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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 06:58 GMT
#1365
ya bro no prob ill get right on that
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 06:59 GMT
#1366
On December 21 2014 14:19 sciberbia wrote:
OK boys listen up. I think VE is scum and we should lynch him.

coag and kush now look like they are willing to play the game, so it is no longer the correct play to policy lynch them. If they are town they can help us.

Here is why I think VE is scum

His defense of my first case is scummy and insufficient


Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I never said I wouldn't vote for Kush, I said I wouldn't vote for sicklucker and marv, but marv claimed scum so I voted for marv. If you want to vote for me for breaking my promise and voting a mafia then by all means, but that's losing play every day and I'm town so get the fuck on.

Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like it's explicit in the thread that I had a townread on marv. EXPLICIT. Anyone who says I'm suspicious for defending MY TOWNREAD is fucking bad.


This is misrepresenting both what happened in the thread on D1 and my original case on VE. In the quotes above, VE is trying to tell a story that goes like this:
  1. He had a town read on marv
  2. He defended marv, his townread, from bunnies
  3. Later, marv claimed scum, and that is when VE voted for him

Now that story sounds fine (besides the fact he TR a scum I guess). But this is NOT an accurate story. It's twisted and does not answer to the core of my first case. In between points 1 and 2, VE made a post saying that he "could be convinced to vote for marv" --> implies he thinks marv could be scum. Therefore, when he was arguing against bunnies logic for voting marv, he was not arguing against lynching his townread, but rather his ???/scum read.

Furthermore, VE voted marv in the game thread BEFORE marv gave up. His reasoning for doing so is not explicit in the thread. All he said about marv is that marv stood him up. And remember, he voted KUSH in the voting thread rather than marv.

Only later after marv had clearly given up did VE vote for him.

He seems infinitely more concerned with not getting lynched himself than finding scum

Since Breshke was shot, the last mafia is a lone wolf. That means that their goal during the day is to get anybody lynched but themself. Let's see how VE has approached D2.

votes kush and also calls damdred likely scum
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 20 2014 05:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: kushm4sta

No Palmar, you promised. I sheeped you onto marv, now you return the favor.

On December 20 2014 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 05:38 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, Dam, why would you EVER claim vet here?
EVER

One: I can claim as vig because, well hey, I'm basically just a confirmed VT now.

But as vet? You could have taken a bullet in later days. I'm going to die tonight.
Instead, now, you'll just be a question mark throughout the entire game because mafia will NEVER shoot you. EVER

If Damdred is mafia fake-claiming that means that (presumably) there's another PR out there. Vet is EXACTLY the role I would fake-claim as mafia because it would draw out the Doctor claim considering a blue flip and a vig claim that hit mafia. Balancewise it wouldn't make much sense to have both a medic and a vet in the game, that wouldn't be fair to any of the anti-town factions (particularly one who has to kill, literally, everyone). And even if it doesn't draw out the other PR, Damdred rolls through with a Vet claim forever.

There's a very slim chance that Damdred is SK who chose bulletproof, but honestly with the scrutiny he's under I can't see a lone-wolf coming out and fake-claiming. Actually....he COULD have chosen Investigation-Immune and is trusting mafia not to shoot him (because of the scrutiny) knowing that Bunnies' bullet is gone. That's actually worth thinking about.

I honestly can't imagine a world where Damdred claims Vet as town. That's just bad play, and from my experience Damdred isn't a bad player.

Gonna filter-dive a little bit tonight and see what I see. Focus will be on those I've listed as "Will Lynch With Fire" but as always I'm open to conversation on any topic.

On December 21 2014 02:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:55 Coagulation wrote:
kush is like 99% scum imo


Yeah I'm never moving my vote today unless someone not-kush actually claims scum again. Which WOULD be fantastic.



He hasn't been scumhunting today. There's no evidence that he's reading filters. In fact the whole game I 've felt he's been slightly subdued for VE, but didn't think much of it until now.

Now look what what happens when he thinks he's in danger of getting lynched. All of a sudden he explodes. The majority of his energy today has been used berating people who think he is scum.

+ Show Spoiler [defending himself] +

On December 21 2014 02:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the holy fuck did I wake up to?

On December 21 2014 02:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I never said I wouldn't vote for Kush, I said I wouldn't vote for sicklucker and marv, but marv claimed scum so I voted for marv. If you want to vote for me for breaking my promise and voting a mafia then by all means, but that's losing play every day and I'm town so get the fuck on.

On December 21 2014 02:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
And all of you people who missed that nodding your head in assent should be fucking ashamed of yourselves.

On December 21 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Especially Palmar.

Fucking disgusting.

