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Palmar noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. 
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Coag said Palmar is scum just before he died lol.....
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On December 23 2014 05:20 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2014 05:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Coag said Palmar is scum just before he died lol..... Ya but so did kush.
Where did kush call Palmar scum?
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Our best scum bet is the one who most recently said Palmar is scum.
##Vote: Coagulation
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On December 17 2014 13:58 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 13:40 sciberbia wrote:@VE I find Damdred a bit suspicious because he has avoided substantiating reads. + Show Spoiler [read on VE] +On December 17 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 11:45 sciberbia wrote:+ Show Spoiler [damdred] +On December 17 2014 11:33 Damdred wrote:
I actually have a few good town reads right now my top town is a surprise.
Town Leans:
Palmar is my top town, he shows what seems genuine interest. He pressures people is involved in almost every topic has follow up on what he says. Today Palmar is that top town.
VE is most likely town I think, I probably wouldn't listen to people wanting to lynch him today unless he did some really out there.
Robik I wouldn't lynch today at this point I have a pretty strong town feeling from him.
Would lynch today:
Kush: Where did kush go? He said he was reading but never did anything since, not saying that kush can't be lazy as town but he generally has some thoughts.
SL: I think the gameplay is decently different and leaves something to be desired from his normal game play.
I'm not sure about Bresh yet, and even though JAT is in the game I can not really remember much of what he has done so that worries me. And sciberbia making a town case and so many hard defending ls has me worried. @damdred Can you explain what you've seen from VE that makes you think he is town? His only reads so far seem to be slight town on marv and mafia on Palmar which you seem to strongly disagree with. Also, can you explain what you mean in the last sentence of that quote where something is worrying you? I don't have to agree with all of someones reads to think that they are town overall or towny at the moment. VEis putting in effort which granted he can do as mafia but I can see where hes coming from and where hes going with what hes saying. Even though we come to different conclusions I can at least understand what hes doing. Kinda wishy/washy and unsubstantiated for a supposedly strong town read. Says you are putting in effort [granted you can do that as mafia]. And he "understands what you're doing". Just very vague. Like, by this point I have several specific things I could point to to justify my top couple town reads. + Show Spoiler [read on LS] +On December 17 2014 12:01 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 11:57 sciberbia wrote:On December 17 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote:
LS has a ton of people hard defending him based on meta right out of the gate, and that concerns me honestly. Concerns you because you think LS is scum or you think the people defending him are scum? or both? For the record, I can only recall myself and Bereshke defending him. And I guess marv said the case was "icky" I am not sold either way. Someone shouldn't be judged obviously based solely on meta reasons. For example hen he was scum in student mafia it looked really really close to his town game and it was only a couple things that gave him away. So meta wise he is easy to copy. He seems to dismiss both Palmar's case and my post as inconclusive because they are based on meta reasons. But... they weren't at all based on meta reasons. In fact, neither Palmar nor I have even played with LS before. + Show Spoiler [Palmar] +On December 17 2014 05:59 Palmar wrote:Also, votes on LS people, bro is 84% mafia. Evidence 1Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry my late entrance my mom told me that she was taking me to get a hair cut but we went to a couple stores and had lunch T_T
I think the first post is just silly I would of expected that from sicklucker for meta reasons but not scib.
Okay let's try to win this game plain and simple Anyone want to discuss with me? Inherent guilt. He's like the 4th person to post in the thread and apologizes for it. Evidence 2Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 05:39 LightningStrike wrote:On December 17 2014 05:37 sciberbia wrote:On December 17 2014 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry my late entrance my mom told me that she was taking me to get a hair cut but we went to a couple stores and had lunch T_T
I think the first post is just silly I would of expected that from sicklucker for meta reasons but not scib.
