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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 22:39 GMT
#2595
Unfortunately, KSC, you and HF are the wagons right now.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 22:42 GMT
#2600
Lol yeah like...I really think that if we hit scum today at all it'll be by accident, but I don't have you as a townread so...not much else for it. The others ppl have been trying to lynch with the exception of FF are all townreads of mine -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 22:49 GMT
#2609
Well, Trfel, I would like to hear you're explanation for the switch to HF, since by your evidence it made more sense for you to be on KSC.

That said, it's hard not to waver when only one of the people up for lynch is here to defend themselves, lol.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 22:57 GMT
#2619
Viv has done some other odd things throughout the game. His arguments against both Xata and you leaked like sieves. I wanted Xata to tell me why bunnies and no one else, but Viv had about four or five other points that were easily debunked.

But what was really weird was his FF case based on night kills, and then coming back at Oats super hard when Oats said NK analysis isn't a good way to scumhunt. Basically said Oats was mafia just for that one statement.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:04 GMT
#2633
Lolol

NOW will ppl bother looking at friggin GB?

He insisted we should keep the vote between FF and HF
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:15 GMT
#2650
Lol no shit Trfel. He claims opening a present N1, doesn't get interfered with. And claims a NK/KS was the gift. Then says that's not a stupid move as town.

I've been saying this is ridiculous all day -_-

But we got mafia anyway so I'm happy
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:16 GMT
#2652
...you @ rikoty.

Or GB, but at this point that's mostly just cause I'm tired of him yelling about one push all friggin day. Oh, that and threatening us about it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:18 GMT
#2655
On December 14 2014 08:16 liancourt wrote:
hey rit shoot hf


Dude, no. KSC knew he was being lynched. Why would he go, no, no, don't kill HF, kill FF? if HF was mafia with him? He didn't even try to derail the lynch.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:19 GMT
#2656
EBWOP:
That was just as much WIFOM as claiming HF was mafia based on his flip. I know this. But I'm going to WIFOM against the WIFOM to prove a point.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:27 GMT
#2666
SL, I <3 you dude, but half the time you don't make sense.

You're telling people to claim unless they were a possible lynch? During the night? Then seem to not realize why people are accusing you of role hunting? Even if mafia can't do anything about it tonight, they can false claim or just get them night 3.

I still completely get why ppl scumread you so often lol even if I still think you're town xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:28 GMT
#2669
On December 14 2014 08:23 Holyflare wrote:
Case completely destroyed. Nobody batted an eyelid. A lynch wagon starts on me and gb only starts to try this pressure on me after I say I can't post. His second half of his case is like the same points he has been bringing up the entire day.

Nobody even gave a shit that I wasn't here to defend at all.


You're hurting my feelings here -_- I won't scumread you for it, but HURT FEELINGS. Xat backed you up too.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:30 GMT
#2672
Also, SL, kindly read both of my posts, including the EBWOP, before pointing out the flaw that I've already pointed out.

Please and thank you. Donkey indeed.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:39 GMT
#2682
On December 14 2014 08:34 sicklucker wrote:
Ok this is directed at ritoky.

I just read all the roles and you should tell us who your shooting at eon (not now) like at 5:59 tormorow eastern time. Like your getting blocked regardless so that wont matter anyway. This can help people who dont think your town confirm you but ultimately its up to you.


GD it SL why do you never think things through? That would prove nothing -_-. The point is nothing but ritoky dying tonight proves anything. Oh, I said I'd shoot so-and-so but it didn't go through! I must have been RBd!

You can't see the flaw in that for those who think he is mafia?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:45 GMT
#2687
Oats scumread Viva after Viva posted that FF push based on NKs and an early, underdeveloped case on FFs play (that he made people go read).

Whether Oats was right or not doesn't matter. He did vote for a scumread of his.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 23:55 GMT
#2697
Eh, I don't care anymore @ SL. Do what you will.

It's not anti-town to point out that a confirmation isn't an actual confirmation. But I'm kind of tired of fighting you on things. I think it detracts from the purpose of the game to keep doing it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 14 2014 00:07 GMT
#2715
I want you dead @GB lol. Oh, wait, that's not new.

KSC is dead though.

Dead scum=winning
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 14 2014 00:31 GMT
#2729
SL, why are you so sure about GB?

And if you say anything more about presents I think I may just ignore you for the rest of the game, lol. At the very least I would consider it ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 14 2014 00:42 GMT
#2732
Is there anyone around here actually interested in a discussion? Cause if not I see no need to bear witness to a pissing contest between GB and HF...can just read it all later.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 14 2014 00:46 GMT
#2734
Here is the real question:

Is Oats ever around at this time? I don't seem to remember him being around ever. I think his schedule doesn't line up with EoD very well...so where his vote is probably means very little if he's not around to change it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 14 2014 01:34 GMT
#2740
On December 14 2014 10:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 10:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 14 2014 10:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 14 2014 09:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't think it really matters either way since I always look for agenda in someone's votes when scum flips, and I don't see any in Oats' votes.

They're useless, but they're town useless imo.

I might do some wagon analysis later on, we'll see.


Can you tell me how do you distinguish town useless from mafia useless?


See above: where is the scum motivation in leaving your vote off of both main wagons when scum is one of the wagons?

His vote could have changed the outcome. It didn't; hence, no real agenda behind his useless vote.

If Holyflare is scum, then that might change things based on the fact that he might have implicated himself...but it's still unlikely. scum!Oats can still get a lot of mileage out of some towncred even if both wagons are scum. Oats is not a target for tomorrow based on his vote.


You're awesome.
But, thinking of it that way, scum probably consolidated on HFs wagon, if HF is town, right?


Lol is this a trap of some sort? What prevents scum from being on either wagon? Though if we're looking for odd votes that changed suddenly, Vivax was pushing KSC in Day 1 and Day 2...then suddenly shifts to HF with nothing to say for himself than "GBs case convinced me".

HF turns out to be town, that would be the first spot I'd look. KSC seems like a good alt lynch to divide up town votes, but not so good when everyone jumps on board, no? By the same reasoning, Trfel's position was odd. He makes a good case against KSC, argues against GB's case enough to put KSC as the better lynch, then last minute also switches to HF on a "gut feeling". Though he was also the one asking Vivax why Vivax switched. Which is weird since neither seemed to have great reasons to do so.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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