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On January 02 2015 22:47 KelsierSC wrote:
points about sl. i cant quote them but in brief
1) he scum reads geript but there is nothing original in it, but then before the flip even happens he starts talking about who this flip is going to clear, like he knows geript will flip scum and immediately wants to get credit for it. why is so quick to clear other people and try to clear himself rather than find scum.
2) despite having, in his mind, a strong read on geript he decides to just switch onto bats because "my town reads did it" his town reads are pretty bad, more on that later. why would you trust other peoples reads over your own. This is an awful reason.
3) he wants to give dam a really easy town read , first thing he does is town read dam immediately for making a joke at the start. That is a good reason to switch off your scum read in that close a situation?
4) This is a common mafia trick but he overstated his impact "I had a strong first 24 hours". Sorry SL but no you didn't.
I will add quotes etc later.
1. I do the same for when bats about to flip but bats wa stown
2. 4 town reads on a player I admit I cant read on day 1 when my reads suck sure why now?
3. Dam is a really easy town read.
4. Like I thought I did I dominated the thread was more like first 12 hours.
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On January 03 2015 03:32 KelsierSC wrote:
oh yeh and SL claiming he had "mad cold feet"
not fucking really dude. Think JAt called that shit out already.
On January 02 2015 13:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ya geript wtf was that vote explain yourself I can easily hammer you now if I want to because your not voting bats
Your so wrong like me and jat had the cold feet heres eden trying to make sure we keep are votes
On January 02 2015 13:52 Eden1892 wrote:
JAT, sicklucker, let's sort out geript later. You guys are no better than batsnacks if you spite-vote geript for a stealth vote
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On January 02 2015 13:49 sicklucker wrote:
I wanna spite vote geript now
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On January 03 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 03:30 KelsierSC wrote:On January 03 2015 03:18 Damdred wrote:
Ok i've went over the games of superbia, the two newbie games, fanfic and two mafia games ffl2 and 2p2. (And ate some yummy chinese)
My initial premise is incorrect when I go over the other games.
After some consideration I decided to throw out ffl2 for a couple of reasons, it was not normal for superbia in the sense that he replaced in during the night phase of d1 after batsnacks had gotten lynched for being unrememberable and a few other things (bats was scum here) and had a good many pages to catch up on. Rayn got killed during the night and robik and myself got mod killed (I was mafia) so super really did not have time to spam up the game in any way.
In the newbie games and fanfic it was about the same length, mostly consisting on one liners and some insightful thoughts. Usually came out to 3 pages or so a day besides the 2nd newbie where he averaged 4 pages or so. Which is right in line with his town play but always put his thoughs out their from what i read.
I did notice that even in the game i think isn't good for analysis amount of posts that super likes to bus a bit and make list posts that generally are scum reading all the team mates so if we lynch superbia at any point and he flips scum ritoky is a good place to look, but now isn't the time for associative reads.
The other thing was that besides ffl2 the posting was about on the same pace as the town games but mostly going with the flow.
Soon as super starts posting more I can determine better but I haven't seen in any games super play the lurky role. right... so whats the point? dam who are the scum who voted on bats The point is that, I told Koshi (as I said before) that I was goin to check out superbias past games and try to find if this sort of lurking and sticking votes is alignment indicative because of a past experience I had in ffl2. And I posted the results I found and I was wrong. Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik These are the people who voted bats. I think that SL, Robik had the least amount of reasons to jump on bats. Some of the reasons that they posted were that they were sheeping basically. Eden and myself look the worst because we told everyone who was thinking about jumping to sit and wait for the flip. SL I think would be the scum there especially since he was the hammer vote I believe and even though he stated he wanted to hammer geript he didn't do it then sounded pretty smug after the flip.
