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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 03 2015 03:06 GMT
#119
Hmmm...I'm also inclined to give it the weekend since I think Tube would be likely to join once he gets back.

But lol, don't really want to wait for 12 indefinitely. Think it's more likely for us to lose players as time goes on than gain them.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 03 2015 05:02 GMT
#124
lol tube would be 12 so yeah, think we should wait for 12 then ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 03 2015 05:33 GMT
#129
yeah, sorry, that last one I don't know so I can't hunt 'em down :/

I'm good with starting Sunday
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 03 2015 05:47 GMT
#133
yay @HTS ^^

and yes, lynch everyone muahaha...aren't most of them new?

I think I've already failvoted to lynch shining though ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 03 2015 15:51 GMT
#137
eeew thesis lol

dissertation style or graduate research project style?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 03 2015 22:32 GMT
#142
On January 04 2015 01:30 -Celestial- wrote:
Full on 150-200 pages, 100-200 references doctoral thesis on the past four years of work.

Which I've had about a month and a half to work on properly exclusively due to having to be in the lab right up until the last minute, and suffered a bereavement part way through that messed me up a bit but I couldn't get an extension for. Yeah...fun. >_>


Ouch. At least it's over, though. That must feel fing awesome lol.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 04 2015 04:00 GMT
#147
does this mean I need to guard my neck jealously, trfel? xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 04 2015 04:20 GMT
#149
lol I don't really fear you anyway trfel. though you do have some killer case-making abilities. no pun intended xP

sides, you can roll scum just as easily and that would be an interesting game indeed
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 05 2015 00:26 GMT
#159
On January 05 2015 09:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay guys here is our agenda for Day 1.

First, We find scum.
Second, We lynch scum.
Third, We find more scum.

Any questions on the agenda?


Lol, and here I was wondering how to drum up conversation.
Thank you, LS. The obvious is blinding. Maybe you have a how to find scum to dazzle us with in there somewhere.

On January 05 2015 09:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Negative, LS, about as straightforward as this can be. We need to burn scum before they burn us.


Pretty quick to start up the "us" against scum mentality there HTS. What your post should have read:
I AM TOWN I AM TOWN I AM TOWN
because that's what's screaming between the lines Why so anxious to imply that?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 05 2015 00:35 GMT
#161
nope, not implying she's scum, just implying she's awfully anxious to make sure we don't think she's scum which is actually less an implication and more an outright statement given my question.

aren't you interested in the answer, ls?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 05 2015 01:02 GMT
#166
On January 05 2015 09:47 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 09:35 rsoultin wrote:
nope, not implying she's scum, just implying she's awfully anxious to make sure we don't think she's scum which is actually less an implication and more an outright statement given my question.

aren't you interested in the answer, ls?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but she just made one post right? And that's your basis for "awfully anxious to make sure we don't think she's scum"? Seems like that's reading into things quite a bit more than is reasonable.

I'm much more highly suspicious of you for trying to through some nonsense suspicion on someone else.


Lol, I was just curious about her softing town with all the possessive "we" and "us" pronouns. Asking questions is not the same as being suspicious or throwing scum on others.

Besides, I'm not the accomplished liar here, ExO_. Three guesses and the first two don't count who that is. Nice to see you joining the discussion though.

@HTS...of course I'll mention anything that I notice. This isn't like where I've played with them, though, so I'm going to avoid being too quick to point fingers.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 05 2015 01:14 GMT
#168
On January 05 2015 10:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Who are the people you played with on other places Rsoultin?


Shining and ExO_ for sure...not certain if some of these other names are hiding people or not cause Damdred posted a thread advertising this place.

JarJar I've played with, too. He's also my brother.

And I invited my friend, Silverarte, but she's never played before and I have no idea how she would go about playing the game lol.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 05 2015 01:32 GMT
#173
On January 05 2015 09:45 Half the Sky wrote:
LOL Rasputin, I'm not anxious. I'm very determined to find the scummers and sniff them out. Damn straight I'm town, but here's the thing - It's one thing to be town, but it's another to step up and do something about it. And that's what I was driving at.

We have a lot of new players in this game, most have not played a game here, so we definitely need to see how things pan out. If you know any information Rasputin on any of the players you've played with in some of your other non-TL games (since it seems you've recruited a few of them here), give us a shout.