Okay let's try to win this game plain and simple Anyone want to discuss with me? You seem to be implying that the silliness of my first post is scummy? If so, please explain why it is scummy. Or are you simply noting that it is silly? I wasn't trying to say it was scummy I just stating it was just silly that's all :O If it wasn't scummy then what the hell is he trying to say? What does silly mean? What has it got to do with the game at all, and why bring it up as expected or not expected behavior if it isn't alignment indicative. Evidence 3Highly aware of own meta, and uses it instantly to defend himself against what are basically shit accusations. Evidence 4Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:On December 17 2014 05:46 Palmar wrote:
Now I want to lynch lightningstrike for suggesting I read more than the absolute bare minimum required. You'll be hitting yourself when my role is revealed  When confronted with what is basically a troll accusation, he immediately goes for the defense again. Further, he does not entertain the possibility that me or anyone else pushing him might be mafia, just straight up "look, I'm not mafia". Soooo.... we good? Kill LS? On December 17 2014 11:22 sciberbia wrote:I think LightningStrike is likely town for two reasons. Actually three but I'm omitting one. - First, after being put under pressure by Palmar and JAT, he maintained his high activity level, and continued to say some dubious/odd things. See spoiler for a few examples
+ Show Spoiler [LS] +On December 17 2014 05:51 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 05:49 IAmRobik wrote:On December 17 2014 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:On December 17 2014 05:46 Palmar wrote:
Now I want to lynch lightningstrike for suggesting I read more than the absolute bare minimum required. You'll be hitting yourself when my role is revealed please don't type posts like this. It implies that Plammmar is town and there's no evidence to that. If LS is mafia, plammmmar 100% cleared I not scum that is all to it. By the way where is sicklucker when I want to start reading him a bit... On December 17 2014 05:54 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 05:53 Palmar wrote:On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote:
I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares That does not say anything about Coag's alignment. He basically doesn't care at all about any game he is in. On the other hand, he should be a prime vigilante shot, because of exactly this. That would be a wasted shot unless we can prove he is scum. On December 17 2014 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:On December 17 2014 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:On December 17 2014 06:02 IAmRobik wrote:Palmar, was she being honest whens he said she didn't like her role and you think she did that as mafia? + Show Spoiler +I typed he and then went back and changed all of them to she, because I refuse to believe that a mom takes a son of age 20 to get a haircut My mom wont let go of me I'm sorry for that and Palmer I really hate my role but I am town and I will do anything to win this game except let myself get lynched for dumb reasons. Well, you're now lynch target #1. Your time to shine bro, find a new #1. I headbanging right now and currently I waiting for sicklucker's first action today to determine his alignment this game. On December 17 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 06:10 Breshke wrote:On December 17 2014 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:On December 17 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:On December 17 2014 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:On December 17 2014 06:02 IAmRobik wrote:Palmar, was she being honest whens he said she didn't like her role and you think she did that as mafia? + Show Spoiler +I typed he and then went back and changed all of them to she, because I refuse to believe that a mom takes a son of age 20 to get a haircut My mom wont let go of me I'm sorry for that and Palmer I really hate my role but I am town and I will do anything to win this game except let myself get lynched for dumb reasons. Well, you're now lynch target #1. Your time to shine bro, find a new #1. I headbanging right now and currently I waiting for sicklucker's first action today to determine his alignment this game. I don't like this its like you saaw Robik cleared coag for reffering to headbanging and you are trying to jump on some town cred What about people who have already posted do you think any of them are scummy? I think SL is someone easy to scum read and think this is a cop out. No I really am a headbanger this game that why I dislike my role -.- Possibly Palmer but as I said I will need to dive into his past games to figure out his meta. On December 17 2014 06:26 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 06:26 IAmRobik wrote:On December 17 2014 06:25 Palmar wrote:
It just sounds like he accidentally forgot how to English. "unlike LS (who hates her role) i got my most despised role" WTF!??!!? Fine if you going to call me a girl just call me Arya then.....
Since by all accounts he is a bit of a timid player, I would expect a scum LS to get a bit scared, clam up a bit, and try to avoid being talked about if at all possible. But on the contrary, he seems completely unafraid of being noticed and that is not something I would expect from a timid scum player.
