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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 05 2014 15:02 GMT
#78
On December 05 2014 10:26 Holyflare wrote:
Posting restrictions? This sounds totally like my kind of game!


Word.

/in
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 07 2014 16:35 GMT
#124
On December 08 2014 00:52 Xatalos wrote:
Ouch. How did you know that I came from the future to make excuses ahead of time? :O


He used his futur-o-meter, duh.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:15 GMT
#668
The problem I have with 27ninjabunnies lynch right now is that some of the people on the wagon seem pretty shaky themselves.

Fecalfeast

On December 09 2014 09:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Calvin, Calvin, calvin.

Boobs and full length high heels and Jesus was born in summer

Constant stream of nothing from you after already saying you're doing it for WIFOM. You'll run out of posts very soon at this rate.

Why are you fishing for marley specifically?

Thou'rt thick

あなたは既にルールを破って、リングの外に辞任した。なぜあなたはまだ戦うためにしようとしている

I thought being thick was a prerequisite for sumo.

"You are already breaking the rules , resigned to the outside of the ring . Why are trying to order you still fight"

No rules were established beforehand but if you don't want to fite I wont force you.

I was about to comment on the 27NB post but HF beat me to it. Her 'easy scum read' is in her scum pile because only scum is looking for easy scum reads...


This is the entirety of what he has had to say about 27ninjabunnies who I assume is his best scum read given where his vote is. Most of the filter after this point is setup talk, fluff and claiming talk.

Into the leaning scum pile you go.

The_Templar

I find it hard to understand the exact reasoning why he thinks 27ninjabunnies is scum from the roleplay posts. Can I get an "ELI5" version please? No verdict yet.

Half the Sky

Incredibly sketchy vote with no explanation at all, 30 minutes after she supposedly left the thread?

When directly asked to comment on something 27ninjabunnies has posted, skirts around the issue:
On December 09 2014 09:21 Half the Sky wrote:
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On December 09 2014 09:06 Damdred wrote:
So what is your conclussion? Do you think 27nb is town still even though you understand where HF is coming from? Or are you leaning a different way now?

Also talk about 27nb list post some if you can.

What do you make of the froggy post and vivax?


Damdred, once I read that, I've put her in scumpile for now.

Froggy's post to me is a null, although that sentence is contradictory. I think he was trying to say that policy lynches are stupid in comparison to a scum lynch, and then he says "in the absence of a decent slip." Though poorly worded, I can still understand him and I believe he was the one who said before the game that he was returning here after 2 years ago or something, so I wouldn't blame him for saying that. I cannot comment on how things were 2 years ago as I wasn't around then. What I

Vivax's post is also null to me. Again very straightforward, I don't see any reason to sort him either way.


Would lynch, I think.

sicklucker

Another ninja voter who has not mentioned his current lynch candidate even once!

Outlook not so good.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:31 GMT
#674
On December 09 2014 21:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
You should hop on bunnies after reading my filter and be led to great victory




That strategy. Bunnies flip red, HF confirms himself as town, wins the game as mafia. Lynch both


Funny, except I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happened, knowing Holyflare :D
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:33 GMT
#676
Xatalos, what do you think about the others on the wagon? Especially the ones I commented.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:42 GMT
#681
On December 09 2014 12:01 GlowingBear wrote:
K gonna sleep

SL is town rsoultin is town
Bats is scummy

I'm going to lynch kush if I don't see his town tell.

Good night.


Did you explain these reads somewhere? I tried looking in your filter but maybe I missed it. Especially interested in hearing why rsoultin is town.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:48 GMT
#684
On December 09 2014 21:40 Xatalos wrote:
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On December 09 2014 21:33 LoneMeow wrote:
Xatalos, what do you think about the others on the wagon? Especially the ones I commented.


I think sicklucker is highly likely town. It'd be very weird for scum to claim a role during early D1 without any kind of reason or strategy for doing so. Especially in the manner that he did (confused / almost accidental).

Templar also claimed here:

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On December 09 2014 12:21 The_Templar wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote:
So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.

this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all

I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town.

GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion?


Nope because I didn't read anything from the thread. Because I'm bored.

Do you?


I am town GB, but i am unable to give you a present currently if you are good i can share one of my many toys later on as when i was a child i was taught to share if i get one that is.

You should really read the thread and are you blue gb seirously/


And yet you missed every single post where I claimed joyful child...


I think that's also more likely a towny claim than a fakeclaim. He did apparently breadcrumb it too, though I couldn't read everything in his posts because they were so long.


Right, the claims. Not sure what to make of that, sicklucker's is probably the easier to believe claim due to the confused way it happened and timing. I don't quite see why The_Templar claimed when he did but the breadcrumbs do make it at least somewhat believeable.

Not lynch targets for D1 anyway I suppose.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 12:52 GMT
#686
On December 09 2014 21:46 Xatalos wrote:
batsnacks also isn't looking good. HF and kita have made some valid points and I wouldn't call them "sketchy".


I agree about Holyflare and kitaman27 having valid points, although I'm always super paranoid about Holyflare.

