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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 17 2014 15:31 GMT
#620
I actually don't mind bresh after looking at his filter. It looks like someone paying attention really and trying to do stuff, i don't think I would be comfortable lynching today at all.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 17 2014 20:25 GMT
#706
On December 18 2014 03:47 Coagulation wrote:
so its roughly 24 hours into the game at this point and actually reasonable to formulate opinions on the game so I will drop some reads for you people who are not fucking retarded.



Damdred - wishy washy and try hard and fixated on me for some reason (the easy push). might be scum.




Can we talk about this some? I'm confused how i'm doing this. I don't think i've mentioned Coag at all in my filter and never pushed him at all.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 17 2014 20:36 GMT
#716
I try not to scum read people based soley on activity, i have a scum read on you but i've stated why earlier. And not sure why you are putting me into the new player category really i don't really think anyone in the thread sees me that way? I'm not even sure why you are on this when you have no reason to disagree with what robik is saying, i think robs reasons on me is crap and I think breshke isn't scum at this point for a few reasons.

But you seem to be disagreeing just to be doing so?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 17 2014 22:57 GMT
#757
On December 18 2014 05:41 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 05:36 Damdred wrote:
I try not to scum read people based soley on activity, i have a scum read on you but i've stated why earlier. And not sure why you are putting me into the new player category really i don't really think anyone in the thread sees me that way? I'm not even sure why you are on this when you have no reason to disagree with what robik is saying, i think robs reasons on me is crap and I think breshke isn't scum at this point for a few reasons.

But you seem to be disagreeing just to be doing so?


Thats like your entire case against me


I don't think you've actually read my case then, the case had very little to do with activity level but based on you doing nothing with the appearance of being here sorta like you are still doing.

On December 18 2014 06:05 sicklucker wrote:
I think dandreds a really good lynch. Hes a pretty weak mafia. I know this from that game we played against you ve. Like ive been on his team I know how he functions. He trys to keep a low radar and tunnel on one person I think thats what hes doing here. Hes barely given a read besides me.

I also read dandred really well ive said this multiple times and have staked previous games on him being town, while being ride or die with him. I think its super logical a mafia dandred tunnels me, he thinks im a weak town player which is probably true(see his pregame post) and he knows I do read him well as weve been in every game together always on the same team


Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 11:00 Damdred wrote:
SL is gin to be policy lynched this game




You do not know my mafia meta at all, you played scum with me one game where I was being super lazy generally I play really different then what I did that game. As scum I don't go super low radar and tunnel, I bus the fuck out of one of my team mates for most of the game until they get lynched or i'm lynched and their so much wifom in the air usually (as long as the person doesn't act scummy taht is) that they have good cred going forward.

LIke you aren't even telling people why im' scum in any of your posts you are just saying that you can read me well but don't show anything why i'm actually scum you just drop it.

Besides this I was a bit hesitant about JAT going in today and he really picked up his game. He'll probably call me an idiot for having doubts about him but he looks better today.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 17 2014 22:58 GMT
#759
And yea i'm getting ok with a marv lynch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 17 2014 23:55 GMT
#776
VE tell me ewhat you think of JAT, SL please
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 00:12 GMT
#778
On December 18 2014 09:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 08:55 Damdred wrote:
VE tell me ewhat you think of JAT, SL please

I think SL is town based on what I've read so far, and JAT is giving me the willies. Generally speaking his Words-Per-Post is MUCH higher when he's town, and he's calling out LS for town-reading me (correctly) which is really really bad for town. I could maybe lynch JAT, but he's not at the top of my list today. Right now I think I'd rather lynch into Coag/Kush because their chances to help town if they are town DOES NOT outweigh the possibility that they are just fucking off as mafia.


Aside for lynching into Coag/Kush for fucking off whats the scummiest thing in the thread to you
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 02:13 GMT
#790
On December 18 2014 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 09:12 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 18 2014 08:55 Damdred wrote:
VE tell me ewhat you think of JAT, SL please

I think SL is town based on what I've read so far, and JAT is giving me the willies. Generally speaking his Words-Per-Post is MUCH higher when he's town, and he's calling out LS for town-reading me (correctly) which is really really bad for town. I could maybe lynch JAT, but he's not at the top of my list today. Right now I think I'd rather lynch into Coag/Kush because their chances to help town if they are town DOES NOT outweigh the possibility that they are just fucking off as mafia.


