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On December 21 2014 20:34 Palmar wrote:
The case on Damdred is that he's not a dumbass. In fact Damdred is quite smart.
So when smart people do dumb things, I assume something is up.
But ok, it's not like I'm going to be around to whip up votes anyway, and you seem really convinced. Also, VE saying that it's "asinine to lynch him over people like coag or kush" is of course right, but the fact he points it out is sort of mafia.
Just out of curiosity, did you read the entire thread and do you still think Damdred might be a more surefire lynch than VE? VE tries to defend like one small point in my cases, and can't even satisfactorily defend that one point. At the risk of jinxing myself, I'm not that worried about him flipping town. It would be horrible if he does but I don't think it's gonna happen.
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sicklucker... wtf? You realize if we don't lynch scum today we could be in LYLO tomorrow? Palmar isn't hunting scum because he's busy. VE isn't hunting scum because he IS scum (I think).
Whatever I'm just going to resist the temptation to yell at you since you're drunk and I doubt I'm getting lynched. If you want to talk more later I'd be happy to explain in detail why your post makes no sense.
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On December 21 2014 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like how scib lies and says he's not so arrogant that he can't admit that he could be wrong, but then does NOT go and look over Kush' past games. Instead, composing a FURTHER case based on the semantics over me using the words "drilled kush" instead of doing what he said he was doing, reading over Kush's games to see that I'm right.
Scib may actually be mafia here and I've been wrong this whole time. Scib what was the last game you were mafia in?
As a matter of fact I did look through a couple kush filters. I looked at one town and one scum. Both had about the same amount of involvement in the game, and were similar to his involvement here on D2. Kush could be scum. I really don't know but I don't think it's some guaranteed thing like you are claiming.
Why I am having to go through the past filters of YOUR scumread anyway? If you want to get him lynched it is on YOU to demonstrate why he is scum, which you have not done
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/435582-back-to-the-basics-mini-mafia
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On December 21 2014 23:29 sicklucker wrote:
The thing is theres like a 2in5 chance the mafia and sk kill each other. So like it really kills my motivation and I feel it should and is in other players too. And the person your targeting is the best possible mislynch for both. If kush or coag are killed wh o cares honestly were gonna have to kill them eventually. If you kill ve you buy yourself a day which usually determines games.
idk sicklucker I'm just trying to win the game here. Personally, I would not have to rely on a 2 in 5 chance that the mafia and SK shoot each other.
I'm trying to lynch VE because I think he's scum. I can't help it if you thought he was town. Judge my cases on their merit. If he looks like scum then he looks like scum and it doesn't matter what the average reads were on him at the beginning of the day.
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On December 22 2014 00:14 Damdred wrote:
Duck ok.
I thought I could get by on a vet claim and scrum ignore me. I protected Palomar last night and was going to protect bunnies tonight and laugh Tommorow.
It was a plan maybe bad I'm sorry
If you're medic why did you soft claim blue night 1?
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Damdred how does your whole play make any sense? If you're medic, you just keep your mouth shut, try to make saves, and try not to get lynched, right?
Why would you concoct this plan with soft claiming and fake claiming vet? What is the town motivation for it?
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@ninjabunnies
Didn't catch he was medic where? There wasn't any reason to think he was medic until he just claimed it 10 minutes ago.
Also, have you read the thread? I'm pretty sure VE is scum. Not sure about kush. I'd love it if you could move your vote to VE if not damdred.
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On December 22 2014 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2014 00:39 sciberbia wrote:
@ninjabunnies
Didn't catch he was medic where? There wasn't any reason to think he was medic until he just claimed it 10 minutes ago.
Also, have you read the thread? I'm pretty sure VE is scum. Not sure about kush. I'd love it if you could move your vote to VE if not damdred. Now that I think about it Damdred could of used the Vet claim to get the SK and Scum team to not target him so he could heal other people but failed to save the ones that were attacked.
OK my problem with this theory is as follows:
As sicklucker siad, it seemed pretty unlikely that anyone was going to shoot damdred last night. There were so many townier looking targets to choose from. Why does he need some elaborate plan to not get shot? He knew he wasn't getting shot. In fact by softclaiming blue he introduced the possibility of him getting shot, when before his soft claim there really wasn't any.
Honestly even given with all this extremely dubious stuff with damdred, I'm still feeling more confident in my VE read. I just feel that good about my VE read.
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@ninjabunnies
if you have any time at all, it would be really really great if you could read the cases on VE in my filter. My case on him is very very good. I think he would be a much better lynch than kush today.
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On December 22 2014 00:47 sicklucker wrote:
Honestly if you think hes 50/50 medic/mafia we need to lynch him here to reduce kp. Maybe even if its like 30/70 lol. I dont see how we cant lynch him. My vote stands
OK now what if VE is 90/10 mafia/town. How about we lynch VE?
I need to look more at damdred but I just feel so confident in a VE lynch. Most likely scenario seems to be SK = damdred and mafia = VE.
