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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
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December 31 2014 20:24 GMT
#680
On January 01 2015 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Mafia loves knowing everything u think. Trust me

Town does too. Playing games almost never makes a mafia out himself - it just annoys fellow townies.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 20:35 GMT
#683
On January 01 2015 05:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I've seen and had plenty of good Day 1s. You're just doing the same thing here. It doesn't matter if we both agree on our reads for the most part. I think you're town, you probably think I'm town so let's forget it now. If you want to have an argument about the meta later we can. Because I do not agree and I think posting every read in thread is useless and detrimental to town. What is high and mighty about having a different opinion? I'm not going to be forthcoming with all of my thoughts and reads until I feel I can do something about them. Sorry

I'm going to refocus on TheChyz in a minute, reflecting on it I think I can make a much better case. I'm pretty sure geript is scum too, but that's based on my memory of the thread and not an actual re-reading. I will do both and whichever gains more traction I'd be willing to vote for. Unless my read changes on geript of course.

Maybe you are town but I am not sure about that yet and reasoning out your reads could very well help with that. I can't force you though.
Even a short one about marv (for example) would be nice because I seriously don't know how you can have a scumread on him at this point in time.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 20:36 GMT
#684
On January 01 2015 05:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Mafia loves knowing everything u think. Trust me

Town does too. Playing games almost never makes a mafia out himself - it just annoys fellow townies.

it doesn't work because of the way you responded to it

Yeah, yeah. Sure.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 20:41 GMT
#687
On January 01 2015 05:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 05:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I've seen and had plenty of good Day 1s. You're just doing the same thing here. It doesn't matter if we both agree on our reads for the most part. I think you're town, you probably think I'm town so let's forget it now. If you want to have an argument about the meta later we can. Because I do not agree and I think posting every read in thread is useless and detrimental to town. What is high and mighty about having a different opinion? I'm not going to be forthcoming with all of my thoughts and reads until I feel I can do something about them. Sorry

I'm going to refocus on TheChyz in a minute, reflecting on it I think I can make a much better case. I'm pretty sure geript is scum too, but that's based on my memory of the thread and not an actual re-reading. I will do both and whichever gains more traction I'd be willing to vote for. Unless my read changes on geript of course.

Maybe you are town but I am not sure about that yet and reasoning out your reads could very well help with that. I can't force you though.
Even a short one about marv (for example) would be nice because I seriously don't know how you can have a scumread on him at this point in time.


It's a gut feeling and I just wanted to see how he'd respond. He seems way too passive to me and I think if he was town he'd be a little more aggressive or serious. I need to see a lot more from him before I can say anything that matters.

Fine. Just keep in mind that being serious is definitely no towntell for him. If he keeps being passive we will lynch him day1 anyways. Like we did last game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 20:43 GMT
#689
On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching?

I am still up for ritoky or lazermonkey. Those aren't strong reads though.
I would much rather do a POE list but so many people haven't posted yet...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 20:44 GMT
#691
Maybe geript.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 20:52 GMT
#698
On January 01 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 05:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 01 2015 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 05:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I've seen and had plenty of good Day 1s. You're just doing the same thing here. It doesn't matter if we both agree on our reads for the most part. I think you're town, you probably think I'm town so let's forget it now. If you want to have an argument about the meta later we can. Because I do not agree and I think posting every read in thread is useless and detrimental to town. What is high and mighty about having a different opinion? I'm not going to be forthcoming with all of my thoughts and reads until I feel I can do something about them. Sorry

I'm going to refocus on TheChyz in a minute, reflecting on it I think I can make a much better case. I'm pretty sure geript is scum too, but that's based on my memory of the thread and not an actual re-reading. I will do both and whichever gains more traction I'd be willing to vote for. Unless my read changes on geript of course.

Maybe you are town but I am not sure about that yet and reasoning out your reads could very well help with that. I can't force you though.
Even a short one about marv (for example) would be nice because I seriously don't know how you can have a scumread on him at this point in time.


It's a gut feeling and I just wanted to see how he'd respond. He seems way too passive to me and I think if he was town he'd be a little more aggressive or serious. I need to see a lot more from him before I can say anything that matters.

Fine. Just keep in mind that being serious is definitely no towntell for him. If he keeps being passive we will lynch him day1 anyways. Like we did last game.

serious is the wrong word. i feel like he's trying not to make anyone tilt and marv isn't the kind of person who is concerned with annoying anybody

That is certainly true.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 21:04 GMT
#712
On January 01 2015 06:02 batsnacks wrote:
Has anyone played with DrH before? Is this normal?

I feel like I would be more likely to vote TheChyz if DrH wasn't pushing him.

The thread is about 30 pages long. DrH has about about a 5 page filter, of which ~90% of his filter is tunneling TheChyz.

So ~16% of the game is DrH tunneling TheChyz.

First, I think that's way too much focus on a single person in a 20 person game. DrH is the only person voting TheChyz, and I haven't heard anyone say "I agree with your case DrH," so he's obviously not reaching people.

Second, this post is really townie imo:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


So I think my conclusion would be that DrH's tunnel is not helping town.

Did you figure all this out on your own? Or did you just read the thread and saw that everyone has been saying this for ages now?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 21:04 GMT
#714
Maybe we can add batsnacks to the lynch list.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 21:12 GMT
#722
On January 01 2015 06:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe we can add batsnacks to the lynch list.

First of all I never OMGUS'd any of Chyz's defenders. Your main read is geript right? That's my second choice read. Why would I add batsnacks to the lynch list? Why would you if you're not just being sarcastic right now and I'm misunderstanding?

You said yourself you won't even bother reading any case I make on TheChyz so just ignore everything I say if that's what you need to do. 100% of this game should be tunneling TheChyz. 16% is not nearly enough.

What are you even talking about? This is not about you but about batsnacks. He just made a post rehashing what everyone already said.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 21:16 GMT
#734
On January 01 2015 06:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 06:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 01 2015 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe we can add batsnacks to the lynch list.

First of all I never OMGUS'd any of Chyz's defenders. Your main read is geript right? That's my second choice read. Why would I add batsnacks to the lynch list? Why would you if you're not just being sarcastic right now and I'm misunderstanding?

You said yourself you won't even bother reading any case I make on TheChyz so just ignore everything I say if that's what you need to do. 100% of this game should be tunneling TheChyz. 16% is not nearly enough.

What are you even talking about? This is not about you but about batsnacks. He just made a post rehashing what everyone already said.

Paranoid. Yeah I agree with you, my first thought was he stole Edens post. Just a misunderstanding. Will you please read my second case on TheChyz and the meta read as well? If you still think it's worthless I would like to lynch Robik probably. If he is a good and prolific town player like I've heard people say in the thread than his play is shocking rn

I will maybe do that tomorrow. And I don't think I want to lynch Robik today. Activity tells are pretty fucked up right now due to the timing of the start for this game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 21:17 GMT
#735
On January 01 2015 06:15 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 06:02 batsnacks wrote:
Has anyone played with DrH before? Is this normal?

I feel like I would be more likely to vote TheChyz if DrH wasn't pushing him.

The thread is about 30 pages long. DrH has about about a 5 page filter, of which ~90% of his filter is tunneling TheChyz.

So ~16% of the game is DrH tunneling TheChyz.

First, I think that's way too much focus on a single person in a 20 person game. DrH is the only person voting TheChyz, and I haven't heard anyone say "I agree with your case DrH," so he's obviously not reaching people.

Second, this post is really townie imo:
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


So I think my conclusion would be that DrH's tunnel is not helping town.

Did you figure all this out on your own? Or did you just read the thread and saw that everyone has been saying this for ages now?


Yes I did all the math myself too.

wow
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 21:18 GMT
#737
On January 01 2015 06:13 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 01 2015 05:49 geript wrote:
On January 01 2015 05:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Geript you asked me about 3 people earlier, one of them was sicklucker then you never really got back to the post after I mentioned he escaped me. Was there anything about him that you found of note? I'm scrolling through his filter and it's not bad.

I find how much he holds onto the expected meta case a bit weird and wasn't sure what to think of it. That and I don't feel like spending an hour to read 4 other games when he only has a 2 page filter. Plus I don't want to go back and have to figure out his usual post count and content per day.

Alright, let's reconstruct this. I believe it started here:
On December 31 2014 14:35 sicklucker wrote:
##vote geript for voting for shitty reasons because mafia would do that right? ;p

Geript replies 10 minutes later asking if he only played town before, then asks for a link to his previous scumgame which sicklucker declines. Sicklucker then brings it up again later (Geript asks for an opinion from Dr. H in the meantime) after which:
On December 31 2014 15:57 geript wrote:
On December 31 2014 15:55 sicklucker wrote:
Like I thought it was weird that geript is suggesting hes gonna put in the effort to get a meta weird on me so early when I have done nothing scummy. (I made a semi joke/vote to vote) to mock his one. Like this could mean anything just pointing this out for someone whos played with him alot.

