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Eden1892
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Vote Oats | ||
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K I vote u bby Jk I'm gonna sheep you, that cool? | ||
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I can't right now, still at work and sneaking posts. Of the viable wagons lala is the only one I don't townread so I'm voting it. No time to do anything more involved | ||
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Lets do it Moving vote | ||
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Secondly. I guess with Oats flipping theres nothing else to push... Lol Breshke why did you move to LS out of the blue? That looks really weird since you ended up on Oats at the end. | ||
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Eden1892
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Since we have miller and all | ||
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On January 12 2015 07:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Whatever, no more talking about it. Let the blues do their thing. This is true. I'm still on mobile and about to go back to work, hmu if you wanna chat real quick. Follow me on Twitter @NotTheFakeEden1892 | ||
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On January 13 2015 07:47 sicklucker wrote: Ya sure. Im pretty sure town has auto ty Ls. We have 3 kills. We kill mderg, eden and dr/ We win the game loli is probably town because breske didnt vote oats. Roles should claim Town Bats lian loli Ls Unkowns eden dr mderg This list is not good. I think liancourt is mafia. Case incoming. | ||
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First is liancourt. Most of his d1 posting by far is pushing LightningStrike, then ObiWanShinobi. Then he ends up voting with both on VayneAuthority, because VA wasn't trying d1. This is an odd sequence of events to me because (1) I don't think that's the strongest case to be made on VA and (2) liancourt claims to have only given up on pushing LS and Obi because the pushes weren't getting traction, which should mean he didn't stop suspecting them, and yet he ends up voting for the same guy as them. I know that even if I had failed to convince people to kill my suspects, two of them voting together on someone would have given me a great deal of pause. liancourt just lets the kill happen. liancourt never had a satisfactory reply to this, which I think is pretty damning on its own. It's even more damning when we look at the Day 2 vote count. On January 12 2015 06:58 Trfel wrote: Final Vote Count Day 2 ObiWanShinobi (0): Half the Sky (0): LightningStrike (1): lalipop (4): DrParnassus (2): Oatsmaster, liancourt, Oatsmaster (4): liancourt (0): Oatsmaster has been lynched! Presuming for the moment that lalalipop is town, we have two town wagons at the end of d2, and liancourt is... voting for DrParnassus. Who he literally discusses once in d2 (calls DrP unmemorable). I'm serious, read his filter, that's it. He doesn't even say he voted for DrP. He said he was going to RNG vote sicklucker, and I'm not sure if that was a joke or something he intended to do but didn't, because he doesn't say anything else about his suspects that day. He certainly doesn't push DrP. He just wastes his vote on an outlier for a reason that sounds good, but instead of pushing that good reason to get a lynch he just... does nothing. ##VOTE: liancourt | ||
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- LightningStrike confirmed town. - lalalipop is almost certainly town. Breshke would have voted Oatsmaster if lalalipop were mafia; attracting attention to himself by blatantly dodging the two wagons just doesn't make any sense for him to do. You either vote Oatsmaster to save your partner or you vote lalalipop to get towncred for the bus, you don't pick some middle route that doesn't affect anything. Him doing so only makes sense if lalalipop was also town and neither wagon looked good for a mafia to jump on. - DrP, mderg and batsnacks are the only other ones left. batsnacks left me with some townie vibes on d1, I haven't gotten a great impression from any of the 3 since (but admittedly I haven't paid much attention). I'll read them and try to narrow this down. | ||
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On January 14 2015 00:04 sicklucker wrote: So eden from your pov your 3 kills are bats , lian and mderg? Lets just kill mderg first? If we miss on mderg that means the mafia team has to be one of bats/lian or you/dr Why dont you just want to kill mderg first. Is it because hes your mafia partner? No, I want to kill lian first because he's the guy I have a case for. Show me a case on mderg and we can talk about it. So far you've said you could buy my case on lian, but then ignored it and went on with your reads anyway. And since the role shenanigans died down without definitive resolution, sicklucker is town; he's fakeclaimed like this before in Imperial, as has been noted. The thing here isn't whether or not the fakeclaim is legit at all, or whether any trap he was trying to set makes sense when you think about it. It's that sicklucker was trying to set a trap at all. Mafia don't do that with role shenanigans as a general rule: the entire mindset of "set a trap with shenanigans to catch mafia" is almost exclusively a townie mindset, and doing it with roles is even more difficult (for mafia) because it might bait a cop check on principle. If someone can point me to where sicklucker does this as mafia then I'll reconsider, but I just can't see mafia ever doing this. It's too convoluted and chancey from a mafia POV. With that said, I think batsnacks's response to sicklucker's claims was suspicious: On January 14 2015 01:56 batsnacks wrote: It was pretty clear to me. Clear enough to realize immediately, without asking the host, that you were lying. I can't unvote you after that so if you're town you just screwed up bad. This is bad for two reasons. One, by this point it's been well-established that sicklucker routinely fakeclaims as town to set traps for the mafia. It doesn't matter if they were poorly set up, like I said before: the fact that he tried it at all more or less confirms him town. batsnacks appears to be making his evaluation not based on whether the motivation for the trap was town or mafia, but on the quality of the apparent trap, which itself is not alignment-indicative. That means he isn't genuinely trying to discern whether or not sicklucker is town, he's looking for a plausible-sounding reason to put a vote down. "He fakeclaimed" is precisely the kind of mediocre policy-lynch that nonetheless is popular on TL which fits what he wants. And two, the last part, the "I can't unvote you" thing. Bullshit! You can vote or unvote for whomever you want. This looks like a justification to park his vote and leave. sicklucker is bleeding town and this guy wants to park his vote there because of an unreasonable hangup over a fakeclaim? I don't believe him. @SL, since (I think) you asked earlier: My lynch list right now is liancourt/batsnacks then batsnacks/liancourt. I don't have a third yet. | ||
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On January 14 2015 03:28 sicklucker wrote: Mderg heres a motive for you switching the vote of loli. Both you and eden seriously want lian dead. This seems silly to me. If you're actually a PR, you know there almost certainly aren't any other positive-utility town PRs (roleblocker + vigilante + whatever) remaining. That makes liancourt VT. Why would mderg care about killing liancourt over anyone else if mderg is mafia and liancourt has no special power? | ||
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On January 14 2015 06:02 sicklucker wrote: That has nothing to with what I said about mderg eden. Mderg asked why he would switched his vote from loli to oats. That doesn't actually explain why he would switch the vote though. You realize this, right? What is your actual case on mderg? I asked you for this earlier. | ||
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