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rsoultin
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On January 06 2015 11:22 Tubesock wrote: I'd probably vote LightningStrike. I don't think he's done much so far. I'm looking at Celeste and Oxe to see if their arguments line up and look fishy. No one else is really catching my eye Why LS? | ||
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On January 05 2015 23:50 LightningStrike wrote: My new player reads I never played with before since you asked for them HTS -Celestial-: Town since he gave a lot of good points on why his reads were they were the way they were although he did make a mistake on editing and hoping he not modkilled. Gumdrop: I need some more posts to figure him out. Jarjarbinks: Need more posts from him but he got some excuses for why he so little posts so far. I hope he feels better and can play like like his brother! The Shining: Town for now since she asking some questions and looks like she trying to figure this game out but again I need more posts from him to confirm my thoughts of him being town. Silverate: I need more posts from her to determine her alignment. ExO_: Need more posts from because other than the nitpicking on your post there is nothing for me to look at  TheWarWaffle: Town he at least tried to break down the stuff in your post and explain in his mine what the stuff means and asking questions about it. I hope he post more so I can confirm my read on him! | ||
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Okay, so while I get why people are scumreading LS, I don't think that him giving reads on demand that are mostly town/null is all that scummy. By itself maybe... But I really like this post of his, that features him asking others for reads and making a point on Trfel's "free" townie points that doesn't feel scum-motivated to me: + Show Spoiler + On January 05 2015 23:17 LightningStrike wrote: I just woke up and Trfel I making one but it might take a few days for approval I do agree that finding scum in a newbie game is looking at game play alone unless there is players that had played a game or two before this one. Then we can make meta cases but right now I not getting anything on peoples alignment I played with before (HTS, Tfrel, Rsoultin, Tubesock) I don't know why people were nitpicking HTS pronouns though because I think she was just referring to me, Rsoultin and her since we were the only ones at the thread at the time of her post. @Exo can you tell us what you thinking right now and why? @Tfrel you don't give free town cred it's just not good logic there. @Gumdrop Hi welcome to the thread it's a little hard on finding Scum Day 1 but it will get easier. Also can you give us your reads so far on who is town and who is not with explanations please? He also has one of the longer filters. + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2015 02:25 LightningStrike wrote: As far I know Rsoultin is a guy but until Rsoultin say he is a guy or girl my view wont change.Also I know we got at least 2 girls playing this game. Also what your thoughts on me? Based on meta (which I know y'all don't like, but others can verify/dispute who have played with him) I don't see LS asking others' for their opinion on him out of the blue as scum. He's not that confident a player. He also has an almost ridiculous tendency to use meta arguments almost exclusively as town, which I see him doing again with his reads on Trfel, HTS and myself. Though at least he's confining it to players he's actually played with this game. Scum or town, I <3 you LS. No offense intended lol. | ||
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On January 06 2015 12:04 jarjarbinks wrote: My piggyback scumread! I know I am completely worthless day 1. I've only played with Shining once before, but I would agree with Rsoultin on the Shining vote solely on his behavior in our last game when he was mafia in the early days of the game. She did the same thing, scumreading most people that scumread her each time. It is possible that she just always does that (I'm an easy target if you want to fire back Shining!), but I would say that the chances she's scum are higher than the solid 27% probability for the rest of ya'll. Is it ok to pass judgement based on previous games? What is blue hunting? Sorry I called you a girl LS. You're last post had 0 scumreads. If you were to pick someone to lynch as of now who would it be? Blue-hunting is scum looking for town power roles like the cop or the medic...I'd have to look back at the OP to remember who they were in this game. Think Jack Bauer was the cop. A good example of that would be KSC in Carol. He is scum and claims that a power role should claim, then tries to say that he made the comment to get a read on another player. It is okay to base reads on meta (prior experience/knowledge of the player's style). I wouldn't base your whole read on meta, though, and it will be hard to sell to others who haven't played with them before. | ||