On December 21 2014 02:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like it's explicit in the thread that I had a townread on marv. EXPLICIT. Anyone who says I'm suspicious for defending MY TOWNREAD is fucking bad. And anyone who says that people voting in the voting thread but not here EVEN WHEN MY THOUGHTS ARE EXPLICIT IN THE THREAD, THEY are bad too. Anyone calling me anything but town in this town is fucking bad this game.

On December 21 2014 02:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar get back in here and explain yourself! You just almost sheeped a fucking bad case onto a townie, and you're GOING to explain yourself!

On December 21 2014 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:51 kushm4sta wrote:
On December 21 2014 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kush is voting for me because I backstabbed him in Big Brother. Everyone else voting for me has no fucking excuse.


um no.
im voting for you because of scriberia's case on you.
How you weirdly refuted the case against marv without defending him.

I refuted Bunnies' logic because it's based on video logic where there is ONE vote on someone and if that vote doesn't pass that person gets immunity. I wasn't even trying to get her to change her mind, only to rethink the notion that people NOT voting for marv ARE necessarily mafia, because I wasn't voting for marv and I'm town. I have a VESTED INTEREST in changing that aspect of her mind, to win the game for town.

On December 21 2014 02:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I would have just been all "No idiots, marv is town gtfo" if I were mafia with marv. I don't care what he may or may not have instructed his team to do in the QT, I would have fought for a mislynch on D1.

On December 21 2014 03:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 03:02 Coagulation wrote:
fine whatever ve go ahead and get ur stupid ass lynched.

kush if u give up and save face no one will blame you.

I'm not getting lynched. I'm laying the smack down on shitty logic. Don't like it? Stop providing it.

On December 21 2014 04:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
SCIB/PALMAR/BUNNIES/ANYONE WHO THOUGHT SCIB'S CASE ON VE WAS GOOD:

GET IN HERE AND EXPLAIN UR SHIT RIGHT EFFING NOW!!!

On December 21 2014 05:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 05:03 kushm4sta wrote:
Ve, Scribs case was convincing. You should recognize that even if you're town.

My point is that many of the names I listed are literally just nodding in assent. Bunnies has retracted support for my lynch but others are adding sentiment to this game that is anti-town. Scib could just be mistaken, as he literally says something that's not true. I'm assuming that based on that, his mind could feasibly change because I had him as town before this. But others who are just passively adding sentiment to a VE lynch are being anti-town and they need to answer for it.

On December 21 2014 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 08:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 17 2014 06:03 Palmar wrote:
On December 17 2014 06:01 marvellosity wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:44 Palmar wrote:
Also marv is kinda scummy for lurking instead of posting.

hey now, I often work out after I've finished with work, bitch.

##Vote: coagulation

Remember?

The fact you went right to "bitch" there is kinda mafia.

But it's ok for now.

Like, it kinda feels like the kind of read Palmar makes as town, but it's on MARV, someone who A) is extraordinarily hard to read by default

Huh?

I find marv hard to read. The assumption is that Palmar is mafia and marv is town, and that Palmar is trying to curb his influence by tossing scum on him.

I realized the townMarv part of the equation was missing, but that's where my head is at...I'm reading marv town and Palmar as ???.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 17 2014 06:03 Palmar wrote:
On December 17 2014 06:01 marvellosity wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:44 Palmar wrote:
Also marv is kinda scummy for lurking instead of posting.

hey now, I often work out after I've finished with work, bitch.

##Vote: coagulation

Remember?

The fact you went right to "bitch" there is kinda mafia.

But it's ok for now.

Like, it kinda feels like the kind of read Palmar makes as town, but it's on MARV, someone who A) is extraordinarily hard to read by default

Huh?

I find marv hard to read. The assumption is that Palmar is mafia and marv is town, and that Palmar is trying to curb his influence by tossing scum on him.

I realized the townMarv part of the equation was missing, but that's where my head is at...I'm reading marv town and Palmar as ???.

Ok, I don't think he is that hard to read but you may disagree. BUT if you think so then why the hell are you townreading him? Because I think he is not that hard to read and I certainly don't have a townread on him by now. I also don't think that scum Palmar thinks he can curb town marvs influence.

^
Someone investigate this further - seems fishy to me. I am going to bed.

Little things, things I associate with townMarv. Like for one, when he's dismissing Palmar's read of LS, he refers Palmar to past games rather than just explain what he means. A mafiaMarv wants to seem townie right? So he'll give his read on LS rather than point someone in a direction "to save him having to explain". And his completely unexplained vote on Coag. Just not mafia things from marv imo.

My townread of Marv is explicit. Like, stop cherry-picking and actually read my filter if you think I'm mafia scib, not for things that "prove" your case, but for things that "disprove" it. For everyone's sake.

