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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 04:11 GMT
#6138
I just noticed superbia voting for me LOLOLOL
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 04:37 GMT
#6139
not sure if i should vote superbia or make sure ritoky dies
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 04:43 GMT
#6141
it's gonna look so bad if super flips town and then i don't get night killed
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:02 GMT
#6168
lolololololololol
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:04 GMT
#6170
sorry geript. if i was paying attention we would have killed superbia over you
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:12 GMT
#6172
On January 08 2015 15:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Where did marv placed his vote?

probably on ritoky
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:13 GMT
#6173
On January 01 2015 23:18 Superbia wrote:
Pretty sure Ritoky claimed mafia with that big post. I'll read the rest of the thread later to find the other 4.

##Vote: Ritoky

guess i must be mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:14 GMT
#6174
On January 04 2015 06:07 Superbia wrote:
Also LazerMonkey is probably mafia. Starts off tunneling chyz with meh reasons (which is sort of townie). Tunnel starts wearing off and Lazer then gets ninjad by the very same chyz (p33) providing a similar opinion on someone (I think Koshi), which should give an instant town boner.

Lazer starts off the very next day by apologizing on tunneling on chyz too hard (#850), which implies chyz is town (TMI). Great, so chyz should be in your town-circle then, right? Nope, when others start pushing hard on chyz, lazer is just like "lol, I guess I'm okay with lynching chyz" (not exact quote).

Why the fuck would you ever be okay with lynching chyz after all this? You had the information from pushing him early on. Which, from both an objective perspective and your posts, leads me to believe he was town in your eyes.

chyz probably town
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:16 GMT
#6175
On January 05 2015 06:48 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 06:42 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Ah Robik, can you explain why you put me at the top of your scumlist?

I EXPLAINED IT BEFORE. GO FUCKING READ MY FILTER. I LITERALLY EXPLAINED IT TWO SECONDS AFTER YOU ASKED ME THE FIRST TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO FUCKING KEEP REPEATING IT. YOU HAD 2 POSTS ON DAY ONE AND THEY WERE BOTH TRASH AND THEN YOU DISAPPEARED. ME AND EDEN WERE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH.


So not playing d1 is alignment indicative? Indicative enough for me to be your top-scum? I would like to point you to a game (fanfic crossover) in which I was also unable to play d1 and I ended up being town. Spoiler alert: you did not read me mafia that game even though it's essentially the same situation. You were town that game. What's up with that?

Also the all-caps is very convincing.

oh god. i'm sorry for busing you so hard superbia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:17 GMT
#6176
On January 05 2015 07:07 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 07:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:51 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:48 Superbia wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:42 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 05 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Ah Robik, can you explain why you put me at the top of your scumlist?

I EXPLAINED IT BEFORE. GO FUCKING READ MY FILTER. I LITERALLY EXPLAINED IT TWO SECONDS AFTER YOU ASKED ME THE FIRST TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO FUCKING KEEP REPEATING IT. YOU HAD 2 POSTS ON DAY ONE AND THEY WERE BOTH TRASH AND THEN YOU DISAPPEARED. ME AND EDEN WERE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH.


So not playing d1 is alignment indicative? Indicative enough for me to be your top-scum? I would like to point you to a game (fanfic crossover) in which I was also unable to play d1 and I ended up being town. Spoiler alert: you did not read me mafia that game even though it's essentially the same situation. You were town that game. What's up with that?

Also the all-caps is very convincing.

I didn't play d1 and I still had 30x as many posts as you. You didn't play much on N1 either. You should be embarrassed of your performance if you're town.


You didn't play d1 that game? Why does that matter?

The fact is that you're reading me scum here for a (bad) reason, while you did not read me scum before in another game in a similar situation in which you were town.

How do you explain that?


It isn't a bad reason at all


This is not imperative to my argument.

1. Robik plays in fanfic crossover. Superbia plays in fanfic crossover. Superbia does not play day 1. Robik does not scum-read Superbia for not playing day 1.