The way batsnacks went from Half the Sky to 27ninjabunnies is weird, but I find it hard to believe scum would risk doing such 180 changes of direction instead of going for something safer.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 13:14 GMT
#707
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 13:16 GMT
#710
On December 09 2014 22:09 ritoky wrote:
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On December 09 2014 22:06 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Give a reason HTS why kush claimed.
Come on, try.


The only two possible reasons are that:

1) He is Scrooge and somehow he failed to see Kelsier's second post about claiming Scrooge, an oversight on his part.
2) He's not Scrooge and trying to distract scum but I don't see how scum would fall for something like this.

Neither of which seems to me would get him anywhere. But that's just my opinion unless I'm overlooking something.


so are you saying you KNOW he is town? why can't he be scum?


I would like to call that TMI really, I'd like to think that a normally paranoid townie listing the possibilities would consider that possibility also...
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 13:38 GMT
#719
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.


Since we clearly disagree about Fecalfeast, would you comment on my quite opposite read on him? You don't find it strange at all that he's hardly mentioned the player he's voting at all?

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


Also, since you're still calling sicklucker your only scum read I assume you don't buy his claim?




How strong are these town reads? Can you put them in order from strongest to weakest? Would anything change if I told you to completely ignore meta and only make reads based on this game?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 13:46 GMT
#729
On December 09 2014 22:45 liancourt wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
i thought this was going to be a light game with post restrictions.

+ Show Spoiler +
Would you care to stop being annoying and start participating?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 13:51 GMT
#738
On December 09 2014 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.


"A bit nonsensical"?

The only post he's had that is possibly somewhat game related is said snowman thing.

Definitely on the sketchier side of null if you ask me.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 13:53 GMT
#746
On December 09 2014 22:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:47 Xatalos wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:38 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.


Since we clearly disagree about Fecalfeast, would you comment on my quite opposite read on him? You don't find it strange at all that he's hardly mentioned the player he's voting at all?

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


Also, since you're still calling sicklucker your only scum read I assume you don't buy his claim?




How strong are these town reads? Can you put them in order from strongest to weakest? Would anything change if I told you to completely ignore meta and only make reads based on this game?

Strongest to Weakest in order
HF
Damdred
OWS
FF
rsoultin
Slam
Templar
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.


There are two things wrong with that last paragraph.

1) He claimed named VT, not regular VT. So maybe you shouldn't compare to a VT game.
2) His filter kind of does consist of shenanigans.

The shenanigans this game might just be him doing something different from the shenanigans he did in the last 2 games I played with him (Campus and Student) so it could be off because of that.


So could you perhaps please re-evaluate the entire game from a non-meta perspective? There should be enough content by now to get at least something out a couple of the players without relying on meta.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 13:54 GMT
#748
Honestly if I see one more post from LightningStrike with the word "meta" in it my brain is going to explode.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 14:19 GMT
#767
On December 09 2014 23:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 23:09 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:58 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.

liancourt posts do seem a little odd but it just might be his meta that's all I can think of him.


I havent played with u

how would u know my meta

Ur assuming things

And soft accusing me as scum by saying i m odd

totally mafiya traits lynch this scum

I not accusing you being scum I just found the behavior odd at best don't charge at me :O Also you did play in Titanic and did do similar traps in Titanic so for now Town read but low.


If u read titantic then u shud know how i am playing is normal and not odd and yet u say its odd.

u even say i did similar traps and yet u say here that i am odd

And ur being defensive and taking a step back saying dont charge at me when i ve only given u the slighest of pressure.

Are u one of those mafiya that fall under the smallest pressure

Hey i found scum

I just found the play style odd because no one else do it don't hate me I also not mafia I am town I assure you.


Less assuring and more finding scum.

My read on Fecalfeast:
On December 09 2014 21:15 LoneMeow wrote:
Fecalfeast

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Calvin, Calvin, calvin.

Boobs and full length high heels and Jesus was born in summer

Constant stream of nothing from you after already saying you're doing it for WIFOM. You'll run out of posts very soon at this rate.

Why are you fishing for marley specifically?

Thou'rt thick

あなたは既にルールを破って、リングの外に辞任した。なぜあなたはまだ戦うためにしようとしている

I thought being thick was a prerequisite for sumo.

"You are already breaking the rules , resigned to the outside of the ring . Why are trying to order you still fight"

No rules were established beforehand but if you don't want to fite I wont force you.

I was about to comment on the 27NB post but HF beat me to it. Her 'easy scum read' is in her scum pile because only scum is looking for easy scum reads...


This is the entirety of what he has had to say about 27ninjabunnies who I assume is his best scum read given where his vote is. Most of the filter after this point is setup talk, fluff and claiming talk.

Into the leaning scum pile you go.


You had opposite read, so clearly I'm wrong. Please point out why my analysis is incorrect.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 14:48 GMT
#780
On December 09 2014 23:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 23:19 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:09 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:58 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.

liancourt posts do seem a little odd but it just might be his meta that's all I can think of him.


