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On December 13 2014 09:39 rsoultin wrote:
People think he scum-slipped by saying there were 5 mafia up for lynch @ liancourt
He's a brand new player so in general I'm giving him more leeway than others...but I can see their point.
New players dont guess theres 6 mafia pregame they ask people what they think. And they certainly dont change their mind that theres 5 mafia after. New players slip the most anyways.
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On December 13 2014 09:56 Vivax wrote:
Trfel is a decent lynch as well. I coached the guy when he was town in student mafia and he made high quality posts on day 1, leading him to be townread by the majority and subsequently nightkilled by the mafia on N1.
In this game he has 1 page of filter and is constantly under the radar, doesn't try to have an impact on the game, and makes his entrance just pre-deadline for no particular given reason/excuse.
seconded I was the one who town read him off one post that meta read on bats lol like who does that. Also this read tells me your town.
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On December 13 2014 12:32 batsnacks wrote:
Vivax vote Trfel with me?
Or maybe rsoultin. He has a stick up his ass this game. He was a lot calmer last game. I've never seen anyone engage me as calmly as he did in Student Mafia and I was out in full force.
Na hes the same hes always been vulgar, rude n mean in all his posts you just didnt notice that game because you were too ;p
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On December 13 2014 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm kind of tempted to lynch Vivax atm.
That last list post was pretty bad.
Not really its just the easy lynches tho. Hes so townie
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On December 13 2014 09:57 rsoultin wrote:Coulda sworn you'd said who you were sending the present to. And now I know why. You all but did. I came to the conclusion mid-day yesterday and remembered it as you saying it, lol. Still, if I get that strong an impression off it, anyone could. Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 11:54 sicklucker wrote:On December 09 2014 11:49 The_Templar wrote:On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.
Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.
Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in. I am 98% sure that any role can get presents, as far as we know. Think about it the Joyful Child role has no description but it is a role its basically vanilla town 2.0. I have a present and im a joyful child it adds up. Its pretty obvious. Im pretty sure something dandred said makes me ride or die with him maybe gb too. Let me look it up. Then: Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 12:01 sicklucker wrote:
Also Gb didnt get my child reference HE IS NOT OF THE CHILDREN. i need to stop spamming small posts for there is a limit Then: Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 00:52 sicklucker wrote:
Also Gb just said hes a role for no reason. Wtf man do not open that present. Then: Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 01:02 sicklucker wrote:
Ok I just sent my gift now to someone im sure is town and not going to get killed tonight. Open it if you think im town its not the death present I think. I think a mafia starts with that one but im not sure. You thought GB had claimed a role, you already said you'd ride or die with Damdred, and you say in your last post that you're sure they're town and won't be killed. Tell me that's not obvious? Pretty sure the only other you even mention as a townread before you said you sent your gift was HF.
Your case is way too good on this makes me suspect you I feel like you were role hunting or copied this out of the scum qt. Your correct mafia could sniff this out except there more likely to wait to do something about it as hes going to die on his own 1/3 times. Its a waste of kp especially with a rber who can get ride of it with 1 visit forever. Also if its the seer present they can kill him the next night before he reveals so its only 1/3 presents that can hurt them the next night.
Its just too much of a coincidence but possible altho very unlikely which is why I said 90% not 100%. Also not that important. But you gave it more thought at the time then me which is interesting.
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So heres why I think its unlikely gb is mafia since he does not have his full wits.
So gb gives his present to ritoky. I disagree but its most likely from a town perspective let me explain.
Ritiky was a mislynch candidate its really bad for a mafia to give a present to a mislynch target because a present is the same as a role and he can clear himself like if ritoky kills mafia in the night. The only way gb is mafia and gives the present to him is if they are both mafia which still does not make any sense because they should just never mention it.
Like only a town is going to say they have a present because they can look scummy if it ends up in bad hands or used incorrectly. Like mafia almost always never says they have a present. Theres a reason only 2 of the 3 present givers came out because the third is mafia.
Oh and gb sent his present to ritoky like 3 hours after the game started. I dont think a mafia jumps the gun like that.
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Why im like a specialist at this point t.t
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I think slams mafia but ive only really ever played with him as his mafia brother so I have no clue. He was obvious that game and he feels obvious this game. Did you really roll scum 3 games inarow slammy baby?
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On December 13 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:
Sl can you stop saying the 3rd present owner is mafia when you literally have no idea whether
A) they opened it at all to cc ritokys claim
B) you spent half the day berating ritoky for claiming he had a present but now want the 3rd person to claim for no reason.
It's also perfectly reasonable that they thought ritoky was going to get lynched because I was starting to push him so needed to give the present to him so he could wifom the hell out of the day.
Also a reasonable explanation that now you think rsoultin has tmi and knew you were sending the present to damd that mafia could easily make the plays above without even opening the presents.
You are putting way too much stock into presents this game and far too little actual game analysis.
Lie I want the original holder to claim not who has it now and since no ones claiming its proving my point its in mafias hands. It may be annoying but i have gained as much info if not more then anyone in this game.