- Second, I agree with Robik that LS's handling of the 1-10 question is unlikely to come from a scum LS. Put yourself in scum!LS's shoes. You were just asked how happy you are with your role. You want to sound like you are town so you should probably say something like 10/10 because I love playing town or 1/10 because I hate playing town.
Does it really seem likely LS would think things through to the level of: I'm going to say 1/10 but not explain it. I'll be really coy about it and leave people to wonder why I said 1/10. If somebody really pushes me on it, I'll claim VT and say that I hate playing VT.
Seems too devious for a timid newbie scum.
Furthermore, Breshke does have a point about scum being unlikely to pidgeonhole themselves into a particular role claim so early in the game.
Finally, in the pregrame of LXIX he let it be known that VT is in fact his least favorite role. This makes the townie explanation of his answer and followup very easy to understand (he is new and was just being honest).
On December 09 2014 02:48 LightningStrike wrote:
I can't wait for this to start! I love all the roles but the Elf....
I get the feeling he is scum and having trouble coming up with good, specific reasons to justify his stated reads. VE, were you getting the same feeling or do you disagree? @Damdred If you feel like VE is a solid read, can you point to something specific in his filter that you think he would not post as scum? Firstly, saying that VE is a solid read at this point does not mean that I have a strong read on him. That is why he is under the Town LEAN category in my catch up post. Ok, and the point is? You basically repeated what I said. Thats the thing though just because I have a read one way or another doesn't mean I have to turn the read into a huge town post why that person is town. Hes possibly town hes in my town pile today unless he does something or someone puts together a head turning case. This next part is a lie, I say that I hate people hard defending LS based on meta, his meta was brought up by himself (which i really dislike) and bresh talked about it. I think LS has a scum tell that i'd rather not mention until later, but why lie about what I actually said. No where did I even talk about Palmars case you are making things up honestly. Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 08:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 17 2014 06:03 Palmar wrote:On December 17 2014 06:01 marvellosity wrote:On December 17 2014 05:44 Palmar wrote:
Also marv is kinda scummy for lurking instead of posting. hey now, I often work out after I've finished with work, bitch. ##Vote: coagulationRemember? The fact you went right to "bitch" there is kinda mafia.But it's ok for now. I REEEEALLY don't like the bolded. It's like trying to throw mafia on marv for literally no reason. Like, it kinda feels like the kind of read Palmar makes as town, but it's on MARV, someone who A) is extraordinarily hard to read by default and B) someone who is likely to have clout moving further into the game. There's a decently high possibility that it was a joke too. Also the thing at the end "But it's okay for now" reminds me of our first game together when he seemed to follow every criticism with something like "but that doesn't bother me much" or "but that's okay" etc. On the plus side, regardless of his alignment, that pretty much makes LS a safe vote! :D I like this post plus the follow up explanation, his call out on me on my entrance post i felt was towny. His post since haven't read as scummy, he has covered people been invested and not tunneled. He is a solid read atm
Damdred can you explain the bold part in this post now because I feel like you need to explain it now that it's later into the game and siclucker still wants to lynch me.
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On December 23 2014 06:11 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2014 06:06 Damdred wrote:
Like idk why i'm even getting so upset with you, you never lynch the un cc'd blue in this situatin like ever Of course you can when theirs an unconfirmed number of poweroles and your power is blocked. I find it hard to believe your this confident in the balance of a sk game. How many sk games have you been in honestly answer that.
sicklucker earlire scip claimed roleblocked and you believed him and now you calling Damdred's Roleblock a lie? I guess I need to make it straight here with a simple question to FF
Can Mafia Roleblocker Roleblock someone and kill someone the same night?
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On December 23 2014 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Mafia KP can be carried by any mafia player without affecting that player's night actions
Thanks for clarifying this!
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Man it's slow today anyone want to talk atm? Who you guys think is the last scum and why?
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On December 23 2014 09:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Mafia such noob. Didn't kill me.
Tho Palmer prob did more than I.
Who we killing today?
Whoever you like I guess since people will sheep you like crazy.
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If you guys need more meta stuff from player who were just in the Christmas Carol Game then feel free to look into it! Also sicklucker how you feel about me this game now?
