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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 02 2015 21:24 GMT
#2344
Its work time for me i'll check back every hur or so to catch up and post.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 02:39 GMT
#2587
On January 03 2015 09:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
Not finished reading so prehaps someone already picked up on this. Anyway, take a look at Damdreds filter after the lynch. I think its really wierd to the point where I think its scummy. I feel the targets he is trying to push have been wierd and get the feeling that he is posting more to seem to be contributing than actually trying to figure out scum.

First, he talks about how he needs to get some sort of meta read on Superbia because he seems to see a connection. He then makes two posts about how he is looking at various games and then comes back with the conclusion that no connection was found. Why is it that he needs to SAY this in thread? Couldn't you just look it up and comment later on if he finds something interesting.

Then he talks about how SL and Eden looked bad but also that DH looked wierd. Maybe its just me but its seems really wierd that he proceeds to post more about DH than about SL and Eden. I have a hard time to understand WHY you would choose to focus DH here instead of SL or Eden.


I'm still catching up from work but I just had to stop at this post to correct what is being said.

The second post shows that hes not really reading my filter since I explained twice at least to the thread. Koshi asked me what I found similar and to show what games I looked at, I took the time went to all of the documented games and showed what I looked at. Because I said something and was asked in response some questions that I delivered on.

The last point however I think isa misrepresentation of what I said

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 03 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 03:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 03:18 Damdred wrote:
Ok i've went over the games of superbia, the two newbie games, fanfic and two mafia games ffl2 and 2p2. (And ate some yummy chinese)

My initial premise is incorrect when I go over the other games.

After some consideration I decided to throw out ffl2 for a couple of reasons, it was not normal for superbia in the sense that he replaced in during the night phase of d1 after batsnacks had gotten lynched for being unrememberable and a few other things (bats was scum here) and had a good many pages to catch up on. Rayn got killed during the night and robik and myself got mod killed (I was mafia) so super really did not have time to spam up the game in any way.

In the newbie games and fanfic it was about the same length, mostly consisting on one liners and some insightful thoughts. Usually came out to 3 pages or so a day besides the 2nd newbie where he averaged 4 pages or so. Which is right in line with his town play but always put his thoughs out their from what i read.

I did notice that even in the game i think isn't good for analysis amount of posts that super likes to bus a bit and make list posts that generally are scum reading all the team mates so if we lynch superbia at any point and he flips scum ritoky is a good place to look, but now isn't the time for associative reads.

The other thing was that besides ffl2 the posting was about on the same pace as the town games but mostly going with the flow.

Soon as super starts posting more I can determine better but I haven't seen in any games super play the lurky role.


right... so whats the point?

dam who are the scum who voted on bats


The point is that, I told Koshi (as I said before) that I was goin to check out superbias past games and try to find if this sort of lurking and sticking votes is alignment indicative because of a past experience I had in ffl2. And I posted the results I found and I was wrong.

Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik

These are the people who voted bats. I think that SL, Robik had the least amount of reasons to jump on bats. Some of the reasons that they posted were that they were sheeping basically.

Eden and myself look the worst because we told everyone who was thinking about jumping to sit and wait for the flip.

SL I think would be the scum there especially since he was the hammer vote I believe and even though he stated he wanted to hammer geript he didn't do it then sounded pretty smug after the flip.



I put a spoiler there to condense my post, the only time I mentioned Eden was that Eden and myself looked the worst for telling people to not jump and sit and wait for the flip. So its a bit of a twisting of what I said in my post. I have Eden as town, just pushing mislynches and telling people to stay makes you look bad.

It is true that I talked the most about Dr H because I got caught up in a question and went on a filter diving questioning him for a bit then I left for work. So there is that.

anyway catching up a bit and

@SL, I looked at the four documented games in he database on superbia. Only has 2 mafia games and three town games posted I believe i'm not sure what game he was mafia in that you were in if you want to link me to that one i could expand my thoughts on that a bit but otherwise I just went with what I had.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 02:59 GMT
#2605
@sl wasn't that the game that was happening during titanic mspaint? I'll look at it soon didn't see it in the database.

@laser yes your point stands but I'm not sure what's wrong with me questioning someone who's actions I was trying to understand at that point and was here?

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 03:19 GMT
#2612
Look at the last student mafia, metal mafia and carol of the bells for sl
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 04:29 GMT
#2627
I'm here but kinda laggy on responses.

I'd have to look at the contexts but yes both things can happen during different parts of the day.

