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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On December 21 2014 05:03 kushm4sta wrote: Ve, Scribs case was convincing. You should recognize that even if you're town. My point is that many of the names I listed are literally just nodding in assent. Bunnies has retracted support for my lynch but others are adding sentiment to this game that is anti-town. Scib could just be mistaken, as he literally says something that's not true. I'm assuming that based on that, his mind could feasibly change because I had him as town before this. But others who are just passively adding sentiment to a VE lynch are being anti-town and they need to answer for it. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Both are suitable kush looks like he's trying somewhat | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On December 21 2014 04:07 VisceraEyes wrote: SCIB/PALMAR/BUNNIES/ANYONE WHO THOUGHT SCIB'S CASE ON VE WAS GOOD: GET IN HERE AND EXPLAIN UR SHIT RIGHT EFFING NOW!!! I think my case on you was pretty reasonable VE. It's a case which shows possible strong mafia motivations consistent with your play. You can't really deny that. The reason I don't think it's a completely damning case is that I'm not sure whether your actions were inconsistent with what town VE could/would do. That's why I asked Palmar what he thought. So let's talk for a bit. On December 21 2014 02:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Like it's explicit in the thread that I had a townread on marv. EXPLICIT. Anyone who says I'm suspicious for defending MY TOWNREAD is fucking bad. And anyone who says that people voting in the voting thread but not here EVEN WHEN MY THOUGHTS ARE EXPLICIT IN THE THREAD, THEY are bad too. Anyone calling me anything but town in this town is fucking bad this game. This is kinda scummy bro. Here is what you actually said about marv: On December 18 2014 08:45 VisceraEyes wrote: I could be convinced to do this. He said we would play today, and I got stood the fuck up. On December 18 2014 11:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah this is a deal at twice the price. ##Unvote ##Vote: Marv It does not look to me like you have a townread on marv at this point. Saying you could be convinced to lynch him = you think there is a good chance he is scum, no? Your thoughts regarding the marv lynch are NOT explicit in the thread. That's a big part of why I find it suspicious that you argued with bunnies about her rationale in voting marv. | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On December 21 2014 04:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Honestly I think it's far more likely that you're third party, but I'd believe mafia over town Vet. Why do you think it's far more likely Damdred is third party? Why did you change your mind? + Show Spoiler [yesterday] + On December 20 2014 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote: If Damdred is mafia fake-claiming that means that (presumably) there's another PR out there. Vet is EXACTLY the role I would fake-claim as mafia because it would draw out the Doctor claim considering a blue flip and a vig claim that hit mafia. Balancewise it wouldn't make much sense to have both a medic and a vet in the game, that wouldn't be fair to any of the anti-town factions (particularly one who has to kill, literally, everyone). And even if it doesn't draw out the other PR, Damdred rolls through with a Vet claim forever. There's a very slim chance that Damdred is SK who chose bulletproof, but honestly with the scrutiny he's under I can't see a lone-wolf coming out and fake-claiming. Actually....he COULD have chosen Investigation-Immune and is trusting mafia not to shoot him (because of the scrutiny) knowing that Bunnies' bullet is gone. That's actually worth thinking about. I honestly can't imagine a world where Damdred claims Vet as town. That's just bad play, and from my experience Damdred isn't a bad player. Gonna filter-dive a little bit tonight and see what I see. Focus will be on those I've listed as "Will Lynch With Fire" but as always I'm open to conversation on any topic. | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
Unfortunately I have to step out. I'll be back in an hour or two. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On December 17 2014 08:34 VisceraEyes wrote: I find marv hard to read. The assumption is that Palmar is mafia and marv is town, and that Palmar is trying to curb his influence by tossing scum on him. I realized the townMarv part of the equation was missing, but that's where my head is at...I'm reading marv town and Palmar as ???. On December 17 2014 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Little things, things I associate with townMarv. Like for one, when he's dismissing Palmar's read of LS, he refers Palmar to past games rather than just explain what he means. A mafiaMarv wants to seem townie right? So he'll give his read on LS rather than point someone in a direction "to save him having to explain". And his completely unexplained vote on Coag. Just not mafia things from marv imo. My townread of Marv is explicit. Like, stop cherry-picking and actually read my filter if you think I'm mafia scib, not for things that "prove" your case, but