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On December 23 2014 11:05 kushm4sta wrote:
so sicklucker is scum?
He didn't seem to act much like he did on Student IV and Christmas Carol game( Carol of the Bells Mafia) but I think him defending Breshke and Marv is kind of odd but so was their defense on me when I'm not scum but otherwise I don't got much on him.
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Sciberbia can you give me your reads please? I would like to talk with you to try to solve this game!
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On December 23 2014 11:10 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2014 11:09 LightningStrike wrote:On December 23 2014 11:05 kushm4sta wrote:
so sicklucker is scum? He didn't seem to act much like he did on Student IV and Christmas Carol game( Carol of the Bells Mafia) but I think him defending Breshke and Marv is kind of odd but so was their defense on me when I'm not scum but otherwise I don't got much on him. @LS Why do you think that Coag calling Palmar scum implies that Coag is the scum?
Well now I look like a idiot for it but nevermind on this because Coag is just being Coag. I just found it amusing. ##Unvote
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On December 23 2014 11:15 kushm4sta wrote:
Hi scrib. I was really convinced by your case but do you realize that VE being SK made it almost completely wrong?
Thoughts on that?
Who are you looking among for scum?
kush
sicklucker
coag
ls
??
Did you just listed yourself on your own list or was the list is for scib?
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On December 23 2014 11:24 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2014 11:15 kushm4sta wrote:
Hi scrib. I was really convinced by your case but do you realize that VE being SK made it almost completely wrong?
Thoughts on that?
Who are you looking among for scum?
kush
sicklucker
coag
ls
?? @kush Hey man the first case was kinda wrong but the second case was still pretty spot on imo. The points about him not scumhunting and being overdefensive still stick regardless of whether he was SK or mafia. So I was a combination of lucky and good. I'm mainly looking among you, sicklucker, and coag for scum. The troubling thing is that if any of you 3 is scum you probably should have conceded by now, right? That makes me worry that either damdred is the luckiest scum alive, or that I've been wrong all game about LS being town. + Show Spoiler +On December 23 2014 11:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2014 11:10 sciberbia wrote:On December 23 2014 11:09 LightningStrike wrote:On December 23 2014 11:05 kushm4sta wrote:
so sicklucker is scum? He didn't seem to act much like he did on Student IV and Christmas Carol game( Carol of the Bells Mafia) but I think him defending Breshke and Marv is kind of odd but so was their defense on me when I'm not scum but otherwise I don't got much on him. @LS Why do you think that Coag calling Palmar scum implies that Coag is the scum? Well now I look like a idiot for it but nevermind on this because Coag is just being Coag. I just found it amusing. ##Unvote @LS Can you explain your thought process a bit more? Why did you think it made Coag scum? Who do you think is scum now? I'm not sure myself and I'm love to hear some convincing arguments if you have any
At the time I was just being a idiot on reading that thing about Palmer being scum by him was scummy but he just being himself at the moment. I think I could nominate sicklucker mainly on meta reasons only though but if you want to hear it out then tell me and I will try to present my case on him. Otherwise I still clueless because I though scum would concede at this point. I got 1 more trick up my book to narrow it down more.
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On December 23 2014 11:25 kushm4sta wrote:
I LISTED MYSELF ON MY OWN LIST OMG.
Is this a slip?
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Guys what you think of kush listing himself on his possible lynch list?
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I smell a slip of you being scum because no one in their right minds even as scum would put themselves on their own lynch list. I got to say congrats on the biggest derp move the century if you are town.
##Vote kushm4sta
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On December 23 2014 11:37 LightningStrike wrote:
I smell a slip of you being scum because no one in their right minds even as scum would put themselves on their own lynch list. I got to say congrats on the biggest derp move in the century if you are town.
##Vote kushm4sta
EBWOP: Added a word. Also sicklucker I dont think you did put yourself on your own lynch list.
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On December 23 2014 11:41 kushm4sta wrote:
Why would scum put themselves on their own lynch list? because they forgot they were trying to hide it?
Exactly this.
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