Also I think I had just talked to bats during the first quote?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 04:37 GMT
#2635
I've not been asked that honestly I think

I think geript was odd and I think I had a light scum lean on him. Going into the lynch I was unsure if I wanted to lynch him based on a couple past incidents in other games and I'm not sure now the post he posted recently looks townish to me
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 04:52 GMT
#2648
On January 03 2015 13:42 KelsierSC wrote:
alright. what did you think of the other people who voted on bats? did they feel town to you?


I've had a town read on jat for awhile

Eden is town I think, the vote analysis posts and the prodding posts make me feel good about Eden.

I've made it clear I'm suspicious on Dr h especially leaving one of his top two scum alive

Sl I think is super suspect with how he's been acting and jumping back and forth.

robik idk he could be scum but more bullish for now.

who am I missing
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 05:16 GMT
#2658
Eden I was feeling pretty good about, posts seemed to have a direction.

Dr h I was suspicious of before flip and thought his tunnel was bad

Jat was town for me still is

SL was more nulish going into the flip I think hadn't really looked at him that much no filtering him at that point.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 05:23 GMT
#2662
The cases were good I thought, but there was something about one of geripts posts that just made me say I think he ahousnt be the lynch.

maybe I should of sheeped but something just bothers me about the lynch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 05:40 GMT
#2683
Did you know kel that I've played 10-15 games with bats probably since I've been here?

Every time we caught him almost was for the reasons that I posted. I think that the reasons at that point of the day were good and he was an ok lynch. I think you put to much into a point where I said I can remember to when bat faded where I forgot he was in the game both situations can exist ya know.

I think it's pretty shit conclusion tbh for bad reasoning
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 05:47 GMT
#2687
How the hell did I know hr was town he wasn't playing to his town fame that's for sure.

I'm not even sure how this is productive just feels like you are trying to role me up to make myself look bad instead of interaction
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 16:06 GMT
#2774
I just got up and finished catching up about to drop wife off at work then I'll be here all day.

Here's the deal, the nk do not clear or damn vivax honestly. Scum kills who they want generally going for super towny or dangerous people and I think Eden and koshi fit the bill for that. So it worries me people trying to clear justify based on them its really wifomy and doesn't help town at all.

@kel you really don't have a case on me kel honestly. You have what you think are me jumping on bats with bad reasons and a context less post where I say where I'm don't want to lynch bats right now cause of x. Then it changes hours later? Peoples play across days change things happen or don't happen so I'm not sure how its even a lie but a changing situation. And if you are so worried about lying why are you letting laser get away with it on me?

I am going to filter dive vivax soon as I get home to see what I can fins with an awake mins.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 17:21 GMT
#2837
Ok back from taking the wife.

Kel please answer my question, even if it isn't pertinent to you I would appreciate it.

On January 04 2015 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like we let a guy who posted a baby seal see another day. I'm disappointed.


I mean you go hard against vivax and then you post this and instead of following up on it and trying to push the discussion to it you go hard on vivax again?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 17:31 GMT
#2848
On January 04 2015 02:28 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam I'm guessing you quoted the wrong thing




No, i asked you to go back and look what i wrote earlier then i moved on to asking ve what he was doing, should of page broke it i suppose but yea.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 17:33 GMT
#2850
On January 04 2015 01:06 Damdred wrote:
I just got up and finished catching up about to drop wife off at work then I'll be here all day.

Here's the deal, the nk do not clear or damn vivax honestly. Scum kills who they want generally going for super towny or dangerous people and I think Eden and koshi fit the bill for that. So it worries me people trying to clear justify based on them its really wifomy and doesn't help town at all.

@kel you really don't have a case on me kel honestly. You have what you think are me jumping on bats with bad reasons and a context less post where I say where I'm don't want to lynch bats right now cause of x. Then it changes hours later? Peoples play across days change things happen or don't happen so I'm not sure how its even a lie but a changing situation. And if you are so worried about lying why are you letting laser get away with it on me?

I am going to filter dive vivax soon as I get home to see what I can fins with an awake mins.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 17:41 GMT
#2860
On January 03 2015 09:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
Not finished reading so prehaps someone already picked up on this. Anyway, take a look at Damdreds filter after the lynch. I think its really wierd to the point where I think its scummy. I feel the targets he is trying to push have been wierd and get the feeling that he is posting more to seem to be contributing than actually trying to figure out scum.

First, he talks about how he needs to get some sort of meta read on Superbia because he seems to see a connection. He then makes two posts about how he is looking at various games and then comes back with the conclusion that no connection was found. Why is it that he needs to SAY this in thread? Couldn't you just look it up and comment later on if he finds something interesting.

