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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 19 2014 11:36 GMT
#4205
On December 19 2014 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
Like ill totally look at gb later his game has def been off. Like the reason im town reading him mainly is because some of my points I got from him and there REALLY GOOD. Maybe he just gave me to much info if you know what I mean. Either way we learn alot about him with an hf flip


You could also learn about HF with a GB flip yet you arbitrarily choose HF first.

Look at the the interactions between them and flipped scum and come back with the insight that GB looks worse off it. The time he starts pushing HF is at some point after votes ritoky.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 19 2014 12:03 GMT
#4212
On December 19 2014 20:45 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax breaking dat contract :O :O :O!

Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 20:36 Vivax wrote:
On December 19 2014 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
Like ill totally look at gb later his game has def been off. Like the reason im town reading him mainly is because some of my points I got from him and there REALLY GOOD. Maybe he just gave me to much info if you know what I mean. Either way we learn alot about him with an hf flip


You could also learn about HF with a GB flip yet you arbitrarily choose HF first.

Look at the the interactions between them and flipped scum and come back with the insight that GB looks worse off it. The time he starts pushing HF is at some point after votes ritoky.



can you explain that to the lazy? (me)


Well as I said GB went nuts on you after you voted ritoky. He first mildly suspects him for claiming the present, then says he can't figure out the town motivation, then accuses you of not pushing ritoky for claiming the present, then says the claim is unlikely to come from mafia. Later it's his drunk gibberish and the push on you. When he accuses you of not pushing ritoky for the claim but ignoring everything else and calling it a timid push from you it read to me like TMI cause it's like he should have been scumreading him himself but actually didn't.

You openly suspected both Kelsier and ritoky from D1 on and at some point you argue about something with one of them, that didn't look much like scum-scum to me.

@sl
Can switch back to Templar np. I feel differently strong about my suspects depending on what I recently read that irked me ^^.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 19 2014 12:10 GMT
#4215
On December 19 2014 21:04 Holyflare wrote:
yes anyone can just read like page 4 of my filter and it's pretty fucking obvious i'm not mafia


Well I don't think it's that easy since you're pretty good scum as I had the chance to witness multiple times, like that time you hardbussed your teammate D1 and skated easily into victory, or the time you smurfed and you claimed that you had an accident ^^

And yes it's probably suboptimal play that I'm all over the place but that's just me following my feelings and not being as methodical as I probably should. Going back to Templaaaaaaar.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 19 2014 14:20 GMT
#4221
What I can criticize about HF's case is that it came at a time where people were already willing to vote Templar so it didn't exactly add much novelty. You could call it a nail in the coffin but it also looks a bit like overkill, something a scum HF could have done just cause he said he would write a huge wall of text case previously, and not something we really needed.

I didn't even read it lol, Templar is an easy gut-read at this point and before, based on my previous games with him.

Sorry HF I don't think I will ever feel confident enough to call you town after my past experiences, there are these interactions with scum that suggest townie but I fully trust you'd have the means of planting them on purpose.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 19 2014 18:12 GMT
#4263
You explained that part I found suspicious sufficiently GB. Today we must lynch either Templar or HF in order to get a better edge.

I'm currently in my bed staring at the D2 end votecount and I'm 100 % sure that the solution is in there. I know for sure that FF was the scum wagon of choice initially, and they dissipated later along with the wagon and moved onto HF and/or Kelsier.

From an information point of view it would actually be better to lynch HF cause it would give us a lot of information about the D2 votecount.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 19 2014 18:15 GMT
#4264
But Templar is so obvious scum I'd lynch him first. I'll try to get more information without HF having to die for it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 19 2014 18:30 GMT
#4269
Won't be around for deadline either. I pray that it's gonna be either templar or HF getting lynched and not GB or I'll never get anything out of that D2 votecount.

Preferred order is this Templar>HF>GB.

If you're on GB: Remember that bats got night killed when he kept pressing on to lynch HF cause ritoky "saved" him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 20 2014 06:58 GMT
#4559
I have no words for this town. I'm especially disappointed in rsoultin cause he seemed like a decent townie, and then he got so easily manipulated. Wouldn't be surprised if the scum team is this at this point.

