EPTHe's straight up throwing his vote away and isn't doing anything. This game is a disaster and he isn't doing anything to fix it. It's driving me mad.
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ObiWanShinobi
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He's straight up throwing his vote away and isn't doing anything. This game is a disaster and he isn't doing anything to fix it. It's driving me mad. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On December 14 2014 04:57 GlowingBear wrote: Obi, trust me. Vote for holyflare. Trust me please. Maybe. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On December 14 2014 04:59 batsnacks wrote: Who are you voting OWS? Do you want to vote Trfel with me? I have no idea. 5 PM deadlines are literally hitler and I can never find the time to make a proper decision. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On December 14 2014 05:01 batsnacks wrote: Is there anything you want to talk about that would help you arrive at a decision? Many things. I've got less than 2 minutes to talk about any of those things though. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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If my votes look weird, ask me when I get back and I'll try to explain them as best I can. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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Still reading and such. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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Can't find them on phone. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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Fuck this deadline. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On December 14 2014 08:33 Xatalos wrote: Looking at the votecount I'm starting to think Oats might be a decent target for the shot. He just absolutely wasted his vote... He didn't care enough to even vote for his scumread (Froggy). It would have also been wasted, of course, but it's even worse that he didn't manage to vote his scumread during the day. Okay, so where's the scum motivation in keeping your vote useless instead of saving your scum partner? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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They're useless, but they're town useless imo. I might do some wagon analysis later on, we'll see. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On December 14 2014 10:03 GlowingBear wrote: Can you tell me how do you distinguish town useless from mafia useless? See above: where is the scum motivation in leaving your vote off of both main wagons when scum is one of the wagons? His vote could have changed the outcome. It didn't; hence, no real agenda behind his useless vote. If Holyflare is scum, then that might change things based on the fact that he might have implicated himself...but it's still unlikely. scum!Oats can still get a lot of mileage out of some towncred even if both wagons are scum. Oats is not a target for tomorrow based on his vote. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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I just realized there's actually a scenario where Oats could be scum with Holyflare, but that would depend on the mafia team so absolved of thread influence that two mafia were the leading wagons and the whole team is made up of useless players with no thread pull. Just an fyi, Holyflare is anything but useless. It would be amazing if that were the case, but I don't think it is: out of the people who fit the bill based on their votes, LS is a claimed role as well, so it's unlikely. All of this is mostly speculation at this point. I need to do more legwork to get my analysis out before I most likely get shot.  | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On December 14 2014 10:34 rsoultin wrote: Lol is this a trap of some sort? What prevents scum from being on either wagon? Though if we're looking for odd votes that changed suddenly, Vivax was pushing KSC in Day 1 and Day 2...then suddenly shifts to HF with nothing to say for himself than "GBs case convinced me". HF turns out to be town, that would be the first spot I'd look. KSC seems like a good alt lynch to divide up town votes, but not so good when everyone jumps on board, no? By the same reasoning, Trfel's position was odd. He makes a good case against KSC, argues against GB's case enough to put KSC as the better lynch, then last minute also switches to HF on a "gut feeling". Though he was also the one asking Vivax why Vivax switched. Which is weird since neither seemed to have great reasons to do so. The bolded is a good catch. I have to look into that as well. Scum can be anywhere, but where's the scum motivation in throwing your own partner under the bus when the alternative is lynching Holyflare, who is a role? You think it's impossible, but I'm telling you that in a choice between my scum partner and a high-profile player who is incredibly dangerous, I lynch Holyflare every time. I actually got caught doing this in my scum game, so saying that it's still probable for scum to be on the KSC wagon if HF is town is really, really weird. Also, Trfel is town. There is literally no world where we lynch KSC today without his analysis so him getting impulsive (another townie quality) and switching because he lost his nerve/confidence means little in the grand scheme of things. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On December 14 2014 10:47 GlowingBear wrote: I've never seen you this townie, obi. Btw, what do you make of Kelsier keeping his vote on FF since the beginning, obi? Wagon/environment analysis is kind of my thing. KSC keeping his vote on FF, especially when it looked like FF getting lynched was a very real possibility, means that FF is more likely to be town. But he still needs to step his shit up and play because there's no way he can coast off of that fact. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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ObiWanShinobi
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Inclined to believe Oats is town as well. Find different targets. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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I have two people on the HF wagon as townreads and two others are claimed roles. ... | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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Seriously. None. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On December 15 2014 07:05 Vivax wrote: I'm surely not going to out it before the night ends. Scum doesn't know if my role is scrooge related and hence useless or if I can use my power to better ends, if I claim it now they know exactly whether to rb/shoot me or not. I'm perfectly okay with you claiming and getting rb'd or shot. Saves us the trouble of sorting you. | ||
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