Then he talks about how SL and Eden looked bad but also that DH looked wierd. Maybe its just me but its seems really wierd that he proceeds to post more about DH than about SL and Eden. I have a hard time to understand WHY you would choose to focus DH here instead of SL or Eden.



On January 03 2015 22:48 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 22:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
@Kel

I'm interested in killing Dam. Just sayin'.

And, to avoid missunderstanding, its not because of what I posted yesterday but moreso about that he is really avoiding all relevant discussion and not scum hunting. He is responding to everyone when they are attacking him or asking him questions and yes, you can see that he has scum reads. But he doesn't seem to give a shit about getting them lynched.


Twice now hes lied about me or misrepresented the facts at least. I called him out for the first post and he took it back basically, the second post is misrepresenting again. I obviously gave a shit about getting a scum read lynched since you know i lynched batsnacks which is the heaet i'm getting. I haven't avoided relevant discussion i've been involved in most of everything while i've been here, its just a total misrepresentation and I know you think i'm scum but why are you letting him slide by for it when you are so gun ho on me?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 17:48 GMT
#2866
I do kind of like that point that Vivax is making though, Robik didn't really follow through with what he was talking during the night.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 17:56 GMT
#2871
On January 04 2015 02:50 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 02:41 Damdred wrote:
On January 03 2015 09:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
Not finished reading so prehaps someone already picked up on this. Anyway, take a look at Damdreds filter after the lynch. I think its really wierd to the point where I think its scummy. I feel the targets he is trying to push have been wierd and get the feeling that he is posting more to seem to be contributing than actually trying to figure out scum.

First, he talks about how he needs to get some sort of meta read on Superbia because he seems to see a connection. He then makes two posts about how he is looking at various games and then comes back with the conclusion that no connection was found. Why is it that he needs to SAY this in thread? Couldn't you just look it up and comment later on if he finds something interesting.

Then he talks about how SL and Eden looked bad but also that DH looked wierd. Maybe its just me but its seems really wierd that he proceeds to post more about DH than about SL and Eden. I have a hard time to understand WHY you would choose to focus DH here instead of SL or Eden.



On January 03 2015 22:48 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 03 2015 22:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
@Kel

I'm interested in killing Dam. Just sayin'.

And, to avoid missunderstanding, its not because of what I posted yesterday but moreso about that he is really avoiding all relevant discussion and not scum hunting. He is responding to everyone when they are attacking him or asking him questions and yes, you can see that he has scum reads. But he doesn't seem to give a shit about getting them lynched.


Twice now hes lied about me or misrepresented the facts at least. I called him out for the first post and he took it back basically, the second post is misrepresenting again. I obviously gave a shit about getting a scum read lynched since you know i lynched batsnacks which is the heaet i'm getting. I haven't avoided relevant discussion i've been involved in most of everything while i've been here, its just a total misrepresentation and I know you think i'm scum but why are you letting him slide by for it when you are so gun ho on me?


I don't disagree with what he has been saying though. Indont really know why you went and analysed super. And yeh i think at the time the group of sl,Eden and drh drh was, unfortunately , the most town.

The second point I don't disagree with either. You disagree with him on the way you have been playing but i don't think he is deliberately mid interpreting you. In my mind you haven't really scum hunted at all.

I mean, do you think you have projected a strong town game and anyone who scum reads you is lying?


Actually yes, i think i've played decently well especially for being on a holiday thats generally one of my busiest of the year with family and with the business. Besides that i've poked holes in people (early post of lazer) poked at dr h, did teh super thing because koshi asked for references. Dr. H is only super town to you because he has a super long filter honestly

You don't disagree with it because you are biased towards me, you are just being hypocritical in the extreme.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 20:02 GMT
#2946
On January 04 2015 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 03:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Honestly we should just vote Superbia until he starts shitting townie bricks. 5 posts since D1 is unacceptable.
##Unvote Vivax
##Vote Superbia

I sorta like this too. But honestly the thought of lynching anyone but geript makes my ass twitch.


VE what are you talking about here? You have a vote on vivax, and i pointed it out earlier, you barely mention geript today vote vivax and go hard at vivax without really pushing geript?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 20:06 GMT
#2954
On January 04 2015 05:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 05:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 04 2015 03:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Honestly we should just vote Superbia until he starts shitting townie bricks. 5 posts since D1 is unacceptable.
##Unvote Vivax
##Vote Superbia

I sorta like this too. But honestly the thought of lynching anyone but geript makes my ass twitch.

That's weird considering your vote is not on geript.

marv and Palmar are both on Vivax, whom I also enjoy a lynch on. You think I can convince marv and Palmar to do anything? Ever?


This is a lame excuse there are more than just marv and palmar in the thread doing things
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