Robiks vote was literally a toss away vote and hes town for it. No mafia throws a useless last second vote on a town about to flip EVER. Robik is like the most confirmed town in this game
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On January 03 2015 05:03 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 03 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
@artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia. I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid. I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2. I think that even though my filter size was lacking, I still managed to give decent substantiated reads d1. Basically what you are saying about DrHamd what others are saying about him is something I articulated early on into the game. I don't recall all the reads I gave but I think they've been decently solid. I also think (wifom) that I wouldn't be as self-aware as I am regarding my play. I stated that I was more nervous of people TRing me than scum reading me because I think the people who are scum reading me are probably analyzing and thinking about the game more clearly than those who are TRing me. I am town, but the people giving me town reads are more likely doing it based off of TMI
Na dude like you can only be town the way you voted. Like 15% chance you vote like that if you think someone might switch and you and gerit are together. If not like your town
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On January 03 2015 05:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I can't get over sicklucker saying town is fucked when he also thinks town caught 2 mafia in the other bandwagons...why assume chyz or geript will survive this game
I said two mafia as in bats and gerit when gerit wouldnt vote for bats. Not whatever your thinking.
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On January 03 2015 05:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
How is being the 1st to vote kinda scummy exactly
keeping options to get the vote of gert. Because these shennanies literally always happen. Like if im mafia with gert I have two guys on my team pushing other lynches. Kind of like jat pushing bats and koshi pushing vivax. Just trying to see what we can get to stick.
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Name a few people who should be checked.
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On January 03 2015 06:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
sicklucker is the only person who didn't even attempt to justify his switch to bats
Sheeping 4 of 6 townreads in a 20 player game is a better reason then what most of you did. I literally town read all of you look at my filter. I have very few town reads as well.
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Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other.
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On January 03 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote:
Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other. wtf you townread eden,dam ,artanis and drH enough to vote on bats.
i mean sure but from my pov its unlikely everyone was town in a mislynch. There also trying to all bury me. Im still leaning town but not strong on eden artanis doc. I just completely recend my dandred read. That was a weak early read he has not really backed it up.
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I SAIDD DECENT TOWN READS. When you and your 4 town reads lead a mislynch, the strength of these reads go down but are not forgottten
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On January 03 2015 06:33 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 06:31 sicklucker wrote:On January 03 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote:On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote:
Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other. wtf you townread eden,dam ,artanis and drH enough to vote on bats. i mean sure but from my pov its unlikely everyone was town in a mislynch. There also trying to all bury me. Im still leaning town but not strong on eden artanis doc. I just completely recend my dandred read. That was a weak early read he has not really backed it up. so me and palmar are no longer town now either? why did robick and marv become town aswell?
Na your probably still town. But you do lose some points attacking an easy mislynch harder the anyone else. Palmer just completely fell off the world. I have no idea what he is anymore he spent the whole time blaming others and not helping find scum.
Im also less sure on gerit because if that mislynch wa stown driven then most likely both horses are town. And my main reason to town read palmer was his drive to kill him.
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On January 03 2015 06:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sickluckers train of thought from what i can tell:
1. Geript is scum because he martyred not even close? he was horrible all day I was the firt person to put scum on him
2. Bats is scum because of edens post and because my townreads all agree Ya completely
3. Both geript and bats are scum speculation if bat flips scum but he didnt!
4. Geript is scum for not saving himself same as above
5. Geript might be town for not saving himself and martyringmight be town because the counter wagon was mostly town
Ten posts or so earlier you confidently tell people to get on a martyrs bandwagon then later you say all your day 1 reads are a wash anyway. Nah, i dont believe that
waste of time
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Yes it does but its not a strong enough reason not to kill him unfortunately.
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Oh great now im doctors tunnel. Which means im never getting voted off
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Why would I save a team mate who wont save himself? Ask yourself that doctor
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No like hes not. Im to arrogant to help a scum team mate who gave up played horrible and wont even vote to save himself. Like fuck that shit I would let him burn. If I continue to bus gerit Im like instantly town read by the entire game because I was the first person to push him.
If I wanted to just get town read I stay on gerit. Theres only town motivation for sheeping my town reads.
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If I stick my vote on gerit and he flips mafia your terrible if you dont semi clear me. He tried to stick scum on me several times, I made him look terrible on several occasions if it were not for me and his half ass attacks on me no one would even vote him.
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