Aside for lynching into Coag/Kush for fucking off whats the scummiest thing in the thread to you

You mean besides your coming to the thread to be seen "reading up" only to follow it up with what basically amounts to a summary list of actives? Because that's the scummiest thing in the thread to /me/ but I recognize that it doesn't necessarily make you scum.


You so silly VE
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 02:15 GMT
#793
I really like bunnies and the way she is trying to do things right now
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 02:16 GMT
#795
On December 18 2014 11:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 11:13 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:12 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 18 2014 08:55 Damdred wrote:
VE tell me ewhat you think of JAT, SL please

I think SL is town based on what I've read so far, and JAT is giving me the willies. Generally speaking his Words-Per-Post is MUCH higher when he's town, and he's calling out LS for town-reading me (correctly) which is really really bad for town. I could maybe lynch JAT, but he's not at the top of my list today. Right now I think I'd rather lynch into Coag/Kush because their chances to help town if they are town DOES NOT outweigh the possibility that they are just fucking off as mafia.


Aside for lynching into Coag/Kush for fucking off whats the scummiest thing in the thread to you

You mean besides your coming to the thread to be seen "reading up" only to follow it up with what basically amounts to a summary list of actives? Because that's the scummiest thing in the thread to /me/ but I recognize that it doesn't necessarily make you scum.


You so silly VE

Stop be so scummy Dammy!!!


I'm really not trying to be scummy i'm trying to give as many thoughts to the going on even if my intro which was late was super bad.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 02:26 GMT
#797
On December 18 2014 11:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 11:16 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 11:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 18 2014 11:13 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:12 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 09:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 18 2014 08:55 Damdred wrote:
VE tell me ewhat you think of JAT, SL please

I think SL is town based on what I've read so far, and JAT is giving me the willies. Generally speaking his Words-Per-Post is MUCH higher when he's town, and he's calling out LS for town-reading me (correctly) which is really really bad for town. I could maybe lynch JAT, but he's not at the top of my list today. Right now I think I'd rather lynch into Coag/Kush because their chances to help town if they are town DOES NOT outweigh the possibility that they are just fucking off as mafia.


Aside for lynching into Coag/Kush for fucking off whats the scummiest thing in the thread to you

You mean besides your coming to the thread to be seen "reading up" only to follow it up with what basically amounts to a summary list of actives? Because that's the scummiest thing in the thread to /me/ but I recognize that it doesn't necessarily make you scum.


You so silly VE

Stop be so scummy Dammy!!!


I'm really not trying to be scummy i'm trying to give as many thoughts to the going on even if my intro which was late was super bad.

Well no one TRIES to be scummy bby, it just happens when they scum. <3


Baby doll i'm not scum but i'm on every scum list besides Palmar
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 02:52 GMT
#804
Case on SL boils down to this (to me)

He misrepresents certain things to make me look scummy.

His reads have no backing behind them and are just one word.Most of them come out of the blue and do not change over time,the most telling of this is LS read which he did not even develop into just sheeped onto someone elses towncase.

Complains about people poking at newer people but can't say why what they are doing is bad.

Is not really scum hunting at all it seems.

On Marv:

Hes not being marv, not really giving much thoughts and his filter is really small for so far into d1
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 02:56 GMT
#806
On December 18 2014 11:38 sciberbia wrote:
sounds like a good deal

##Unvote
##Vote: marvellosity


Did you look at all of those filters and how is your scum list coming
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 03:20 GMT
#813
On December 18 2014 12:12 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 11:52 Damdred wrote:
Case on SL boils down to this (to me)

He misrepresents certain things to make me look scummy.

His reads have no backing behind them and are just one word.Most of them come out of the blue and do not change over time,the most telling of this is LS read which he did not even develop into just sheeped onto someone elses towncase.

Complains about people poking at newer people but can't say why what they are doing is bad.

Is not really scum hunting at all it seems.

On Marv:

Hes not being marv, not really giving much thoughts and his filter is really small for so far into d1

The underlined is not true. In fact his reads changing over time is a big reason I'm leaning town on him+ Show Spoiler +
see my next post
. In fact in the very next sentence you mention his read on LS which went from null to towny after he my post on LS.

Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 07:57 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 06:05 sicklucker wrote:
I think dandreds a really good lynch. Hes a pretty weak mafia. I know this from that game we played against you ve. Like ive been on his team I know how he functions. He trys to keep a low radar and tunnel on one person I think thats what hes doing here. Hes barely given a read besides me.

I also read dandred really well ive said this multiple times and have staked previous games on him being town, while being ride or die with him. I think its super logical a mafia dandred tunnels me, he thinks im a weak town player which is probably true(see his pregame post) and he knows I do read him well as weve been in every game together always on the same team


On December 16 2014 11:00 Damdred wrote:
SL is gin to be policy lynched this game




Like you aren't even telling people why im' scum in any of your posts you are just saying that you can read me well but don't show anything why i'm actually scum you just drop it.



This is also not true. In the post you are quoting he says exactly why he thinks you are scum and the reason he gives is perfectly reasonable. It looks to me like you are misrepresnting him and not the other way around.


...His read sporadically changed to sheeping you from a town case you made. That is not developing a read, thats sheeping an ok post out of nothing.

His reads haven't really changed but we will be arguing semantics as I will hold that he is not doing anything or scum hunting on this point.

And no hes not explaining why I am scum, he is trying to show meta wise why I am scum when he is doing nothing of the sort. He is taking one game out of many where I have been scum and I was being super lazy, so no his reasoning is not good and its horrible.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 03:24 GMT
#815
I honestly think policy lynching Kush d1 is probably horrible, Vig him I could live with. I hate policy lynches though, and Kush has a recent history of just fucking off as town as much as he does mafia.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 03:35 GMT
#817
On December 18 2014 12:31 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 12:20 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 12:12 sciberbia wrote:
On December 18 2014 11:52 Damdred wrote:
Case on SL boils down to this (to me)

He misrepresents certain things to make me look scummy.

His reads have no backing behind them and are just one word.Most of them come out of the blue and do not change over time,the most telling of this is LS read which he did not even develop into just sheeped onto someone elses towncase.

Complains about people poking at newer people but can't say why what they are doing is bad.

Is not really scum hunting at all it seems.

On Marv:

Hes not being marv, not really giving much thoughts and his filter is really small for so far into d1

The underlined is not true. In fact his reads changing over time is a big reason I'm leaning town on him+ Show Spoiler +
see my next post
. In fact in the very next sentence you mention his read on LS which went from null to towny after he my post on LS.

On December 18 2014 07:57 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 06:05 sicklucker wrote:
I think dandreds a really good lynch. Hes a pretty weak mafia. I know this from that game we played against you ve. Like ive been on his team I know how he functions. He trys to keep a low radar and tunnel on one person I think thats what hes doing here. Hes barely given a read besides me.

I also read dandred really well ive said this multiple times and have staked previous games on him being town, while being ride or die with him. I think its super logical a mafia dandred tunnels me, he thinks im a weak town player which is probably true(see his pregame post) and he knows I do read him well as weve been in every game together always on the same team


On December 16 2014 11:00 Damdred wrote:
SL is gin to be policy lynched this game




Like you aren't even telling people why im' scum in any of your posts you are just saying that you can read me well but don't show anything why i'm actually scum you just drop it.



This is also not true. In the post you are quoting he says exactly why he thinks you are scum and the reason he gives is perfectly reasonable. It looks to me like you are misrepresnting him and not the other way around.


...His read sporadically changed to sheeping you from a town case you made. That is not developing a read, thats sheeping an ok post out of nothing.

His reads haven't really changed but we will be arguing semantics as I will hold that he is not doing anything or scum hunting on this point.

And no hes not explaining why I am scum, he is trying to show meta wise why I am scum when he is doing nothing of the sort. He is taking one game out of many where I have been scum and I was being super lazy, so no his reasoning is not good and its horrible.


@Damdred
Well idk how you define changing/developing reads, but to me it looks like the only reads he hasn't changed over the course of the game are the palmar one and possibly the sciberbia one.

What is horrible about his argument that you are scum? He said you have been under the radar this game, and that you are mainly tunneling one person. Meta arguments aside, both of those are scum traits, and I would contend both are reasonable descriptions of your play this game. Do you disagree?