2. Robik plays in imperial. Superbia plays in imperial. Superbia does not play day 1. Robik scum-reads Superbia for not playing day 1.

you got your colors mixed up a little bro
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:28 GMT
#6178
cause like. i'm trying to keep the kill off of superbia DUHH. Like, VE already called me out on it broseph


Also, the people who should NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER BE FUCKING LYNCHED EVER. IF YOU LYNCH THESE PEOPLE I'M GOING TO FUCKING BERATE THE FUCK OUT OF YOU POST GAME ARE:
me
DrH
marv
sicklucker
damdred
artanis
kelsier

The people who now look a bit better to me are:
vivax (ugh, it pains me to say this so much -- he might still be lynch-worthy though)
TheChyz (per one of the posts i quoted on page 309)

People who should ABSOLUTELY BE LYNCHED:
ritoky
GlowingBear
Lazermonkey
Palmar

I hold the right to reevaluate on lazermonkey again tomorrow as I will be reading his posts. If that doesn't win you the game, you can decide between chyz and vivax, but i would lean vivax. Artanis and Kelsier can be reevaluated under emergency situations, but they're probably unlynchable.

Like NEVER EVER EVER TOUCH THE FIRST 5.
ME
DRH
MARV
SICKLUCKER
DAMDRED


THOSE ARE YOUR FUCKING LOCK CLEARS
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:30 GMT
#6180
Also, shoutout to Eden for sheeping my reads d1 and coming to the conclusion that superbia and ritoky were mafia. You're the best sheeper ever
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:34 GMT
#6182
I'm gonna check you sicklucker
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:35 GMT
#6183
I'm pretty sure there's only 1 logical check at this point. MYSELF!
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:39 GMT
#6187
On January 08 2015 15:36 sicklucker wrote:
You wanting to kill ritoky is expected. What I didnt like is that at one point you said you were down for super but you clearly lied or changed your mind.

Im more concerned on why marv and palmer ended up on ritoky. Maybe im overthinking it. I doubt it matters if their both mafia. I just think if they were town they would want mafia to sort out this out for us in the night and kill the obvious confirmed mafia.

marv voted cause he's a pussy
palmar voted cause he's mafia

marv is a shitty mafia player and if he's 1 day off of mylo, he's not gonna bus his partner there
palmar is lazy and spent all day not posting and then decided to try to push a lynch onto damdred at EOD instead of ritoky or superbia, and damdred is confirmed town at this point

As for me not voting superbia...i started playing hots. I looked at the time and saw it was 1am and i'm like "SHIT" i went to the thread and saw superbia lynched and then i giggled
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 06:40 GMT
#6188
On January 08 2015 15:38 sicklucker wrote:
We have literally 4 claimed checks and they are all fucking trash.

you're a trash tier cop if you think that checking people you think are going to turn up red is a good strategy in this setup. you check your town reads who you think are going to survive as long into the game as possible, especially when you're playing like me and are universally scum read, but you aren't scummy enough to ever get pushed
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 13:42 GMT
#6326
DP...don't worry about trying too hard as you are confirmed town
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 13:43 GMT
#6327
Vivax, I'll explain why you look better later, but it had to do with reading superbias filter
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 14:40 GMT
#6332
On January 05 2015 08:54 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 08:49 Damdred wrote:
Can we please lynch super, I have a real feeling this is scrum. Please trust my gut this isn't town Super, totally different tone and posting.


Elaboration would be grand.


On January 05 2015 13:46 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 13:44 Damdred wrote:
Vivax would you switch to super? I don't want to yrll lots but I still think this is a solid lynch


Oh hey. Can you sum up your case on me in 0 posts again? Thanks.



I think there was stuff with ritoky that also makes damdred look good, but I don't remember all of it. Let me see if I can't find it.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 08 2015 14:44 GMT
#6334
On January 04 2015 09:03 ritoky wrote:
wow this is actually a read i really like.

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred.

Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong.

Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads?

So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post

On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away.

Quick thought list

I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page.

Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either.

Not too impressive imo.

BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum!


especially when you look at a post like this:

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:
On January 04 2015 08:18 ritoky wrote:
marv is still mafia too, his reads are really lazy and stale.

still think it's:
SL
marv
vivax

vivax because that post by koshi on sequencing is really good, altho when i looked in the vote thread i had some hesitations. maybe i will uncover more as i catch up


Why are you bein so lazy ritoky? You did no vote analysis on what happened yesterday and no thought process sabout whats going on now? You said SL is mafia but you have vivax down but you vote SL over vivax who is the vote leader? Shouldn't you be happy with whats going on?

What are you doing?


he doesn't seem really all that indignant or perturbed in terms of tone. it is just too calm, like he is completely content.

that and damdred seems to be moving his scum reads to whomever is in season rather than holding to them. i remember him being more firm as town. he could be mafia too.


On January 04 2015 09:06 ritoky wrote:
i also notice that damdred makes a lot of people's scum lists as a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th scum; but never really gets pushed that much or voted on. hm, lazer might be onto something here.


On January 04 2015 09:30 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I'm not really getting ritokys read on me, people say i'm defensive ritoky says i'm completely content. I really smell bullshit honestly. The game marches forward I should take in all the evidence and re evaluate as I go along, Ritoky says i'm moving my reads to whoever is in season? But I think i've been pretty consistant with who i've went after so far.


Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:21 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Soo, about the 3 "protagonists"

Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though.

DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today.

rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him.


Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me

I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you?

Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why?

Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me

We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters.


I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read.

However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum

The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value.


I think I somewhat disagree, I think its valuable because of being able to figure out alignments. But that's not exactly my point.

The point is laz is giving drh a free pass for the day even though he says deh says a lot of bad things but its more of a null read. (reads like setting up a mislynch later)

The Eden read seems like a scum read without any real conclusions.

And the rit part is just null.

I just don't like where he's going and seems made up a bit


here's you being overly polite.

Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 02:39 Damdred wrote:
You put a good bit of work in but i'm just not sure if that makes him mafia necessarily.


abbreviated quote for space, here's it again with you commenting on drH's case.

i mean i am like 2 pages in with 5 examples i can pull of you being excessively polite when there's no cause. i like lazer's read. i don't think you're defensive in the slightest i think you're content. people reading you otherwise have a poor read.

your scum reads are not consistent at all. first and foremost here's the best i can make of your d1 scum reads:

lazer slight scum read altho you weren'tfully on the gas (but no vote). then no more all day. then shennanie on bats for bad reason.

your n1 scum reads:

Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:
SL I think would be the scum there especially since he ws the hammer vote I believe and even though he stated he wanted to hammer geript he didn't do it then sounded pretty smug after the flip.


outside of SL you bring back up your lazer read, suddenly after seeing drH as town all day the previous day you have a scum lean on him.

end of night phase:

Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote:
Sl I think is super suspect with how he's been acting and jumping back and forth.

robik idk he could be scum but more bullish for now.


your lazer read is neglected (only consistent read), robik has appeared out of thin air and SL is still scummy. drH is gone again.

todays reads:

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote:
I actually would rather lynch into super, lazer and ritoky now.


suddenly lazer is back, i have made an appearance, and super is here; but robik is gone.

I wouldn't call this consistent.

lazer/bats -> SL/lazer/drH -> SL/robik -> Lazer/super/ritoky

I would in fact call that quite seasonal.

Your only consistent read is lazer. Further it is almost like you're distinctively attempting to avoid reading what people call "tier 1 players". You don't give definitive stances in terms of scum reads on almost any major thing happening in the game. So either you think all of these people are town fighting in which case you're not doing much to stop it or you are positioning yourself to have no real definitive stance so you can fall on whatever side is best for you. So pardon me if I think that lazer has a couple good points and after i heeded koshi's advice to look at your filter I found my own question marks. (see what i did there with the over-politeness?)


On January 07 2015 06:25 ritoky wrote:
Robik's world based on this post:

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 00:50 IAmRobik wrote:
2; GlowingBear - lean scum
4; Artanis[XP] - lean town
5; Lazermonkey - lean heavy town
6; Marvellosity - step it up sson
9; TheChyz - unsure
10; Palmar - unsure
11; Damdred - unsure
13; sicklucker - lean town but unsure
14; Vivax - lean heavy scum
15; KelsierSC - lean town
16; ritoky - lean town
17; DoctorHelvetica - had the towniest town of any town d1 and is basically confirmed town even with the d2 drop off
20; Superbia - lean scum



I kount vot and stahp it


ritoky (1): Superbia
TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz
geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks
sicklucker (1): ritoky
Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear
Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik

Not Voting: folks

batsnacks is lynched.

until deadline.




I Count this vote sons


Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky
Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc)
IAmRobik (1): Superbia
geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP]

Geript is lynched.
Deadline is in


reposting the votes with my town reads

blue = robik's town reads from the above post
red = robik's scum reads
Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis.

Doing cursory analysis of your reads here robik, this is like super compelling evidence for you that damdred is mafia. Like there's 2 worlds.

World 1) You believe someone who RQ on day 1 when tunneled is mafia or palmar and marv are mafia together AND the day 1 lynch was 100% town

or

World 2) Damdred is mafia

So why are you unsure on damdred? Do you think palmar and marv could be together?




Maybe I'm wrong and damdred is the scum buddy he chose to bus this game? IDK. I really think that it looks better for damdred
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