I havent played with u

how would u know my meta

Ur assuming things

And soft accusing me as scum by saying i m odd

totally mafiya traits lynch this scum

I not accusing you being scum I just found the behavior odd at best don't charge at me :O Also you did play in Titanic and did do similar traps in Titanic so for now Town read but low.


If u read titantic then u shud know how i am playing is normal and not odd and yet u say its odd.

u even say i did similar traps and yet u say here that i am odd

And ur being defensive and taking a step back saying dont charge at me when i ve only given u the slighest of pressure.

Are u one of those mafiya that fall under the smallest pressure

Hey i found scum

I just found the play style odd because no one else do it don't hate me I also not mafia I am town I assure you.


Less assuring and more finding scum.

My read on Fecalfeast:
On December 09 2014 21:15 LoneMeow wrote:
Fecalfeast

On December 09 2014 09:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Calvin, Calvin, calvin.

Boobs and full length high heels and Jesus was born in summer

Constant stream of nothing from you after already saying you're doing it for WIFOM. You'll run out of posts very soon at this rate.

Why are you fishing for marley specifically?

Thou'rt thick

あなたは既にルールを破って、リングの外に辞任した。なぜあなたはまだ戦うためにしようとしている

I thought being thick was a prerequisite for sumo.

"You are already breaking the rules , resigned to the outside of the ring . Why are trying to order you still fight"

No rules were established beforehand but if you don't want to fite I wont force you.

I was about to comment on the 27NB post but HF beat me to it. Her 'easy scum read' is in her scum pile because only scum is looking for easy scum reads...


This is the entirety of what he has had to say about 27ninjabunnies who I assume is his best scum read given where his vote is. Most of the filter after this point is setup talk, fluff and claiming talk.

Into the leaning scum pile you go.


You had opposite read, so clearly I'm wrong. Please point out why my analysis is incorrect.

FF plays very similar to his game on Campus where I thought he was scum but he wasn't. He also got some decent questions.


The meta again, sigh. What I really wanted you to do is comment on my read. According to you it must be wrong, so can you please explain what you disagree with in it?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 14:55 GMT
#782
On December 09 2014 23:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 11:59 rsoultin wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:54 sicklucker wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:49 The_Templar wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.

I am 98% sure that any role can get presents, as far as we know.


Think about it the Joyful Child role has no description but it is a role its basically vanilla town 2.0. I have a present and im a joyful child it adds up. Its pretty obvious. Im pretty sure something dandred said makes me ride or die with him maybe gb too. Let me look it up.


Lol, dude, sad part is I actually believe you. You would be the type to get a present and think it's just for you, regardless of what palmar said xP But dontcha know, children are supposed to get presents, not give them.

##unvote


I've got my read after this post, Meow.

This kind of read on SL seems ok to me. That's how I see SL too. I don't see mafia motivation behind this post, but just a guy who simply posts what comes to his mind, which looks to me like a town trait.


Alright, seems reasonable.

What's your take on LightningStrike who's been under some serious questioning recently?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 09 2014 15:20 GMT
#800
On December 10 2014 00:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 23:55 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:59 rsoultin wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:54 sicklucker wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:49 The_Templar wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.

I am 98% sure that any role can get presents, as far as we know.


Think about it the Joyful Child role has no description but it is a role its basically vanilla town 2.0. I have a present and im a joyful child it adds up. Its pretty obvious. Im pretty sure something dandred said makes me ride or die with him maybe gb too. Let me look it up.


Lol, dude, sad part is I actually believe you. You would be the type to get a present and think it's just for you, regardless of what palmar said xP But dontcha know, children are supposed to get presents, not give them.

##unvote


I've got my read after this post, Meow.

This kind of read on SL seems ok to me. That's how I see SL too. I don't see mafia motivation behind this post, but just a guy who simply posts what comes to his mind, which looks to me like a town trait.


Alright, seems reasonable.

What's your take on LightningStrike who's been under some serious questioning recently?


I'm still not reading the thread closely so I don't know what's going on. I'll be doing it after half of the day. I'm just gathering information for now.

What is questionable on his play this game?


He has some weirdly strong town reads based on meta only, and his only scum read is sicklucker. Also it has been very difficult to pry some reads that aren't the same meta reads over and over from him.

Looking at his previous games though... I dunno, maybe not the best option for today.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 10 2014 09:08 GMT
#1187
On December 10 2014 18:01 Koshi wrote:
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On December 10 2014 12:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone explain the nb votes to me like I'm dumb? I feel like I missed something but I don't know what that is. I can't remember the points against her being spectacular in the first place.

Also kind of weirded out by the fact that Koshi apparently knows my meta now. His read on me is generally inaccurate/based on me posting big meaty posts, so having him come out and say "OWS is useless and could be scum" when he loves to give me tons of leeway is strange.

I tend to babysit people more in smaller games. This game. Not so much.


27nb claimed Mason (Carol Singer)
She is town unless there is no Mason group at all.


Except she says she did not claim.

On December 10 2014 09:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:05 liancourt wrote:
where did ninja claim mason


I didn't.

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