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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 15:42 GMT
#5169
2; GlowingBear- Glowingbears d1 and d2 were largely forgettable as in GB wasn't here doing anything. I actually believe GB that he was just busy and doing holiday things during this time period. Being two hundred or so pages behind GB seems to attack people through looking at filters or whats going on in the game directly.

We see that GB goes after the harder targets in the game which is alignment indicative of GB. If you look in GBs past mafia games he rarely goes after the hard target, in arnie got a gun gb did go after robik some but overall he still went after the easy mislynches (and robik was getting a good bit of heat at the time) but he finally settled on templar to get a kill for that day and then went on to focus on me. If you then look at Fanfiction Mafia, GB mainly tunneled onto me throughout the whole game as I was viewed as a weaker town read but was pretty easy to get lost in that.

Look at recent town games of GB, GB went after the heavy hitters in HF (carol), Marv (Russian), JAT (here). I really think that this is alignment indicative at this point in GBs mafia play after this game its possibly not because i've posted and he will change his meta again. When GB is here he is putting his neck out for reads even if some of them come off as a bit tin foil hat. Overall I think GB is town today and gets more time to develop reads right now and contribute.

4; Artanis[XP] - Artanis seems pretty town to me, has been engaged in everything that the thread has been throwing out. Has tried to push his lynch forward and has seemed to logically go about things in a good way. Also seems to have pretty good follow up with the questioning phase and looks to find if things are lining up. I think right now Artanis is in my top three town reads.

5; Lazermonkey - Lazermonkey is scum. If you look at my case d1, kels case d1 and n2, you will see that he is scum. He is super defensive about everything the moment he gets pressure. He misrepresents a ton of things going on in the thread and when confronted with it backtracks a good deal (one of his posts towards me, misrepresents me and SL at points). He has scum reads at certain points and is super happy to lynch them but then forgets about them when the thread does and almst never pushes them again (scum read on me when kel relented lm never did again and now sl is scum). Hard defends someone who his probably mafia I think hes mafia.

6; Marvellosity - I'm going to be putting marv into the town pile right now. While his play leaves something to be desired especially around lynch time, he seems to give opinions as the game goes along and seems to care. Just comparing this game to any of his recent games you can see it looks closer to his town games then it does his scum games. I really think that he has given some good thoughts to the game and really wish he would knowledge bomb us though and find some mafia. Also this marv kind of reminds me of Cell Marv where he was town but didn't care as much because some people didn't listen to him early. Hes probably a mid tier to lower tier town read but i wouldn't lynch him.

8; IAmRobik - I think Robik is probably town, hes really tunneled at this point. Its more of a gut thing than anything and is a super weak read, his fights seemed a bit weird to me and contrived at points and kinda made VE rage quit. Promised to do more and has done a bit so i'm not sure but I think town.

9; TheChyz (replaced)- I think earlier I talked about how the slot is more than likely town for a few reasons, it was tunneled into for pretty bad reasons and it caused a rage quit. However the manner in which they rage quit looked pretty towny besides claiming scum, leaving a will that could be used to implicate your team mates is not something I think a scum quitting would do. Town more than likely.

10; Palmar - Palmar is probably scum. He afk'd on most of the lynches and was goin to waste his vote at one point before he was confronted with it, in another game Palmar mentioned that he is either a 0 or a 10 as town and usually a 5-7 as mafia. I would put Palmar in a weird range of seeming to do things and not do things, his knowledge bomb on d1 got him a pass but he really hasn't done much since then.

His push on marv feels a bit weird to me, he really didn't push hes just been soft pushing to see if people would pick it up to me. And he really hasn't reacted to SLs fake claim+rescend which just rom knowing palmar he has a policy to lynch claimers as i've recently experienced. I think its out o his town game.