What made me change my mind is exactly what I said.

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On December 18 2014 08:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 18 2014 07:30 Palmar wrote:
Okay let's just lynch marv.

Get on the wagon guys.

##vote marvellosity

I could be convinced to do this. He said we would play today, and I got stood the fuck up.

He said we would play and we didn't. His lack of involvement and his subsequent scumclaim made me OBVIOUSLY rethink my townread of him.

Regarding Damdred, after thinking about it he would have to have a partner that either okayed his claim or was going to either bus or play along...it just seems too convoluted to come from mafia imo. But SK could claim Vet in any way he wants honestly. I've literally done it myself as SK. And think about it: as SK he doesn't have to worry about being vigged, and mafia are never going to shoot him...it's like the perfect play in his position.



Just look at all those posts. The monstruous disparity between his passion in scumhunting (relatively low) and passion in defending himself (extremely high) is the biggest reason I think he is scum. He has not worked that hard today to show why kush is mafia. He hasn't been going out of his way to drill kush in the thread. But he'll go to hell and back to defend himself from my original case, which if you'll notice didn't even have a vote.

Scumslip?

VE has refused to lynch anyone but kush all day. He acts as if he is very confident kush is mafia

Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 05:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyone not voting for Kush needs to explain in detail why they aren't voting for mafia.


Now look at this post
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kush is voting for me because I backstabbed him in Big Brother. Everyone else voting for me has no fucking excuse.


Looks like a scumslip. What do you guys think? If VE really thinks kush is scum, then being scum is plenty of reason to vote for a town VE. What is this about backstabbing in Big Brother? It makes no sense.

Furthermore, he is saying kush has no excuse for voting VE. If VE truly thinks kush is mafia, it doesn't make any sense to say whether kush's vote is excusable or inexcusable. Mafia votes cannot be criticized on logic the same way town votes can.




VE if you're town I'm sorry and I'm gonna feel really bad but my gut says you're scum. And I don't think I'm wrong.

##Vote: VisceraEyes


this
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 08:24 GMT
#1370
ve you have to drill me harder
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 17:19 GMT
#1480
it's so obvious you're mafia dude. can you just give up or something?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 17:21 GMT
#1481
coag, how in the fuck is ve obvious town???
If you are basing that solely on the lack of marv/ve buttlove then you should realize that there could be any number of real life reasons for that.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 17:38 GMT
#1488
Ve
please Show me the part of your filter that makes you obvious town.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 18:53 GMT
#1502
On December 22 2014 03:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
The case is not okay. The case is literally "He thought marv was town, he thinks kush is mafia, he doesn't like when people accuse him"

That's literally the worst case I've ever seen.


you are not representing his case accurately!
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 19:48 GMT
#1524
flash > arrow
and damdred im here but i have no desire to change my vote.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 19:51 GMT
#1526
LOL inb4 damdred is SK and he doesn't want us to kill the last scum yet.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 20:57 GMT
#1547
scrib but this makes your case pretty much wrong lol
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 20:58 GMT
#1548
also you can lynch me next if you want. however you should i know that i would surrender at this point as scum.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 21:00 GMT
#1550
sicklucker is a noob so he's less likely to surrender than I am. That is my argument why we would lynch him instead of me tomorrow.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2014 21:01 GMT
#1551
oh wait coag could totally be scum too imo
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 22 2014 01:51 GMT
#1557
On December 22 2014 06:53 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 05:58 kushm4sta wrote:
also you can lynch me next if you want. however you should i know that i would surrender at this point as scum.

No. You made us wait through an entire day last time you were the one remaining mafia.


Exactly. I learned my lesson.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 22 2014 01:53 GMT
#1558
Plus that game I made a fake claim that was so retarded everyone thought it was genuine.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 22 2014 03:41 GMT
#1561
i just glanced at coag's filter and i saw some nice reads on a bunch of different people. so yeah i agree he's town.

sicklucker then.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 22 2014 03:45 GMT
#1563
k maybe ls then lol
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 22 2014 03:46 GMT
#1565
omg please don't let it be palmar with the conspiracy theory play
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 22 2014 03:46 GMT
#1567
more and more I think it's palmar.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 22 2014 03:51 GMT
#1570
New marv meta is to not give a fuck as town, and give even less of a fuck as scum.
Marv's recent scum record has been abysmal if I remember correctly.
Marv came in the qt and said "since i rolled scum i really cba"
and palmar's like "ok ill bus you it will be funny"

EVIDENCE:
Even fucking NIJNABUNNIES knew breshke was scum. And palmar was hard townreading him. Because he knew his bus had acquired himself enough towncred to pull it off safely.
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