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VE
Says he could be convinced to vote marv
On December 18 2014 08:45 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 07:30 Palmar wrote:
Okay let's just lynch marv.
Get on the wagon guys.
##vote marvellosity I could be convinced to do this. He said we would play today, and I got stood the fuck up.
Then argues with bunnnies about how her logic for voting marv doesn't work. Doesn't defend marv, but he argues that there is no reason to think people like himself -- who said they could vote marv but haven't done so yet -- are scumbuddies with marv. Therefore argues that bunnies's logic for voting marv doesn't apply.
So he's arguing against voting marv without actually defending marv. And also defending people who don't vote marv.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 18 2014 11:07 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 11:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On December 18 2014 10:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 18 2014 10:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Then again, a lot of people are agreeing with lynching Marv, but only 3 people are actually voting Marv.
This makes me think that Marv is scum, and his partners don't want to vote on him, and just say "Oh yeah, I'd agree with that lynch" and if the lynch does happen and he's mafia, they have some cred as to say, oh yeah I thought he was scum.
So yeah.... the marv lynch is sounding good. If I'm one of those people, since I said I might vote him but am not currently, does that make me mafia if you think marv is mafia? Because I'm not gonna lie, that would be hilarious. Could be, but think about it. Cause this is where my mind is at right now. So we have a strong player who is being viewed as townie pushing a lynch on Marv. Usually, you would have quite a few sheeps right? Except no. Most people are just saying yeah they'd be up for a Marv lynch, but no one is actually jumping on it If marv is a mislynch, I think there'd be more people voting (people including mafia) who then justify their lynch. Except most people are just acting scared to vote Marv. Could this be because Marv is mafia, and mafia don't want to vote off their partner? I'm thinking so. Therefore, I'm pushing this lynch even further, saying let's vote Marv. This is pretty straight-forward and I understand the logic. My issue however is that this isn't video mafia, we aren't under formal and people who aren't currently voting for marv MIGHT be voting for marv by the end of the day, unlike in Video where people who aren't voting for marv....just gave him immunity. Video logic doesn't apply in this situation bby. On December 18 2014 11:15 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 11:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, my logic there isn't even really in the video mindset.
I get it's not a formal, but why not have more votes on Marv to put pressure on him?
Instead, people are giving little contact, and not even trying to pressure reads onanyone Because pressure votes don't work on marv and most people here (I think) know that. He'll tell you all day ury day. He doesn't afraid of anything as mafia, especially votes that are subject to change on a whim during Shenanny time (the last few hours of the day when everything is tossed out the window and the current actives decide the lynch)
Soon after he failed to convince bunnies against her logic for voting marv, I voted marv. That made the 5th vote. Very soon after that VE voted marv in the game thread but NOT in the voting thread.
On December 18 2014 11:48 VisceraEyes wrote:Yeah this is a deal at twice the price. ##Unvote
##Vote: Marv
In fact, after I pointed out to him that there is a voting thread, he voted kush in the voting thread without mentioning it in the game thread.
On December 18 2014 13:26 sciberbia wrote:
VE there's a voting thread for this game
On December 18 2014 13:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
this is in the voting thread
##Vote: kushm4sta
This is especially suspicious since kush was the most likely counterwagon to marv and earlier in the day VE said he wouldn't be voting kush
On December 17 2014 13:01 VisceraEyes wrote:You, sir, also have acquired a day-pass from me. Unlike scib's though yours expires after today, so if you don't want to be lynched tomorrow then you should use your time wisely.
12 hours later VE comes back to the thread and it is clear marv has given up. VE finally puts his vote on marv
On December 18 2014 23:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: marv
Son I am disappoint.
For a newer player or an unknown entity, this has scum written all over it. The reason I pause for thought is that it's VE. Idk is voting for scum in the game thread but a different player in the voting thread too scummy to be scum? What do you guys who have played with VE think?
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<<Palmar>> the above post is mandatory reading. When you wake up please read it and tell me what you think
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On December 20 2014 18:00 sciberbia wrote:
@SL
I assume bolding means you agree? So who do you think we should lynch today between damdred and coag?