It's ok babygirl. I've never meta'd anyone ever before. You'll be getting my meta v-card.

Possibly a joke, but it could definitely be interpreted as serious. If he does interpret it as serious I can see someone like sicklucker chasing the bone. Given his pretty proactive game so far I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Is that your only reason for finding him suspect?

That and he thinks I'm mafia so I naturally want to kill him. But for the most part yah that's all.

While in the shower I realized why I think Marv's mafia. Town!Marv doesn't fear lynch; he definitely doesn't fear lynch on D1.

How is marv fearlynching? Are you for real?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 21:37 GMT
#754
On January 01 2015 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's not like he would think "oh if i keep koshi on my side that will save me" just hours into the game with 1 vote on him and be paralyzed to join the thread in shitting on koshi to get himself easier credibility

True. Also someone had already said how towny it would be to go against your own defender before he did so if I remember that correctly.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 22:05 GMT
#768
Batsnacks just keeps providing new ideas noone ever had. So impressive.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 31 2014 22:23 GMT
#777
On January 01 2015 07:07 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Batsnacks just keeps providing new ideas noone ever had. So impressive.


bitch pls

I was the first person to point that out.

On January 01 2015 06:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's not like he would think "oh if i keep koshi on my side that will save me" just hours into the game with 1 vote on him and be paralyzed to join the thread in shitting on koshi to get himself easier credibility

True. Also someone had already said how towny it would be to go against your own defender before he did so if I remember that correctly.

bitch pls
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 01 2015 16:39 GMT
#881
On January 02 2015 00:25 Palmar wrote:
JAT. Parroting other players. Does it as both alignments, no idea what he is. Don't particularly care for now.

Sure that you read the game bro? lol
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 01 2015 16:45 GMT
#884
On January 01 2015 22:03 IAmRobik wrote:
Hi. I might still be drunk. Where the fuck is my homeboy marv?!?!? What are his reads?

Good question.
On January 01 2015 23:18 Superbia wrote:
Pretty sure Ritoky claimed mafia with that big post. I'll read the rest of the thread later to find the other 4.

##Vote: Ritoky

Might aswell explain this first.
On January 01 2015 23:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 23:56 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 01 2015 23:53 Koshi wrote:
I am not up for lynching ritoky I think. Looked ok. Ballsy at multiple places. Could be town being honest.

I guess Koshi is a bit less present as he is used to be. But we all should go back 6 months in time and give Koshi till Day 3. When he is mafia it gets really obvious simply because within 3 days I somewhere bled town.

I would suggest to lynch somebody who seems to be doing something but really isn't doing anything.

I don't like the latter portion of this plan. It sounds like you're saying my name without saying my name.

I wanted to add "but not Koshi" at the end. So it might be a good thing you also think like me.

I don't know yet who I want to lynch. Maybe I should look into Eden and Kelsier. They got both pretty good posts and I wouldn't consider them at all. But for some reason geript has them on top of his scumlist.

I'll go from there.

Why does it matter if geript has them as top scumreads?
On January 02 2015 00:02 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 23:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi again.

I realize that I kinda sucked yesterday. Got way to tunnely on Chyz. I will try to reread some things and reevaluate my thoughts as best as I can.

As for the "case" on me, I think its pretty weak + I will have some time to post today so I don't fear too much for my death. Won't really bother to defend myself right now but I'd rather focus on trying to get a hang on the game and figure out who I think is the best lynch!


"this is what I should say to appear town"

To me this sounds just like, if I defend myself I look scum, so im just going to act like ibwant to scum hunt. Really forced and formulaic statement.

Also if you admit you sucked yesterday then how can the case on you be weak? Explain why the case is weak

I agree with this.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 01 2015 16:47 GMT
#885
Palmar, how do we handle marv today? If he really is intentionally playing bad as town then I have no problem mislynching him to be honest.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 01 2015 17:15 GMT
#894
On January 02 2015 02:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar, how do we handle marv today? If he really is intentionally playing bad as town then I have no problem mislynching him to be honest.

This game is normal. Nothing crazy can happen. We can lynch marv D3 and we can be sure we will reach D3.

The few things marv said were pretty ok. It felt correct at that time in the game. Nothing felt odd. Nothing felt forced. It made sense.

I would go with other people for today.

I felt the same way but then why isn't he posting at all today? meh
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