On December 20 2014 08:23 Palmar wrote:
templar: 5 - sicklucker, oatsmaster, alakaslam, holyflare, vivax
holyflare: 4 - fecalfeast, tubesock, glowingbear, liancourt
tubesock: 5 - lightningstrike, xatalos, templar, rsoultin, half the sky

This is my final votecount. Seeing as tubesock was the first person to reach 5 votes between the two (templar was at 4 until sicklucker's last counted vote), the lynch is:

Tubesock


I'll be a dick now and say: Fuck you guys. It had to be one of Templar or HF AND NOONE ELSE and if you don't see this you're either amazingly stupid or scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 20 2014 07:05 GMT
#4560
Now this HF bullshit will go on and nobody has a clue what he is.
Templarscum is still alive.

Literally I would lynch down that wagon on tubesock out of spite cause it's just that awful. When I saw the lynch outcome I didn't want to win this game anymore.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 20 2014 07:23 GMT
#4561
I'll find out who started this wagon when I'm arsed to play again and then we're gonna have a few words.
You children murderer.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 20 2014 09:00 GMT
#4579
On December 20 2014 17:57 sicklucker wrote:
I never said ff was a likely mafia like ever? I just said it was possible he was the non green check role. Ya I thought templar is total scum and he still probably is. But because you pushed him I want to lynch him after the two other obvious mafia for obvious reasons.

Hts is my top mafia read now I would say its strongly meta. In her first campus game where we were town leaders we won the game together basically. There she was a tryhard here she barely posted and here its only when its convient for mafia like that tubesock lynch. Her filter is like 1/10th of her game as town. Shes afraid to interact with me and never responds. The list just goes on and on.

Ill push her tomorrow were like in triple lylo so the order wont matter anymore im going for my most highest percent chance first.

Can you tell me why shes town if you dont agree?


Similar to my templar read. In fact HTS mafia would fit considering she was part of the counterwagon force with Templar and Xata who has a sitck up his bum and kept posting nonsense reasons for his voteswitches and preferences throughout the game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#4587
On December 20 2014 09:39 rsoultin wrote:
lol not technically HF

8:4 - 2 NKs
8:3 - scumlynch
5:3 - 2 NKs
5:2 - scumlynch
3:2 - 2 NKs
3:1 - scumlynch
2:1 - 1 NK
yolo??

but yeah...can't afford another mislynch ><


Like
HOW CAN YOU BE AWARE OF THIS AND VOTE TUBE.
WHAT A DAMN THROW.
Been lynching scum all day except D1 and then there's this shit. D3 when I'm not around at EoD scum sneaks in a mislynch thanks to 2 noobs. Lynch Xata/Templar/HTS and if we don't win it's thanks to this day. Xata'ss voteswitches being legendary shitty scummy voteswitches AGAIN.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 20 2014 13:59 GMT
#4595
On December 20 2014 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
slam is super useless man.


Way more useful than the standard I'm used to, Slam is doing well this game and I don't get the feeling he simply piles up on mislynches.
Quite the opposite for you. Wasted votes, bad thread overview, weird scumreads, including me. Low thread presence.

But that wagon on tubesock must have been fueled by all the scummers and if it wasn't town deserves to lose.
Killing either Templar or HF would have told us a fuckton about the D2 votecount (for example, if Templar flipped town we would know that no scum was on HF and he's thus scum, if Templar was scum we'd have known that HF most likely is town) and instead an IC gets lynched that gives us no information at all.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 20 2014 14:03 GMT
#4596
Not that it matters cause now I'll just stubbornly lynch Templar->Xata-> HTS without going back to reading anything, idgaf since that tubesock lynch.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
December 23 2014 03:37 GMT
#5201
Keeping HF alive was worth it with the fake puke pics, the contract and the story of his yelling gf.

On the other hand I have no clue why Templar played town so differently from how I'm used to.
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