I haven't been under the radar at all, I made a very loud and horrible entrance post that got attention drawn to me, I gave reads some were challenged and talk has been had with me and about me. So no i'm right on the radar and i've obviously been involved in things.

Tunneling is not totally scum oriented at all, most people get tunneled at one point or another. While I admit that I scum read SL I at least try to understand why people town read him or do not scum read him. And i'm not ignoring others and giving opinions *shrug*

So no i don't think its a fair assessment
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 03:59 GMT
#820
On December 18 2014 12:48 sciberbia wrote:
well the fact that you keep talking yourself up reflects well on you I guess.

has anything that's been said by or about SL recently changed your opinion on him? How confident are you currently that he is scum?


SL basically said hes not moving his vote until Kush plays, it plays into my idea that hes just having the appearance of doing things instead of actually doing them.

I'm not getting the same thing you are with the quote stream about robik, he said things, he got pressured about it then backed off. I do not get a towny vibe from that at all, the only thing he has somewhat stuck to is scum reading me (which he doesn't have his vote on) and policy lynching kush until kush plays. So no nothing is really changing my read on him currently.

72% right now
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 04:05 GMT
#822
Cool story, now please show why i'm scum
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 04:26 GMT
#826
On December 18 2014 13:20 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 12:59 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 12:48 sciberbia wrote:
well the fact that you keep talking yourself up reflects well on you I guess.

has anything that's been said by or about SL recently changed your opinion on him? How confident are you currently that he is scum?


I'm not getting the same thing you are with the quote stream about robik, he said things, he got pressured about it then backed off. I do not get a towny vibe from that at all, the only thing he has somewhat stuck to is scum reading me (which he doesn't have his vote on) and policy lynching kush until kush plays. So no nothing is really changing my read on him currently.

72% right now

See before you were upset because his reads weren't changing, but now that I've pointed out that his reads are in fact changing, you are upset because there is only 1 thing he has stuck to.

I'm not saying SL is definitely town, but the feeling I'm getting from you is that you're going to call him scum regardless of what he posts or any points that anyone else brings up in his defense.


But you are intent on hard defending him no matter what and twn reading him for no reason what so ever. In the context of the post the only thing he stuck to under a small amount of pressure was scum reading me. His town reads over the large didn't get him pressure.

I"ll town read sl when he shows that he is town i'm not afraid to change reads ya know
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2014 04:38 GMT
#828
On December 18 2014 13:35 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 13:26 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 13:20 sciberbia wrote:
On December 18 2014 12:59 Damdred wrote:
On December 18 2014 12:48 sciberbia wrote:
well the fact that you keep talking yourself up reflects well on you I guess.

has anything that's been said by or about SL recently changed your opinion on him? How confident are you currently that he is scum?


I'm not getting the same thing you are with the quote stream about robik, he said things, he got pressured about it then backed off. I do not get a towny vibe from that at all, the only thing he has somewhat stuck to is scum reading me (which he doesn't have his vote on) and policy lynching kush until kush plays. So no nothing is really changing my read on him currently.

72% right now

See before you were upset because his reads weren't changing, but now that I've pointed out that his reads are in fact changing, you are upset because there is only 1 thing he has stuck to.

I'm not saying SL is definitely town, but the feeling I'm getting from you is that you're going to call him scum regardless of what he posts or any points that anyone else brings up in his defense.


But you are intent on hard defending him no matter what and twn reading him for no reason what so ever. In the context of the post the only thing he stuck to under a small amount of pressure was scum reading me. His town reads over the large didn't get him pressure.

I"ll town read sl when he shows that he is town i'm not afraid to change reads ya know


Man if you are town we think about this game completely differently.

I'm going to stop thinking about the damdred vs SL storyline for now. I'd like to see you both make some cases on suspects other than each other. There's more than 1 scum in this game


The game needs to be though differently from different perspectives or we cannot win the game at all, not sure why this is even an issue. Plus SL is still somewhat dodging questions and is just randomly popping one or two sentences in and leaving either way i won't convince you of anything especially since you have me as scum and SL as town lol.

meh i'll find other scum when i filter dive but can only lynch one a day
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