Fair enough, for now. I do expect you to be a super gung-ho scum-hunting townie based on this post, though. Don't let me down.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 05 2015 01:39 GMT
#175
On January 05 2015 10:34 Silverarte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 09:47 ExO_ wrote:
On January 05 2015 09:35 rsoultin wrote:
nope, not implying she's scum, just implying she's awfully anxious to make sure we don't think she's scum which is actually less an implication and more an outright statement given my question.

aren't you interested in the answer, ls?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but she just made one post right? And that's your basis for "awfully anxious to make sure we don't think she's scum"? Seems like that's reading into things quite a bit more than is reasonable.

I'm much more highly suspicious of you for trying to through some nonsense suspicion on someone else.


Also, I'm not sure here. It makes me curious when someone is energetically after scum right at the get go. Could they be? It's possible. I wonder myself


It would help if you clarified who the "someone" you're talking about is and what you're actually wondering. Could they be what?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 05 2015 01:51 GMT
#179
On January 05 2015 10:44 The Shining wrote:
On one hand, I can see why Soultin thought it a bit hasty for HTS to jump into the us vs scum mentality. Not knowing HTS from a hole in the wall also helps to make it a bit more odd for me that she'd jump in and be willing to be associated as an "us" with LS, unless she is in fact VT and believes LS is, too.

On the other hand, Soultin has already let it go and is now moved on to Silver. How am I to know you're not just going to question every one of us in the hopes of a slip or something that gives away a role?


Well, I am going to question things when they're not clear or seem out-of-place. Not sure how else to scumhunt cause I don't have a handy dandy scum divining rod. If you're implying that I'm bluehunting, though, not sure what you're basing that comment on apart from paranoia.

Care to enlighten us?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 05 2015 13:19 GMT
#194
Pues...

@Silverarte - super Cheshire grin primed and ready. More to the point, you still haven't clarified your post. So it was about HTS...but what exactly is it that you are wondering?

@Exo - putting JarJar's excuses on the same level as Trfel's because of insider information (he really does have a broken computer and he did give me his disgusting cold when he came to visit for the holidays). Which means they could easily both be hiding behind excuses, but the excuses themselves are probably legitimate. That said..

@JarJar - step it up, you jokester, you. I know you're good at this game when you want to be, sniffles or no xP

@Waffle - just help keep an eye on HTS to make sure she follows through on her scum-hunting braggadocio and doesn't slide beneath the radar later...bit early to claim she's not living up to expectations right now I think

@Tube - better entrance than last game. same approach. gonna echo HTS and ask if you're getting anything out of the limited back-and-forth so far
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 05 2015 20:37 GMT
#229
dont expect many posts from me during work hours, primarily. i dont have net access at work except on a lunch break and dont always choose to take them.

i am female. i just never correct ppl misreading me as a guy, especially since my gender is insignificant to these games xP

more importantly, i like the work you put in celeste, despite the read on me. exo seems okay so far this game...and i also find shining's drive by post interesting. im interested to see if he plans on following up. trfel is right about hts which is why i jumped; ill keep prodding if im not satisfied. not much to go off of yet...more thoughts or prods after work
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 06 2015 02:08 GMT
#252
Heh, it's kind of interesting how many of you are mistaking questions for scumreading people, actually. To clarify, "interesting" does not necessarily mean "scummy" coming from me. I will tell you if I am scumreading someone.

Celeste...I don't think I'll be lynching you Day 1. That's a lot of work to come from scum, whether I agree with your reads or not (and as it's already been stated, my reads are historically far from godly). Kind of early to worry about night kills, though.

Some people I do have concerns about and why:

- Shining. Probably my strongest (read: only) scum read (though I still wouldn't call it strong, just not much to work with so far). It's actually not for the reasons y'all have mentioned, though.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2015 10:44 The Shining wrote:
On one hand, I can see why [font color=green]Soultin[/font] thought it a bit hasty for [font color=red]HTS[/font] to jump into the us vs scum mentality. Not knowing [font color=red]HTS from a hole in the wall also helps to make it a bit more odd for me that she'd jump in and be willing to be associated as an "us" with LS, unless she is in fact VT and believes LS is, too.

On the other hand, [font color=red]Soultin[/font] has already let it go and is now moved on to [font color=green]Silver.[/font] How am I to know you're not just going to question every one of us in the hopes of a slip or something that gives away a role?
[/red]

Blah. Says things without really saying anything. I colored the names to reflect the alignment implications in his post, which as you can see flip-flopped. He took no definitive stance, neither on the behaviors nor the players.