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On December 22 2014 00:28 Damdred wrote:
Cause like I said, IDK why Rob got sifting from what I said all I said was you never want to lynch me and then two p as he's about how I ducking sifted. So I was kinda in a bind, like I ignored it then to try not to draw attention.
Like the whole thing wad stupid and I had to do something stupid.
@Damdred
Can you explain more what you are saying here?
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On December 22 2014 01:00 Damdred wrote:
Why would you talk about if someone sifted for as long as you guys did during the ducking night? It's insane if you think someone sifted don't talk about it.
1) you draw scrums attention to it
2) person has to answer the next day what they meant
Knowing how the games setup shows three town or 1 sk 1 mafia left. Town could scratcher off mafia ignores me until I make a save. Its a good plan in avacume.
And all you people saying lynch down a list of 've then damdred will lose the game. Especially taking two coinflips to lylo
First of all, can you spend more time typing your posts to make them readable. Sorry but all the typos are really annoying
2 questions
1) Why did you softclaim in the first place if you are medic?
2) Why do you think VE looks town?
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On December 22 2014 01:07 Damdred wrote:
Your just being bad and trying to lynch an UN ccd pr it's ok
Are you talking to me? I'm trying to lynch VE actually and I'm trying to figure out your alignment so if you could answer my questions that would be great.
God this game is making me want to rip my hair out right now.
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On December 22 2014 01:11 Damdred wrote:
I'm on the phone so not really most of it is auto correct or what not so gotta make due.
Do you literally believe that I sat there and said I'm going to say you don't want to lynch me and I meant that to be taken as a soft? I'm not saying that it doesn't color what you write when you have extra information but I didn't expect rob to run with that phrase or the thread to talk so much during the night about it.
Cause he's angry, involved not lurky and involved ineverythingevenif it makes him look meh sometimes
I agree it doesn't make any sense to intentionally soft claim as medic there.
So when you saw robik and others start talking about how you soft claimed, why didn't you say something like "Guys that was NOT a softclaim I just don't think you should ever lynch me because I'm town."
I saw you had one post like "robik misread that post two ways". Were you talking about your soft claim or something else there?
Also, have you read the whole thread including my cases on VE?
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On December 22 2014 01:15 Palmar wrote:
Okay, I can get behind that amount of dumb from damdred.
so let's lynch one of sciberbia and VE I guess?
Yea let's do that. And there's only one right answer here.
Palmar, have you read the whole thread including me going back and forth with VE last night?
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Palmar if you read the whole thread I think it should be very obvious that VE is scum.
Just look at what he has been doing recently. Parks vote on kush all day and refuses to move it.
Then sicklucker votes me. VE goes, sure why the fuck not? He has said all game he has been townreading me. Even in his defense of my cases he was saying things like "You think you are right but you're wrong." Jumps on my wagon without showing in any way how I'm scum.
Then Palmar comes in and rejuvenates the wagon on damdred. VE goes, sure why the fuck not? Anyone but me will do!! And he jumps on the damdred wagon.
Read the thread it's all right here. I have no idea how you guys don't think he is scum if you're reading the thread. Whenever I ask you guys if you're reading the thread though, you don't answer or say no. So maybe you are not reading the thread.
Well I AM reading the thread. And you know who we should be lynching today? It's VE.
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On December 22 2014 01:43 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2014 01:17 sciberbia wrote:On December 22 2014 01:15 Palmar wrote:
Okay, I can get behind that amount of dumb from damdred.
so let's lynch one of sciberbia and VE I guess? Yea let's do that. And there's only one right answer here. Palmar, have you read the whole thread including me going back and forth with VE last night? No not even close to it
@Palmar
OK Palmar. I understand that you are busy. I'm trying to carry the game here, so I just need you to read my posts, acknowledge that they are good, and then sheep me.
If you haven't already, please read this post and at least the next page or so. Preferably just keep reading until you catch up.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?page=68#1352
After you have done that, if you are still not convinced, look at how VE has down JACK SHIT today to find scum. All he's done is defend himself and hop onto any bandwaggon that does not have the words VisceraEyes in front of the vote count.
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On December 22 2014 01:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Scib I not moving on the Damdred train and rather go for VE so you can count on my support for your case.
I appreciate it LightningStrike. Thanks for your support.
@Palmar
Palmar I am very confident that if you spend enough time reading the thread, then you will see VE is the best lynch. Nobody so far has been able to tell me they have read the whole thread and do not think VE is the best lynch. The problem is that half the thread is currently drunk, high on meds, phone posting, or broken down on some road somewhere, so even though the evidence is in the thread, nobody is reading the thread and we have a huge clusterfuck of people who don't know what's going on.
So just take some time and read the thread please. Unless you are SK or something and trolling me in which case fuck you
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On December 22 2014 02:09 Palmar wrote:
Bro I'm already sheepish you. I don't even care enough to read. We can deal with fallout if there is any tomorrow
OK well good. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
If I'm wrong I'll deal with the consequences.
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On December 22 2014 02:19 kushm4sta wrote:
it's so obvious you're mafia dude. can you just give up or something?
who are you talking to? VE? He's not in the thread right now
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