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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 01:58 Lazermonkey wrote: This doesn't make any sense what so ever. I'm sorry. Hes asking you if you have thoughts on the three people who are getting a good bit of discussion going atm, if one person is scummy for not being able t do this are you scum. | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote: I don't like how koshi entered the thread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me. I don't see where people are getting this geript thing. If someone can enlighten me but I liked his intros into the thread, nothing amazing but better than the other fluff people were posting. Later on he has seem to slacked off a bit but other than not seeming to scum hunt as much as I'm used he doesn't seem scummy. null for me. Maybe you guys know him better than I and have a bad feeling but I don't see anything conclusive. I don't like lazer atm. He hasn't really done any scum hunting this game and is rehashing old stuff and using it again. The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right. His case on me can be thought of both ways and as such is pointless. Basically his reasoning is if I was scum and was asked to push my thoughts I would. But the same case can be made of me as town. I don't like his play atm and want more from him. ##Vote: Lazermonkey Could you one talk more about lazer deserves your vote over someone say Robik who is typically a ton more posty as town. We have posted a ton of stuff on geript what is your thoughts about it? Why are you taking this stance without even attacking kels case or any of the other things people have posted? And finally the bolded how was his entrance better....he claimed town by first post that seems such a weird thing to incluce | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 02:03 justanothertownie wrote: Damdred are you just questioning Chyz right now or do you scumread Robik? Do you think Chyz knows Robiks meta? I'm just questioning Chyz. I don't know Chyz experience with robik but he brought him up and wrote him off pretty easily. I'm undecided about Robik right now. | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 02:06 TheChyz wrote: I don't usually pay much attention to people until they actually do something. Ionno, its kinda like ppl policy lynching lurkers and such (since that is kinda what robik is doing). By no means is he town but also saying nothing is not really anything to jump on top of, at least not yet anyway. Usually lurkers lurk by day 1 and if he wants to do that, fine. Doesn't mean he will probably last day 2 if he continues that way. By entrance I meant more like the first few posts of the game. Ionno, it just felt very similar to the other time I played with him in which he was town. I don't think any of the posts on geript hold any real substance (unless I scimmed through an important one too quickly) and are kinda more like peoples soft reads on him. Well I point you to Kels post if you haven't read it. The case is pretty decent for this early,do you just write that off as no substance? How many games have you played with geript so far? I can understand the stance on robik, but he is more lurky as mafia i'm not sure if i've ever seen him lurk as town. | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi Robik. I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation. Kind regards, Artanis So Artanis, why are you focusing on Robik so much for not reading the thread? GB has said that hes not reading the thread and won't catch up today for sure but you haven't even mentioned that? | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Calm down dear, you still have until the deadline to show as such. Because Robik has said Hi like 3 times during the day showing he was present. Besides, I'm familiar with Robik and I like annoying him. Since you aren't in the mood to lynch geript today, are you going to try to push robik down the lynch today? Or just trying to get him to do stuff | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 02:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote: This post is proof the chyz is scum basically. How are you all not seeing this Explain why its scum, and while you are at it give us a read on ritoky | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 02:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Everyone read this again. Thechyz has yet to contribute a thought out read or try scumhunting. All his votes are jist omgus and hes still telling people he suspects them basically for not scumhunting or having strong reads. It doesn't get much worse. There is no reason we should not lynch thechyz day 1. Then why aren't you voting him? All of this push and you aren't voting? | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Soo, about the 3 "protagonists" Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though. DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today. rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him. Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you? Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why? Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me | ||
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Damdred
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gotta get ready for first part of shift brb | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 02:44 marvellosity wrote: can you tell me what was "really good" about the followup, damdy? Sure he didn't say things and let them die like he did in his two scum games I showed. Look in carol mafia his first few posts were mainly fluffand then he made a point about froggy, believe it was, and then he never even mentioned it again until he was called out for lack of follow up. Here he does not have that at all. He is ready to go doesn't drop what he sees and presses that angle until its over. To me that's good followup to try to figure out someone's alignment even if it is down a odd angle | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote: We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters. I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read. However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 02:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: What's the point of this question? Do you have a scumread on Koshi? Just trying to figure out your motivations herr | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 03:17 justanothertownie wrote: The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value. I think I somewhat disagree, I think its valuable because of being able to figure out alignments. But that's not exactly my point. The point is laz is giving drh a free pass for the day even though he says deh says a lot of bad things but its more of a null read. (reads like setting up a mislynch later) The Eden read seems like a scum read without any real conclusions. And the rit part is just null. I just don't like where he's going and seems made up a bit | ||
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Damdred
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Damdred
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Some thoughts @SL, I think you are drawing conclusions based off something that is a nonissue to this game. There was a specific mechanic that Ritoky used for his aggressive push which...turned out to be a dud in that case since his earlier game presence was so weak and he was caught the day or so before being useless. I don't see aggression by itself to be necessarily towny or scummy but the way he went about it and trying to figure things out for himself looked different then any scum game i've seen him play in. @Dr H. You seem to be scum reading geript currently is that correct? Also yu seem to be forming scum and town reads based off on support or disagreement with your case. Don't you think thats a bit dangerous since townies can disagree with points? @Eden, Right now i'm in the camp of wanting lazzermonkey to be dead. His initial posting in the thread was highly opportunistic at the time of his entrance it seems to me. There was decent pressure on chez (as well as all game) and it was the easy thing to do and it led straight to a vote. He also says that chyz is guilty of looking active but not really pushing the thread forward. And he is guilty of this as well every time he posts it seems to just fit right into where the thread is at at the moment without pushing it towards anything really. He always agrees it seems, and his reads just feel really fabricated at the time his null reads that he said he wouldn't make up just feel made up to me. | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 09:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why dont u pick apart lazermonkeys filter damdred? Otherwise your case is worthless My case is only worthless if the thread sees it as worthless and not worth discussing. Posting a few quotes here and there do not make a case worthwhile or fun. So instead of trying to act one way why don't you read what I wrote and respond in a consructive manner | ||
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Damdred
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I guess thats good for you | ||
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Damdred
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I know how to strengthen and push my read and it isn't ramming it down the threads throat, I can just as easily compose a case on someone with or without quotes. The filter is there to see if I took things out of context or not, it has opinions in it thats why we talk about things. | ||
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Damdred
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On January 01 2015 09:47 GlowingBear wrote: Ok I've started reading the game a bit before New Years Eve and I must say I don't like DrH opening, geripts call on damdred and I have a slight townread on Eden. Which geripts call on me? | ||
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