Imperial Mafia - Page 2

On January 01 2015 01:49 KelsierSC wrote:
so Lazer monkey one of your main points about chyz is that he didn't have a town/scum read early on and didn't give it till someone pushed him, yet you are also unable to give a read on any of the 3 main protagonists in the early game. (eden, drh and rit) . So you are scum to?

On January 01 2015 02:06 IAmRobik wrote:

Thanks buddy.

Regarding the game...I have absolutely no ideas as I have read maybe like 3 total posts. I thought this would start Friday, so I was kinda surprised when I saw there were 13-14 pages. I"m kinda intimidated now that there are 25 pages and my desire to catch up is non-existent. I will give you my assurance that I have rolled quite the favorable alliance (given my extreme disdain for rolling mafia, it should be easy to figure out what that is), and I will be helping in the mass execution of all mafiosos.

On January 01 2015 02:16 IAmRobik wrote:

We're getting off on the wrong foot -- see the thing is...i'm town, so even if i'm wasting space, you shouldn't lynch me...especially on day 1. Everyone here knows that I'm a super productive member of town, even if I'm a pain in the ass. So I implore you to give me the benefit of the doubt and just accept that I will come out firing when I have the time to put into the game -- which just so happens to be AFTER A FUCKING HOLIDAY

On January 01 2015 02:16 Damdred wrote:


So Artanis, why are you focusing on Robik so much for not reading the thread? GB has said that hes not reading the thread and won't catch up today for sure but you haven't even mentioned that?

On January 01 2015 02:12 TheChyz wrote:




Problem is that the other reads you have made is based on the fact that you dont have much (as I have bolded) and as such they are not good enough reads. You should have some more reads than me and robik. Let's hear some scum hunting and not 24/7 bandwagoning.

On December 31 2014 18:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
TheChyz is mafia

The foundation of my argument is that TheChyz superficially chose eden1892 when asked for his reads. When I dismiss his initial reasons, he further contradicts the premise of his read and then changes the reasons when asked about it by ritoky. Let's go through his post history with context.



This post is supposed to be uncontroversial. I realize now I initially misread part of this post but it changes nothing. The important part is colored in red.



Let's sum up the Eden read:
1. Eden is my largest scum read.
2. He is scummy because he uses defensive wording.
3. He is scummy because he is not jumping on anyone strongly.
4. He is scummy because he is playing cautiously and fearfully.

Of all players in this game this about describes Eden the least. What about the myriad of other players who have yet to accuse anyone of being mafia?



This post comes before TheChyz's second post. Eden is one of only two players in the game to even vote up until this point. Why oh why considering this would eden stand out specifically to TheChyz as a player who is
1. Defensive
2. Not jumping on anyone
3. Too cautious

This is the first time in the game that TheChyz expresses immediate suspicion towards someone who votes for him.



1. Everyone is suspicious
2. I am suspicious
3. The only thing that makes eden seem scummy is his wording doesn't seem right.

I'm not sure what "The wording isn't right" means. Earlier TheChyz has more specific reasons, but I guess he kinda forgot about them or whatever. It was only his largest scum read so those kinds of things don't matter. Shoot, he's just suspicious of everybody so it doesn't really matter!

I wonder when TheChyz will have something substantial to say. Apparently his scumreads aren't very substantial at all as he says himself.



With this post let's try to get a masterlist of all the things you think about Eden, your #1 scumread. Sorry if I'm redundant.

1. Eden is my largest scumread.
2. Eden is scummy because he uses defensive wording.
3. Eden is scummy because he is afraid of jumping on anyone. (I would assume this means accusing, pressuring,voting - all things Eden had done before he brought this up)
4. Eden is scummy because he seems cautious and fearful.
5. Eden is scummy just because his wording just doesn't seem right.
6. I have no reason to vote for Eden.
7. Voting for eden is a garbage vote.
8. Eden is the least towny of all the players.

And then:


Eden's soft accusations resulted in a vote on you pages ago. Now you're accusing me of being soft for not voting for you but eden is soft for whatever reason because I guess you have to stick to your guns or something. I'll wait a few more hours to vote and see how long you chase your tail over it

On January 01 2015 01:53 Damdred wrote:
Good morning my friends, i'll be haphazardly here all day. Sadly I have to work tonight and its one of the busiest days of the year haha. So lets get to it

The ritoky and Dr. H fight wasn't as pointless as people think. It left a very distinct taste in my mouth about both of their alignments.

In carol (Ritokys most recent mafia game) I caught ritoky for being super passive, with no follow up and no real push early on to speak of and only when confronted with this information he would passively give a wall of text to explain away what he was doing. You can look at Season of a witch I believe and see the same thing in his scum game. So i'm leaning more town on ritoky due to the fact that he said someone was acting scummy and went after said person instead of dropping it, he had really good follow up at this point even if the avenue he went down was really a different approach than what I probably would of done.

Dr H reaction to some of the things left me feeling a bit weird. Firstly he seems to have a deep suspicion of Ritoky after the conversation is starting to calm down a bit and even says that Ritoky looks bad. But you never really get a sense about what his read is, their really is no follow up besides DrH saying that he is just going to ignore Ritoky trying to do things from this point forward, which he ends up trying to explain himself a few posts later but then drops it. From all of the interaction with Ritoky (good or bad) he should of been able to formulate some form of opinion on Ritokys alignment. And yet right after the fight has affectingly ended he calls Geript scum but never pushes it at all and then moves on to chyz. Im going to put him in the leaning scum category here.

Geript just lacks something right now, hes not quite as posty as he normally would be and is really tight lipped about his thoughts. Also his post about being ableto read Palmar koshi etc really ruffled me a bit and reminded me a lot about when he was scum in russia. Hes in the leaning scum category presently

On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:


Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me

I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you?

Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why?

Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me

On January 01 2015 02:27 Damdred wrote:


Since you aren't in the mood to lynch geript today, are you going to try to push robik down the lynch today? Or just trying to get him to do stuff

On January 01 2015 02:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

Attempt to steer the thread in WHAT DIRECTION? his fake read on eden that he himself said he wouldnt bother voting for?

Popping in the thread to say hey guys, you all suck, peace out is scummy. All he did was try to shut ritoky down. All of chuz and koshi posts are fake scum posts.

On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:


I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read.

However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum