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Silverarte
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Silverarte
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Silverarte
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Current Scum Reads: Celesial and LS LS - if you don't mind, I'm not going to beat this horse into the ground anymore. I'd like to see what LS comes back with tomorrow, if anything. If you need me to expound on this, I certainly can but I don't really want to make everyone reread what they've already seen. I can put up the reasons I support this if anyone really wants to see them. Celestial - First off, I've been reading and rereading ExO's and Shining's points. While I do believe Celestial is expecting me to defend myself to calling me a liar, Shining got the defense out before I did. Some of you might say that is convienent, and admittedly, it is. But let me add a few things from this newbie mafia player in your group. Firstly: ExO makes a great point. You may not have lied, but there are levels of inconsistency in your votes. LS --> Jarjar ---->LS. While LS seems to have generally given up on defending himself, you're pretty active (which is great!), so let's keep going. Secondly:, Celestial did not post substance on one of his Scum claims til Tubeshock insisted on it. Loudly. Then we got something. And then guess who's first...Shining! Then...Rsoultin? Now, admittedly, I caught this post below but still. Why these two? You've made a good case to support your claim, but while Shining has been in and out of the scum radar, Rsoultin was not a strong case for you previously (or so I thought!). Admittedly, she was suspicious for you, but why suddenly these coming to the forefront? On January 09 2015 08:21 -Celestial- wrote: I literally just stated that my case on jarjar was shaken by his massive improvement after the flip. Or did you miss that part? Or are you deliberately ignoring it? You asked for a case and since you were bloody well doubting the LS read I thought it would be handy for you to convince yourself on it. If you don't want that then fine. Now, I'm fine with a vote change..but are Shining and Rsoultin honestly your top picks now? I know they were always on your radar, but top? Thirdly: Hmm. Quite honestly, your posts are reading like lashing out. While this game is emotionally charged, what is there to suddenly get frustrated with? Why get frustrated with a scum read and someone wanting them? I'm given to understand that's par for the course. None of it's personal guys. You're fantastic! But....I was asked and here it shall be! | ||
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Silverarte
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Silverarte
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Moreso, we do see a consistent pattern with (as Rsoultin said to give credit where it's due) the WW bad Lynch and a general unwillingness to press his own votes. LS, I give a lot of credence to the case. A lot of bad 'juju' if you will in the pattern of his votes/targets. Right now? My vote is parking on Celestial (which is supported by the post before this one, not just this one). ##Vote: Celestial | ||
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Silverarte
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Silverarte
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Silverarte
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Silverarte
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And towny words or not, Tubesock, I think it's time I probably claim with checks considering it's Mylo/Lylo (whatever it is). I'm the Cop. My checks were on Tubesock and ExO_, both clearing as town. The two checks are, I believe, solid. Tubesock has been continually contributing and consisitently. ExO_, unless he's the godfather, is also clear. My spidey senses say and hope he isn't! My checks said town after all! It's said Celestial isn't a viable good push today, I question that. In a game of newbies, how unbalanced would it be if we had a veteran, doc AND cop on the towne side? Rsoultin herself pointed out how scummy Celest's claim on being a doc. Shining is definitely an option, but Celestial still reeks of scum to me. On January 09 2015 14:53 rsoultin wrote: Okay... I won't lynch the following tomorrow under any circumstances: HTS ExO (lesser town read, but still a town read) Those I would prefer not to lynch from strongest to weakest: JarJar (despite the OMGUS moment at his case, was consistent on his reads leading up to the lynch, and voted sensibly) Tubesock (appeared tunneled, took responsibility afterwards, solid posting before and after) Silver (complete null) Shining (suspicious, don't like the lying, but his defense was otherwise convincing and he's improved in Day 2. willing to give him more time) Gumdrop (suspicious, but he hasn't posted hardly at all. the only thing that doesn't make this a policy lynch is the point I asked him to clarify on EoD...and I'd like to see his answer before lynching him) On to lynchables: LS - <3 you, dude, but I think you're a solid lynch + all actives you townread (with the exception of shining at null), and all inactives you null read (scum WW as "worst inactive") - thanks to ExO (I think) for turning me on to this gem + only reaction to WWs soft claim was to ask him to claim + sudden rage after flip and saying you tunneled him...where? your reads put him as basically the worst of your nulls + meta point: afraid of lynching blues in all prior games -Celestial- - not personal either, but you're my top choice + all three lynchwagons were scumread by you in your last Day 1 list post, with waffling back and forth on LS afterwards + kept saying WW lynch felt wrong, yet reacted to blue claim saying it wasn't enough to convince "us" (weren't you already convinced given your posts?) + more about WW lynch feeling wrong, but did nothing about it i.e. tried to get others to vote JarJar with you or change your vote to other two scumreads LS and Shining + lesser point, but you never mention my static vote on WW despite Shining case until I question you...why didn't it come up before in your WW lynch feels wrong posts? Will place the vote here tomorrow morning, all things remaining equal. If anyone wants links to the posts behind those points, please ask. (Was going for readability.) These are great defense posts supporting a lot of Soultin said. As for myself, in a later post I wrote that: -Celestial was inconsistent with what he's saying. ExO did a great job of pointing that out. -What substance was there til Tube insisted on something? And then look it who came up first. Shining, then Rsoultin (who flipped town). And a more recent one I've been considering: -What's the best way to save your rear in this game when everyone's voting you? Claim a power role! TLDR version: -If I'm cop and we flipped the vet, why would we have a doc? -My checks are supported by other's posting. -It was clear that town (Tube, Rsoultin, so on) weren't going to mislynch Celestial today by their posting last night. Why did the mafia leave him alive? (thoughts on Shining to come!) | ||
