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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
January 17 2015 15:21 GMT
#10109
Palmar, I get that you don't always have time. Still this is so sad because I am positive that this game would have went really differently had you actually played when I was still alive.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
January 17 2015 16:06 GMT
#10130
On January 18 2015 00:27 Palmar wrote:
Also I don't understand why people are so resistant to advice. I am not a great mafia player, but I have played more than just about anyone here (maybe with VE as an exception). When I say shit, it's not because I like spouting random nonsense, it's because trial and error, in addition with what I learned from people who played before, has taught me that despite anecdotal evidence (hey look, this worked once), there are certain things that are generally good or bad to do. Some examples:

  • Don't voteswitch in the last few hours of the day. Have the lynch lined up at least 4 hours prior and an alternative in case the target goes balls to the walls town on us all.
  • Don't fakeclaim as town. Do your best to be a target for mafia if you're vanilla. Make them fear you to protect the blues. Don't try to wifom a shot out of them because it fucks with other townies even more.
  • Don't make associative reads. You do not know what the mafia wants to do, you're literally handing them weapons to use against you if you allow their actions to control your reads.
  • Don't use meta unless you absolutely know what you're doing. Generally only use meta on people you know extremely well, and only trust meta when it focuses on overall style, not specific things.


There's probably a ton more. I keep saying these things, and we keep failing on them.

I somewhat disagree with point 1 but it is situational.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
January 17 2015 16:08 GMT
#10131
Like if I have doubts about both wagons then I WILL push the scumread I am more confident on and I don't think that is wrong at all.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
January 17 2015 16:16 GMT
#10133
On January 18 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 01:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if I have doubts about both wagons then I WILL push the scumread I am more confident on and I don't think that is wrong at all.

Sure, but you have to understand what you're losing.

I guess the main problem is people voting too late. Like there needs to be a compelling reason to actually votswitch. None of these I listed is a hard and fast rule, the problem is that everyone thinks they're the unique snowflake the rules don't apply to.

If you use hours 36-48 to decide the actual lynch, close to 100% of the people in town get to help make that choice. if you only use hours 44-48 to do it, you're cutting off a significant portion of town.

Back in the day, late deadlines (US deadlines), were much more common than they are now. And towns would sometimes impose "soft" deadlines on themselves to make sure you include everyone in the process. Basically "we're not changing the lynch after this unless there's a massively good reason to".

That's all really nice in theory but many people won't even defend themselves properly before it is really late. And the closer you get to the deadline the more obvious scum gets usually.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
January 18 2015 18:50 GMT
#10182
On January 19 2015 03:32 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm upset. I called out the play and then just tr'ed all the scum. Vivax, I'm disappointed in you though. You played that one day so poorly

Which of the first 5 days are you talking about?
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