IDC to be honest I have a hard time believe I wont lynch them both. I sapose I would make the case to lynch coag first because he will never give us anything to read him on while I can still totally correctly read dandred town.
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Good finds but I dont see where ve says he wouldn't vote kush.
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On December 20 2014 19:21 sicklucker wrote:
Good finds but I dont see where ve says he wouldn't vote kush.
Oh yea my bad. He was giving you a day pass not kush.
I don't know why the hell I thought that he'd be giving kush a day pass.
Hm I guess that's not /quite/ as bad then
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I think ve gets mad points for not pushing an easy lynch on me day 1 I was horrible
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On December 20 2014 19:34 sicklucker wrote:
I think ve gets mad points for not pushing an easy lynch on me day 1 I was horrible
eh I mean he gave you a day pass 8 hours after the start of the game so he couldn't have pushed you later even if he wanted to. I don't see why him not pushing you makes him town
I'm not saying it's scumy or anything I just don't see why you think it's worth mad points
marv was scum and he defend LS (who I'm presuming is town) early in the day, right?
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Ya he did give me that pass I sapose. But does a mafia do that and not keep his options open? Palmer and jat think im mafia so im a decent potential lynch for him.
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Well by defending you he gained an ally - you now think he is town and look ready to defend him for the rest of the game. Mafia defend impressionable, suspected townies all the time for that very reason.
I guess it's a slight point in his favor for not 'keeping his options open' as you say. I just think it's a small point.
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It's weekend I won't do much today. Didn't mafia broski try to go after coag despite repeatedly being told coag is always shit? If I recall that correctly coag is probably town
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On December 20 2014 20:07 Palmar wrote:
It's weekend I won't do much today. Didn't mafia broski try to go after coag despite repeatedly being told coag is always shit? If I recall that correctly coag is probably town
Did you read my post on VE?
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##Vote: coagulation
I really think this is the direction we should go. Here are some facts about coag: - He's quite possibly mafia
- He's quite possibly SK
- He's very unlikely ever to be shot regardless of his role
- We're never going to get any more information to help us read him
- Even if he is town, we cannot trust his vote to help us lynch mafia in future days
No other lynch has so many things going for them. Assuming kush continues to put in some small modicum of effort, he will be more readable and more dependable if he is town. I really think I can read him given more contributions.
Damdred could very well be scum, and I don't trust his claim, but he is committed to contributing, which means not only will we get more information to read him, but if he is town his vote will be an asset in future days.
We always knew we would either have to vig coag or policy lynch him at some point, and I don't think we should put it off any longer. If anyone is awake either vote with me or let me know why you disagree with lynching coag.
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Unofficial Vote Count
coagulation (1): sciberbia
kush (2): VE, coag
damdred (2): Palmar, sicklucker
Not Voting (4): kush, lightningstrike, bunnies, damdred
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2. Palmar
Think about this possibility. He bussed marv early game because marv was going to die anyway because he didn't give a shit. Now he is riding that towncred to an epic single handed mafia victory.
The fact that he did not want to lynch breshke supports this theory.
12. Coagulation
probably scum. Especially after this troll:
On December 20 2014 15:46 Coagulation wrote:
ok so vote kush for ez town victory.
hijole
If he were town, how would he even generate this strong of an opinion with his current level of activity?
I would like to see the details of why palmar thinks coag is town.
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I'm doing a christmas dinner tonight, so very little playing for me.
@scib:
1) I read your VE post now, and I'm actually impressed. I think I would sheep that.
2) Regarding Coag, can you go double check the breshke interaction with coag. I think Breshke was really adamant about trying to lynch coag for not contributing, and if that is correctly remembered, it was almost certainly not a bus.
More townies need to step up btw.
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hmm yeah that is a pretty good case on ve actually. I'll change my vote to him.
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Lol. VE as scum?
I could possibly be down for that.
When is deadline?
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Kush, I could see Coag as SK but not scum
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On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote:
I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares
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What in the holy fuck did I wake up to?
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EPT
