucker could you explain how you went from scum to null on LS (I've included your posts and the only one he made in between in the spoiler tag.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 08 2015 01:41 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
For now I town reading Oats and Lian since Oats seemed much more like himself from Student Mafia IV and Lian posts being genuine about his stuff on me. I finding that sicklucker early town read kind of questionable because I not done anything townie yet he giving me a very early town read. Unless he's basing off of meta he should have no reason to town read me this early.


I dont read you town man. Infact im scum reading you now for ignoring my qeustion


On January 08 2015 01:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:25 sicklucker wrote:
On January 07 2015 10:41 Breshke wrote:
On January 07 2015 10:21 sicklucker wrote:
I see a big leak in his town game. I roll town its a good time to fix that and increase my chances of winning If I roll scum I dont want him to know.

Its not tmi your over thinking it. There is like probably 11/14 chance hes town. Thats really good odds

He claimed his role in everyone of his 4 or 5 games. Its a very bad thing to do im trying to lead town to victory!

So lets go to bed and get fresh heads and not graph at straws. Goodnight


You can go to bed its fine don't feel like you need to stay here and interact theres plenty of time left but i have more to say.

On January 07 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
On January 07 2015 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 07 2015 07:01 sicklucker wrote:
You always out your role on game one, like in literally everygame. So please keep that to a mini Lmum its not good for town

I only soft claimed on Carol on Day 1 then Day 2 I hard claimed.


First game you claimed cop day1
second game you were mafia
third game you claimed a role on day 1. You were like barely a role
fourth game you claimed vt on day 1 (metal)
fifth game .........
your 6th game please dont do it thanks.

Coaching towns to victorys


Here you clearly say he doesn't claim in his second game and his claim in his first was completely justified because he was getting and still got lynched. So he hasn't claimed his role in every one of his games.

To me it looks like you tried to enter the thread by looking helpful with a warning to LS about something he most likely knows already. At not one point have you tried to work out alignments except saying ls has a 11/14 chance of being town . Even when i call you out you just call me terrible, am i terrible town or terrible mafia?



Hey Ls I know you dont know this so can you verify this is new information to you? Also the one game he didnt claim day 1 he was mafia. He claimed in 4/4 games as town on day 1. So ya I have good reasons to ask him not too. Yes game 1 was not his fault but it was 4/4

The only time I didn't claimed yes was I was scum but it because we killed both power roles in the first 36 hours of the game. Game 1 it was sort for telling them it was Detective not Cop but it was because I got the role pm saying it was Detective and I was getting lynched and had to claim. Yes I claimed 4/4 I soft claimed at Carol on Day 1 but my role wouldn't matter though as kush claimed Scrooge Day 1 and made me useless even if I wasn't roleblocked -_-.


On January 08 2015 01:49 sicklucker wrote:
Ok thats a good answer by Ls. back to null. Everyone thinking I townread ls is funny. All I did was coach him to not do a mistake he just admitted to doing in EVERYONE of his town games.

I dont know wtf he is but since im town I dont want him screwing up this one too if hes town.




He went a reread stuff and gave his usual cute defend everyone answer. But he did defend a confirmed mafia so your right it might be a bad read


On January 08 2015 07:11 sicklucker wrote:
I already explained breske stop being your usual scummy self plz


I attempted to answer your question if its not to your satisfactory please rephrase it because I dont understand it
sicklucker
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January 08 2015 01:02 GMT
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Like I have no idea what your talking about I dont remember everything I say im playing 2 and a half games and your questions pretty non specific without direct quotes but ill try...

I made him scum when he posted this .

OTE]On January 08 2015 05:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Dude sicklucker chill about HTS she only played with me half of my games before this one and the other game going on. She only obs'd 1 game I played which was Metal Mini where we got dumpstered by kush's tunneling on me and 27NB not helping me lynch Scib when she said she wouldn't mind a Scib lynch. But part of that game was my fault not being good at playing mafia and misplaying on MYLO.[/QUOTE]

I scum read him because he hard defended a pretty likely mafia for like pretty bad reasons. If this was any other player id still scum read him but this is ls... I cant read this kid yet your lieing if you do.

Thats not why I townread him it was because he answered my request and admitted he claimed day 1 in all 4 of his town games.

If this doesint satisfy you ya im going to ignore you. Its a really small case your pushing anyway its almost fluff people change their reads all the ime ESPECIALLY ME.
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