13; sicklucker - I think SL is town, I would put him into the top five right now. His play which has gotten him some flack just doesn't make sense coming from a mafia. He is barely under any pressure and he claims cop with a green check changes it and then unclaims during the night for wifom. It just looks like someone who watches or plays video mafia would make this play and see it as pretty good. I don't like the play as it might draw out the cop but it does not make sense at this juncture for mafia to want to go 1-1 with the cop. SL is pretty solidly town for me.

Besides that if you look at his play he has developed a few crazy theories and flip flops on people to get reactions and to flush out his reads if you look at student mafia, carol, metal mafia you can see him doing this a ton it is one of the staples of his town game.

14; Vivax -

15; KelsierSC- Kel is town. Honestly hes my top town at this point. His questioning people during the night and day phases, his follow up and his synopsis of all his questioning sessions at the end really point to town. He has follow up, he pushes what he thinks and tries t get who he wants lynched. He is trying to solve this game and he is town.

16; ritoky - I think ritoky is a good shot at scum. I had a slight town read on him d1 due to his follow up being so different then his mafia games in carol and in season of the witch. However his follow up to that has been pretty bad up to a point, he was pretty useless n1, d2 and n2. He doesn't really have much push behind what hes saying, however his posts so far in d3 have been ok, his vote analysis wasn't bad and hes giving some decent thoughts to the thread. I'm not sure that he should be the lynch today but i'm still sold that hes a good shot at mafia.

17; DoctorHelvetica - I'm actually leaning scum on DrH right now, his day one while almost everyone called it towny looks a bit weird to me. He tunnels one player all day (chy) who he makes rage quit, inflated his filter by doing so and made up a scum team of chy and geript. Come end of day he can get chy potentially lynched and definitely get geript lynched. However instead he chooses to shenany off of his top two scum reads onto a lesser read leaving his other scum reads alive another day, when confronted with this information he said he was second guessing himself. Since this time he has dissapeared from the thread going from 19 pages of filter in cycle one down to 5 pages since, his return will tell a lot because he has not really been involved in any situations really since d1. Hes a possible scum but he probably shouldn't be the lynch today unless something huge happens.

20; Superbia - I've talked a good deal about superbia at this point, really wanted this lynch yesterday. And really want it today as well, Superbia is not playing like he normally would as town. Barely has any formulated reads and when he gives promises that he will do things he barely does anything and goes away for most of the other time. Seems to be posting angry all the time and is really defensive about all things. This is a great lynch I think if we want to go for a lurker especially today.

Obviously i've removed myself and the dead people in this list as i'm most sure of the alignments on those.

I still have to do vivax but i ran out of time, be back shortly any questions or comments please leave them i'll finish soon.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 17:54 GMT
#5215
i'm going to ignore that until gb is more definite. GB what did you think of my reads post?

I'm going to finish Vivax now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 17:56 GMT
#5217
On January 06 2015 22:40 GlowingBear wrote:
SL is mafia
Palmar is mafia
I had a feeling Robik was town but I can totally see Robik and SL on team mafia

Vivax is null, gotta re read koshi's case on him because I think koshi was best town 2015 so far. But his effort and titled length makes him more like a town lean.

Marv is mafia because he is still alive and JAT isn't. Tbh I simply don't see marv trying too hard to lynch his scumreads.

Ritoky is probably town for his analysis.

Superbia is town if SL and Robik are mafia.

DrH should be jumping in SL's neck for fakeclaiming but he didn't. Leaning scum.

Chez is (?). The feeling that TheChyz was mafia against geript and that mafia found a brilliant way to secure a mislynch by moving to bats is real. It gets more real when you consider SL and Robik both as mafia.

Also, this team Robik bullshit sucks and Robik was reading palmar as scum if I remember correctly, which made SL getting excited, but now SL puts palmar in the end of his lynch list and Robik simply ignores palmar.

Which makes me strongly believe a scum team of Palmar, SL and Robik is real.
Then you could throw marv and Chezinu in that and bam: scum team.


