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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
December 22 2014 23:36 GMT
#5101
On December 23 2014 08:33 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 08:25 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2014 08:25 Xatalos wrote:
rsoultin: You were definitely good at creating constructive discussion. Unfortunately your reads were pretty off target throughout the game. But I guess it wasn't all that easy to figure out me&HF were scum... HF especially put a lot of effort into some of his posts.

Any tips for me?


Hmm... I guess putting more effort into analysing stuff yourself and focusing on actually scummy motivations rather than dumb things that don't make much sense to do as scum (like Tube's crazy posting frenzies). Coaching could help with those things? You were pretty easily swayed by long cases which means you weren't very confident in your own opinions (that's understandable though). That also meant it didn't make much sense for us to kill you.

This will be my 3rd complete game and 1st win too :O So I can't get coached unless someone will vouch for me to get coached in a noobie game I wasn't convenient in my scum reading because I had no chance to really do it in Campus Mafia and was Scum in Student IV
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 22 2014 23:37 GMT
#5102
On December 23 2014 08:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Xat, why I wasn't killed?


You were a mislynch target, VT and it would look pretty bad for HF if you died at night. During later nights we mostly hunted for the Medic (Nigella) and people who wouldn't be protected / whose deaths wouldn't really implicate us that much.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 22 2014 23:39 GMT
#5103
I wish I got to blast you Xata that would have been sweet.

Did you guys roleblock me last night as well?
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 22 2014 23:44 GMT
#5104
On December 23 2014 08:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 08:33 Xatalos wrote:
On December 23 2014 08:25 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2014 08:25 Xatalos wrote:
rsoultin: You were definitely good at creating constructive discussion. Unfortunately your reads were pretty off target throughout the game. But I guess it wasn't all that easy to figure out me&HF were scum... HF especially put a lot of effort into some of his posts.

Any tips for me?


Hmm... I guess putting more effort into analysing stuff yourself and focusing on actually scummy motivations rather than dumb things that don't make much sense to do as scum (like Tube's crazy posting frenzies). Coaching could help with those things? You were pretty easily swayed by long cases which means you weren't very confident in your own opinions (that's understandable though). That also meant it didn't make much sense for us to kill you.

This will be my 3rd complete game and 1st win too :O So I can't get coached unless someone will vouch for me to get coached in a noobie game I wasn't convenient in my scum reading because I had no chance to really do it in Campus Mafia and was Scum in Student IV


Well, generally speaking time spent on learning -> skill. Just by playing / observing you will learn a lot. The most important tool for efficient scumhunting would probably be learning how the various players here play as different roles since it's usually difficult even for the best players to judge a complete question mark (smurf / new player). Although there are some general rules for scumhunting that are often correct... Such as the fact that scum often tend to be more active early and then reduce their activity, and scum often have weird reasoning for their reads (since the reads are mostly made up / they may be "true" for townreads but a townread might be stronger than it *should* be when you talk about it as scum, for example).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 22 2014 23:44 GMT
#5105
On December 23 2014 08:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
I wish I got to blast you Xata that would have been sweet.

Did you guys roleblock me last night as well?


Yes.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 22 2014 23:51 GMT
#5106
I very much doubt the game will continue to the next day (since I think we'd need something like 3 more mislynches now LOL, thanks to HTS...), but I won't reveal my whole team yet just in case. But as I said, I highly doubt it'll continue.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 22 2014 23:55 GMT
#5107
On December 23 2014 08:25 Xatalos wrote:
rsoultin: You were definitely good at creating constructive discussion. Unfortunately your reads were pretty off target throughout the game. But I guess it wasn't all that easy to figure out me&HF were scum... HF especially put a lot of effort into some of his posts.


Lol, I got him at the end xP Granted, I haven't read what happened after that and might have changed my mind if I'd been around to read it but...

woot! lol >< and yes, my reads were off. I distracted myself with SL way too much and was convinced GB was scum lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 22 2014 23:58 GMT
#5108
By the way, this is the reason why Damdred died

"People who i love but am suspicious of
Xatalos (its just so formulaic and looks so town, he once told me that hes probably mafia when he actually looks town)"
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 23 2014 00:00 GMT
#5109
Dude, I want to ask slam a question but the game isn't officially over :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 23 2014 00:07 GMT
#5110
Lol, this is funny. 6 hours after I say let's lynch HF he's doing jack shit, he comes out with that massive post with me as his primary scumread xP cute...how did the wagon shift to hts? (suppose I should keep reading, will stop the running commentary)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 23 2014 00:11 GMT
#5111
On December 23 2014 09:07 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, this is funny. 6 hours after I say let's lynch HF he's doing jack shit, he comes out with that massive post with me as his primary scumread xP cute...how did the wagon shift to hts? (suppose I should keep reading, will stop the running commentary)


1 HF voted me, and two others did.
2 In his massive case, I was far and away the scummiest player in his list. Far and away. It was quite convincing and if I were someone else, I would have definitely voted myself.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 23 2014 00:13 GMT
#5112
On December 23 2014 08:36 LightningStrike wrote:
This will be my 3rd complete game and 1st win too :O So I can't get coached unless someone will vouch for me to get coached in a noobie game I wasn't convenient in my scum reading because I had no chance to really do it in Campus Mafia and was Scum in Student IV


Next student game will be my third. I need to work on my townie game in general, can you request a coach (assuming you don't RNG scum, who I imagine get one as a group)?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 23 2014 00:14 GMT
#5113
On December 23 2014 08:13 Xatalos wrote:
Oh, almost forgot:

[image loading]


Awwwwwwwww so cute.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 23 2014 00:16 GMT
#5114
On December 23 2014 07:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 07:56 rsoultin wrote:
Lol figured she might be. only hts would think i was woth protecting <3 and i thought ritoky may not be lying about who he tried to shoot. thanks hts

Ritoky did a bigger blooper than batsnacks in Student IV


I almost forgot, we need to re-nominate Batsnacks for that blooper for that D4 lynch in SMIV. OMG.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 23 2014 00:18 GMT
#5115
On December 23 2014 09:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 08:13 Xatalos wrote:
Oh, almost forgot:

[image loading]


Awwwwwwwww so cute.


That's a traditional scum claim picture... forgot where it started. Anyways it's been years, I think.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
December 23 2014 00:33 GMT
#5116
Xata why you guys killed bats? Was it to frame me from my last scum game?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 23 2014 00:37 GMT
#5117
On December 23 2014 09:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Xata why you guys killed bats? Was it to frame me from my last scum game?


He wanted to kill HF and he wasn't likely to be protected. He was also possibly Mason (he said something like "I know everything that LoneMeow thought about").

By the way, who *were* the other Mason and third Ghost?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 00:42 GMT
#5118
I figure there was no third ghost. mason was probably lian
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 00:43 GMT
#5119
lian and rust are basically the only non claimed vt so...
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
December 23 2014 00:46 GMT
#5120
sicklucker did you have me as a scum read at any point of the game?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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