After this initial post and further waffling on HTS and myself, he conveniently adopts Celestial's explanation for why he thought my behavior was blue-hunting. Perhaps they were truly thinking the same thing, but it seems an awfully convenient out, since Shining has actually played enough to know that probing for alignment on Day 1 is better than sitting on your hands hoping mafia just says something scummy unprompted and unpressured to fill the proverbial silence.

That said, this post gives me pause:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote:
Thank you for clearing that up for me, HTS. The main reason I thought you were suspicious was it felt you overlooked it and were more concerned with focusing me. However, ExO saying you're definitely not a Day 1 lynch is something I'll keep in mind going forward...

After ExO's last post, I'm honestly not convinced and actually much more suspicious of him. His first post was attacking Rsoultin. Instead of waiting to see if he can figure out anything from other posts, his next post is another attack on Jar Jar, which also lead to a Jar Jar fast vote. Then, in the same post that he attacks WarWaffle for stating that he had reads but didn't share them, he gives Tubesock a pass for not giving reads because they'll be crappy reads.

Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 17:04 ExO_ wrote:
Read everything else that was posted just now. I dont like tubesock saying his reads are going to be trash probably, but its day 1 and I think he gets a pass for now. Warwaffle why don't you share some of this amazing information you've discovered already, since you are so great at reading based on phrasing and what not. I think its rather arrogant to sit back and say "I know so much already" without actually saying anything.


Also, he says he needs to see more people posting and sharing thoughts but he's only got 4 posts or so in that time, as well. His last post was the attack and quick vote on LS. That is twice in 1 day he has quick voted for people with 0 follow through. Why isn't he more curious about Jar Jar not defending his lynch? He was also suspicious of me. As Town, I'm a bit hesitant to vote a lynch and mistakenly kill another town or power role. Him voting left and right makes it seem like he doesn't care who dies.

If anyone's getting my vote right now, it's ExO.



I think that the lack of follow-through on posts is a good point on the surface. However, if you go back through ExO's filter, he does explain his reads, asks questions and moves on when he is satisfied. His explanations for voting early also make sense. It has not escaped me that the people Shining is scumreading are those who have scumread him...HTS did, then suddenly she seems more scummy, ExO did and now he's scummy.

That said, I can see town doing that and being uncertain of his reads in the beginning. Shining, do you have some original thoughts? Despite the volume of your posts, I'm not really seeing much other than borrowed explanations, waffling, and faulty logic that even borders on misrepresenting the player you're reading.

- JarJar. I know him, though, so I also know he'll be more comfortable with voting analysis than trying to tone read or analyze semantics. He definitely needs to try harder to find scum Day 1 without the pretty numbers to help, though.
- Tubesock. The fact that he started with policy when he was scumread for that last game actually makes me lean town on him just because you'd think he'd be more concerned with his image if he were scum. The problem is...we're over 24 hours in and all I see is a post about policy lynching.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 06 2015 02:13 GMT
#254
EBWOP:
Meh, me and my constant coding issues. Pretend it worked xP

On January 06 2015 11:05 Tubesock wrote:
I would like to talk more about Exo.

I am starting to think he's looking for stuff to nitpick on and throwing mud around to see what sticks. Take the scum read on me and LS were based largely on lack of confidence in D1 reads. Yet, most the thread has mentioned or alluded to the reality that D1 reads are anything but easy. Also in something like 4 of his posts, they each have a new scum read, there doesn't seem much effort to mature them seems more casting a wide net as it were.


You are scumreading the guy who scumread you for not posting anything of use in approximately 24 hours. Have to respectfully disagree on the lack of progression and the "mature" or "deep" reads argument for Day 1. If anyone has a strong scumread on anyone right now I'd be shocked. He said why he was okay with me, didn't explain why he left off JarJar, but accepted Shining's explanation. There is a logical progression there apart from JarJar who would arguably be a policy lynch if he was the lynch tomorrow anyway.

Do you have any other reads?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 06 2015 02:18 GMT
#257
On January 06 2015 11:15 Tubesock wrote:
Rsoultin, I'd agree with you on Shining, if this were day 2 or 3, it's just half way in to day 1 there really isn't much content here. We are still on page 13, if this were Carol it would be like 40.

I think the real juice will come tomorrow, when people get more pressure to actually find people to vote. Is the Shining your vote if we had to have it in a couple hours vs tomorrow?


All things remaining equal (and until LS explains the basis for his townreads; I have a suspicion but will let him answer) yes. If I had to vote today based on the information so far it would be Shining. Who would you vote for?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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