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Silverarte
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HTS's and Scott's case on Shining is pretty solid and supported. The biggest problem is Shining's lack of posts coupled with what looks like a lack of 'reasoning' behind it. Example being here that my real life gets in the way of my being able to post frequently. That said, I find the case interesting and plausible. I really want to see more from Shining. I think he has a lot to offer when he posts. I just dislike that I have nothing more recent to go off of. Scott, you asked me why I voted checked the two I did. First night was ExO, and I checked him for how angry his posts sounded and how scummy he was. Tubesock I checked because it felt like no one was questioning him. Or rather, his motivations. When choosing someone, I was worried about hiding in plain sight, which is what the mafia/scum we have this game are clearly doing. Admittedly, I just figured out how I could have done that after the night action time ticked down. Tubesock? Two things. One? "Baby come back" is stuck in my head. Just saying. Two? I'm also VERY interested in what Jarjar also has to say. | ||
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Silverarte
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(Nothing personal Celestial! And a belated happy birthday!) | ||
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Silverarte
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Tubesock, I'm totally holding onto my tinfoil hat here too. I'm agreeing with you. | ||
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Silverarte
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Silverarte
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Now for the nitty gritty. C'mon man! (When you get back). Rather than moping about "What do I do now", why don't you try to help us find the right lynch? I mean, if you're really town, that's what you should be doing. @Jarjar Why is Shining at your top of top? (genuine curiosity. I'm looking for the part that's your opinions, not percentages). Also, just pointing out to you Jarjar..what do I gain by lying at this point? There was no motivation or push for it. I wasn't at the top of the list for anything or anyone. | ||
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Silverarte
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On January 12 2015 07:27 Silverarte wrote: I was asked what I thought of Shining. It took me a while to go through everything, from cases against him to his own posts. (And I admit it...I may have fallen asleep a bit in the little. Stupid colds. ><) HTS's and Scott's case on Shining is pretty solid and supported. The biggest problem is Shining's lack of posts coupled with what looks like a lack of 'reasoning' behind it. Example being here that my real life gets in the way of my being able to post frequently. That said, I find the case interesting and plausible. I really want to see more from Shining. I think he has a lot to offer when he posts. I just dislike that I have nothing more recent to go off of. Scott, you asked me why I voted checked the two I did. First night was ExO, and I checked him for how angry his posts sounded and how scummy he was. Tubesock I checked because it felt like no one was questioning him. Or rather, his motivations. When choosing someone, I was worried about hiding in plain sight, which is what the mafia/scum we have this game are clearly doing. Admittedly, I just figured out how I could have done that after the night action time ticked down. Tubesock? Two things. One? "Baby come back" is stuck in my head. Just saying. Two? I'm also VERY interested in what Jarjar also has to say. Celestial, are you even reading the posts? >> That said Celestial, what's "suspicious" about my claim at this point? Who was pushing me to claim anything? Who was voting for me to be lynched? Top suspicious people are yourself and Shining. I'm safe, or was, as NK is coming up if we all survive the game to night. So, let's try it this way. -I feel as though you're pushing my points against you on me. Especially since other posts I've written answer that question credibly. So, that feels scummy to an extreme. -Next, I haven't claimed under 'scummy' conditions or to save myself from a lynch train. -It's Mylo/Lylo. We're questioning my checks over my motivation? Between the two of us, your claim was far more suspicious. -Let's point out instead how you were ready to give up because "no one believes you" until I encouraged. Considering how late you're noticing I claimed, are you even reading the posts? This feels incredibly last ditched. | ||
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Silverarte
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Silverarte
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--Now to the reason I"m voting who I am. Sorry Jarjar. =( Looking at your reasons, I can follow why you vote who, but you never answered my question as to why youfelt about Shining the way you did without the percentages. Reason I'm concerned about your vote is more that you voted Shining (who you think is town), but didn't look to the ones you said are more suspicious? (Like HTS?) Nothing personal man, but you're getting my vote. =( (On the flip side, I hope you do have a good day at work!) ##Vote: Jarjarbinks | ||
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