for things that "disprove" it. For everyone's sake. What made me change my mind is exactly what I said. On December 18 2014 08:45 VisceraEyes wrote: I could be convinced to do this. He said we would play today, and I got stood the fuck up. He said we would play and we didn't. His lack of involvement and his subsequent scumclaim made me OBVIOUSLY rethink my townread of him. Regarding Damdred, after thinking about it he would have to have a partner that either okayed his claim or was going to either bus or play along...it just seems too convoluted to come from mafia imo. But SK could claim Vet in any way he wants honestly. I've literally done it myself as SK. And think about it: as SK he doesn't have to worry about being vigged, and mafia are never going to shoot him...it's like the perfect play in his position. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
Late Vote count Kushm4sta (3): VisceraEyes, Damdred (2): Palmar, Coagulation (1): Sciberbia, VisceraEyes (1): Kushm4sta Not voting (2): Damdred, LightningStrike Currently Kushm4sta is set to be lynched with 3 votes! until deadline | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
In your mind you go for the right play right? | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On December 21 2014 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote: My townread of Marv is explicit. Like, stop cherry-picking and actually read my filter if you think I'm mafia scib, not for things that "prove" your case, but for things that "disprove" it. For everyone's sake. What made me change my mind is exactly what I said. He said we would play and we didn't. His lack of involvement and his subsequent scumclaim made me OBVIOUSLY rethink my townread of him. Regarding Damdred, after thinking about it he would have to have a partner that either okayed his claim or was going to either bus or play along...it just seems too convoluted to come from mafia imo. But SK could claim Vet in any way he wants honestly. I've literally done it myself as SK. And think about it: as SK he doesn't have to worry about being vigged, and mafia are never going to shoot him...it's like the perfect play in his position. @VE I'm not cherry picking and I did read your entire filter. Earlier in the day you explained why you were thinking marv was town, which was fine. But then you changed your read to ???/scummy by saying you could be convinced to vote for him. That's why it's worrying that you were arguing against bunnies's logic for lynching marv, and not voting marv in the voting thread despite voting him in the game thread. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
##Vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
What do you think of the contributions from kush, damdred, and coag today? Has it affected your reads on them? What do you think of my logic for why we should lynch Coag today? I do think VE could be scum, but if we lynch him and he turns out to be town we're in big trouble. You're willing to take that risk? | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On December 21 2014 09:58 sciberbia wrote: Hey LightningStrike. What do you think of the contributions from kush, damdred, and coag today? Has it affected your reads on them? What do you think of my logic for why we should lynch Coag today? I do think VE could be scum, but if we lynch him and he turns out to be town we're in big trouble. You're willing to take that risk? No on Coag but yes on Damdred and kush. Coag didn't contribute much but neither did kush but at least took the time and did something today compared to earlier and Damdred looking townie despite the bad move on claiming vet this early but he had a good point that he would be on one of the bottom of the tier list for scum or sk to get rid of because of Palmar and others taking higher priority. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Also VE, re-fucking-lax. No need to start a shit storm because some people liked a case on you. If you're actually innocent why not just chill out and explain where it is wrong, instead of throwing a hissy fit. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On December 21 2014 10:48 Palmar wrote: I actually lean (tbf I have no fucking clue how to read them... but I digress) towards the notion that both Coag and Kush are town. Also VE, re-fucking-lax. No need to start a shit storm because some people liked a case on you. If you're actually innocent why not just chill out and explain where it is wrong, instead of throwing a hissy fit. then who is scum | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On December 21 2014 11:52 sicklucker wrote: Er ve is totally town and coag and kush are actually trying which is amazing. That kind of makes me want to stick on dandred. I think Ls is the third party. Him doing that lame vt claim at the start is something ive done to get town cred all game and he might have copied it. Hes putting minimal effort even for himself. But we should ignore that for now and find mafia to reduce kp. Sicklucker look at my filter and tell me how I not put much effort. I did make a case on kush earlier which is something I haven't done much of in my games in the past. Also what game you claimed VT and got town cred all game? | ||
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