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On December 13 2014 14:35 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:24 sicklucker wrote:
So heres why I think its unlikely gb is mafia since he does not have his full wits.
So gb gives his present to ritoky. I disagree but its most likely from a town perspective let me explain.
Ritiky was a mislynch candidate its really bad for a mafia to give a present to a mislynch target because a present is the same as a role and he can clear himself like if ritoky kills mafia in the night. The only way gb is mafia and gives the present to him is if they are both mafia which still does not make any sense because they should just never mention it.
Like only a town is going to say they have a present because they can look scummy if it ends up in bad hands or used incorrectly. Like mafia almost always never says they have a present. Theres a reason only 2 of the 3 present givers came out because the third is mafia.
Oh and gb sent his present to ritoky like 3 hours after the game started. I dont think a mafia jumps the gun like that. Okay, so have you considered the scenario where one mafia might give another mafia a present (because obviously giving town one isn't going to be to their advantage). Said mafia could claim it (especially a NK but also a seer cause they know everyone's alignment already), not open it, and pass it on to another mafia again. Thus delaying a potential lynch of the suspicious mafia member another day. I'm not saying this is what happened, but is it not possible?
Yes of course which is why im not saying their for sure town just more likely. Individually they dont seem townie but together they do if that makes sense. Like I have them both null leaning town but together that makes them a pretty strong town. Its really risky and bad to align themselves like this which is more fuel to suspect their town.
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This is how ff has played are last 3 games together and ive always struggled to get him lynched or mislynched but it rarely happens. Im actually surprised its happening for once but he could totally be town based on his previous play which is unfortunate. Like were gonna have to kill him at some point thats the cold hard truth so I dont mind voting him hes in my top 2 or 3. Id rather him be veg shot but after last night that might not be an option.
FF if your a role its time to claim between this mob and a potential veg who should totally kill you its time to claim.
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Gb got like alot more drunk in 30 minutes.
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On December 13 2014 15:08 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 15:06 Holyflare wrote:On December 12 2014 08:40 Vivax wrote:
I've looked at the dead guys filters and I think I'll just sheep onto their scumreads, namely
ritoky, FF, Oats for kita
Obi, froggy and FF for lone
I think ritoky for Koshi
Kush got killed by Marley and played horribly.
Gonna evaluate them individually.
If we have a vig he's stupid for not killing Alakaslam. Oooooooooo Vivax can you explain why you left damdred out of this list of dead peoples reads you were checking or is it because he opened an exploding present and wasn't a nk  ? Cause he claimed joyful child or w/e it's called and I figured mafia mostly killed him for being a named VT and not for his reads. Tho in my latest post I also considered his reads, given that other JC claims didn't die.
What this is so wrong you lost my town read. Mafia wont kill named vts for that reason n1 they role hunt.
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Like I expect to be alive a long while for the same reason I suspect mafia wouldn't kill dandred. I'd be shocked if im not alive tormorow
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Town
Ls
GB
Ritoky
xata
bats
leaning town
slam
hts
No clue lurkers so probable mafia
FF
Oats
KC
obishinobi
Froggy
Mafia
Tfel
tubesock
Gets his own catagory
Holyflare nothing particular scummy but hes a good player and if hes this much against ritoky and gb who im town reading hes more then likely mafia
The_templar no clue look at him later not the lynch today or probably torm either
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I forgot rstoulin town. Ya ok I hate it but your town.;p
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On December 13 2014 15:46 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 15:43 Trfel wrote:On December 13 2014 15:39 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?
Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.
Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.
Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.
This post looks so mafia to me right now. You have a -lot- more reasons for Trfel being mafia but you don't care about that at all, do you? How many reasons are there for me being mafia? I count a grand total of one: lack of participation in the thread. To be fair, that is a pretty big reason. I'm doing my best to change that. I reiterate, the size of this game is giving me a ton of trouble, and I haven't been able to come up with anything amazing yet. I am really sorry that I haven't been able to play at the level that I hoped to play at, no excuses. I will keep trying my best, as that is all I can do. Hoping to come up with something soon, as I'm actually quite embarrassed by the amount of time I have spent on this game to not come up with any original scumreads. WHY DON'T YOU STOP TRYING TO BE AMAZING AND JUST POST SHIT Literally, shit. Post it. That's what everyone else is doing right now. It's SHIT. Maybe your SHIT is better than their SHIT? It can't be worse.
Like how is this not town slam? To answer your question. Bats has become one of my strongest reads tonight hes very interactive and made some good points. Also after last game my standards for him being town are lower :D. As for slight reading you, idk your my worst santa should check his list twice.
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You said it yourself your a good lynch. Dont defend yourself and make excuses it will only hurt you help us find scum.
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So I can make logical assumptions I do this all the time. The guys who got killed were not scum read and like people were screaming to shoot people like ff. I feel like your grasping air.
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On December 14 2014 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see how GB's stuff is super relevant now, we arent lynching sl today regardless.
Its pretty relevant we should be close to never lynch any of us three and win the game
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