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On January 06 2015 12:12 LightningStrike wrote: I ,3 you too rsoultin also what is your thought my rather large post earlier? The one with your explanation of your reads? Mostly just that you don't seem sure about anyone yet and are generally reading those who post a lot as town and those who post little as null.  I'd like to see more from you. So you don't find any behavior/posts scummy, just inactivity? Gumdrop would be a lurker lynch, I think you'd agree. Unless you're seeing something I'm not? | ||
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You mentioned Shining being null, LS. I've already said why I think he's the most likely scum out of the bunch. Do you disagree? See a point that I made that you think is wrong or weak? | ||
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JarJar mentioned meta. He could link you. | ||
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The best thing you can do to help improve those reads as town is talk and get others to talk to you. | ||
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Yes, I lost that game for town woot! And yes, Tubesock, in that context I would say that Shining appears to be sheeping ExO's read. Maybe we should ask him what he meant. | ||
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Regarding celeste...probably not a Day 1 lynch. Seems to be putting in a lot of work if he's scum. I expect him to put in similar amounts of work as the days progress. If he drops off the face of the planet...cause it's hard to sustain analysis like that for long as scum...then I think a lynch may be in order. Regarding gumdrop...I'm actually getting more okay with a gumdrop lynch. Kinda convenient when he decided to drop in with basically just another excuse not to post. We'll see. | ||
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On January 06 2015 16:33 The Shining wrote: On my way to bed and I'm in the process of catching up with everything, I'll elaborate on more first thing in the morning but I had to clarify this. I wasn't sheeping ExO, just shifting my focus from HTS to ExO. I feel that I'm right in my reasoning against him and I was pointing out the possible banding together between him and HTS by him offering a free town read, something he himself said mafia likes to do. So...I know I'm being particular about your wording here, but I can't tell if you're suggesting that ExO is pocketing a town!HTS by giving her a "free town read", or making a pre-flip association between the two, talking about them "banding together"? While I was just prodding and asking people questions, this seems like a major reasoning jump, as there is a big difference in my mind between saying you won't lynch a particular player Day 1 and definitively town-reading them. Other parts of your case bother me, too. Are you saying that ExO questioning people and changing his votes is scummy? Would it be less scummy if he was only focusing on one person? Do you have any reads on anyone else? For instance, I probably will not support an ExO lynch today, while I am still very tempted to vote you. Who else would you be willing to lynch? | ||
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I'll be at work most of the rest of the day, but will check back in closer to the lynch and move my vote if Waffle suddenly starts oozing town or one of my other lynchables is one of the main wagons. Want to give Shining a chance to explain himself. Gumdrop, I'd also like to see more reads from you as the day progresses, but you've satisfied me enough not to be my lynch. For now. Normally I don't put much stock in reads on demand, but I saw some original thoughts in there, it's Day 1 and you're new. ##WarWaffle <- Just so everyone's clear what they'll find in the voting thread. | ||
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re: blue-hunting...i really was ignoring this by and large cause im not concerned about being scumread and its predominately paranoia-fueled, but since it keeps coming up... i was poking hts for a reaction. i was poking silver cause her post was unclear and i wanted to know what she meant. i can see the argument that poking could be blue hunting, however making a strong read on someone based on the nothing in this thread is kind of hilarious. you are also presupposing that i am scum and have perfect information if you call probing and questions scummy. mafia doesnt need to probe aggressively to blue hunt. i dont think its wise to tell you more than that in the odd event that scum this game doesnt know how | ||
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i want to lynch shining. i will settle for ww. i have 20 mins gice or take. ask, discuss, but after that i wint be able to change my vote. btw shining is new to the site. not to mafia. | ||
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- posts no definitive opinion on alignments between hts and myself, burying it in a waffly second multi para pist where its difficult to see what he actually thinks - only develops hard reads on ppl pushing him (note exo stated some of what he was doing was scummy, as well as hts) - continually says he will post a lot (weekend/morning) and doesn't - only returns briefly to the thread to defend against weak point and not the case made on him - conveniently uses celestials explanation for why questions are bad not gonna lie and say these things couldnt be town, but they add up as more suspicioua to me than others play | ||
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