Need GB to confirm are the top two your checks?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:04 GMT
#5221
Well GB has to claim cop and say those are his checks and we can go from there and see if we think if both are mafia or frames or millers or if there is a counter claim obviously.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:06 GMT
#5223
I'll wait on GB who just dissapeared after softing to 100% the checks
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:13 GMT
#5224
@Robik, the reason I left vivax blank was obviously I ran out of time and I was trying to be as comprehensive as possible when I was typing about people.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:19 GMT
#5227
Vivax- I had a hard time getting through this one. D1 was very lackluster for Vivax but the same could be said for a lot of the posters when the day started. So moving past that I really liked and enjoyed the effort that Vivax put in D2 when he was on the block, he knew that he was probably going to be killed going into the day and had a majority of the votes on him for most of the day.

From this point forward is when I really think that Vivax started playing. He did draw suspicions to Geript and a couple other people (Marv and Jat) but I felt like and it read to me he was covering all of his bases. He saw something he didn't like he pushed it until he either came up with an alignment on someone or the person wasn't in the thread any more. Though he was wrong on a couple of people it seemed like he believes what he was typing and he was putting the effort in. Going after what has been termed unlynchable people is not scum favored or town favored, I really think that vivax was covering his bases and trying to push more information into the thread.

Did I like how he went about this at all the times? No, but the way he tried to proceed while on the block was towny to me. If he was lynched he would have his last will in thread.

He showed a healthy amount of paranoia when I was up for discussion at first having me town for defending him and then stepping back and considering given enough time and information. This is towny to me.

I think vivax shouldn't be the lynch today and i think hes solidly in my town pile today.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:25 GMT
#5228
And Depending on how GB comes back and explains eerything that leaves my scum team atm at

Palmar
Dr H
Super
Ritoky
Lazer
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:35 GMT
#5230
On January 07 2015 03:30 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 03:25 Damdred wrote:
And Depending on how GB comes back and explains eerything that leaves my scum team atm at

Palmar
Dr H
Super
Ritoky
Lazer

I hate this list. You're maxing out at like 3/5


Maybe so, and I knew that you would hate it but its d3, if i'm alive past today I have plenty of time to figure out where i'm wrong. And really you shouldn't hate a list where I have found at least 3 mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:44 GMT
#5233
Mafia do all sorts of thing that don't make sense, basing a read on when someone town reads you and insta swiches can be done as mafia it can be done as town that's not alignment indicative at all.

Super and Ritoky like to bus, look at carol for ritoky bussing HF early and often and look at ffl2 for super bussing when there was still hope.

Plenty of people can look really towny d1 if I did it I would get lynched basically. I think if you take away the chy spam fest he has a medium d1 but thats just me.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 22:40 GMT
#5303
I think I know who the cop is won't out him though he gets a fistbump if I'm right.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 22:47 GMT
#5305
Good I really look forward to reactions I did my vivax read later if you miss it ready for any questions
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 22:49 GMT
#5307
I ran out of time and didn't want to lose all of my work meh.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 22:55 GMT
#5310
I really didn't go in order but I did copy the player list and just went at it as I felt inspiration which sounds weird but that's what I did. Just needed 10 more minutes blah
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 23:02 GMT
#5312
The only one you cared about overall, I think it's clear I was town reading or at least not scrum reading vivax from d2.

I was in class I have limited time when I'm there
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 23:04 GMT
#5315
It's one and the same this year GB!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 23:15 GMT
#5319
GB awesomesauce.

SL If we lynch mafia today who do you think tommorow
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 23:35 GMT
#5325
GB I thought you said had to lynch vivax today
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 23:48 GMT
#5334
For the reasons I said earlier
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 07 2015 00:13 GMT
#5364
Listen I'll explain.

SL wasn't really under that much pressure. We had lurker mafia candidates ritoky and superbia on him before the claim who no one was following.

A one and one for mafia is horrible here, one because either the lynch was geript or vivax not Sl and soneone.

The cop is in a somewhat weakend state due to framer and Miller's in the game. A one and one doesn't help mafia it gives town another mislynch to work with.
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