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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 01:04 GMT
#1086
On December 10 2014 09:57 rsoultin wrote:
I am Rasputin. I also answer to RS, putin, rsoul, what have you.

Because this was eluded to by I forget who...the reasons for voting OWS were obvious in my interactions with OWS, but I do not expect people to actually pay that close attention (as y'all have clearly now demonstrated) so put it all in a nice neat post to see if that would generate any discussion. Which it has to some small extent.

LS is new and learning. My prods at him were to get him to post more and post on things other than just his initial list. If vets want to rely on meta, more power to you, you might actually know what you're talking about (even if I can't trust those of you I've never played with before on others I haven't played with before) however LS using meta makes no sense. That said, he probably is trying to learn from the vets. I see no reason to scumlist him at this time and agree that being fine with tube and not with LS is contradictory.

Spending pages and pages reiterating the same weak points irritates. Thus the dismissal of 27NB and HTS. 27NB has done little in her newest posts either, however...though she has given some reads so I will wait to see when her reading catches up to her posts.

Also...

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 07:02 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 10 2014 06:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 10 2014 06:49 ritoky wrote:
On December 10 2014 06:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yeah I don't really care, ritoky, sorry.


yup, cuz this is town

Is it scum, though? I /obsed this thread because I knew I wouldn't be happy with certain roles but was told it would be a low content game and not to worry about lurking.


Well if you can't keep up with the thread, can you read and give reads on individual filters that shouldn't be more than a few pages long? Really not sure who your scum reads are at all.

If you want individual names, pick some people from rsoultin, froggy, Obi, batsnacks, ritoky, LoneMeow, Tube?



Hinting I'm scummy, punk? Tell me what you really think xP


I grabbed a list of people that most people don't seem to have a strong read about.

What I think is that you should be more concerned about other things than why you name might show up on a list
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 01:06 GMT
#1088
On December 10 2014 10:00 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:53 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 10 2014 09:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 10 2014 09:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 10 2014 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tubesack, null/town?: I'm not sure how I feel about a brand new player having such elaborate reads and checking other threads. On the one hand it's towny that he's trying so hard but on the other, I don't know if he's a natural tryhard or is getting a lot of help from a scum QT. If I had to read him without paranoia, he is town just because I'd never take notes as scum and I love playing scum.


On December 09 2014 12:43 LightningStrike wrote:
I looked GB past games and he seemed to town aligned this game and Slam isn't posting stuff like he did when he was scum in the Titanic Game.


On December 09 2014 17:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yeah LS is scummy as heck


It seems like the reasoning that leads you to believe tube is probably town isn't taken into account when evaluating LS. Why does it apply in one case, but not the other?



SILENCE EVERYBODY, THIS POST IS EXTREMELY RELEVANT.


HTS, bunnies, LS, Tube/anyone else in the thread currently. Do you guys feel this is noteworthy as well?


Okay, So I like FF post about Tubesack. But Im not sure how being a brand new player is alignment indicative. So what if he is elaborate? Has he played elsewhere? etc. Idk. just a weird fucking read.


I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying. I'm not asking if FF's post about tube is valid.

I'm asking why the same exact reasoning could apply to two players, yet he draws a town read on one and a scum read on the other.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 02:49 GMT
#1126
On December 10 2014 11:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can you guys stop calling me mafia because I work during the day?

I mean really.


^ Found one Disgruntled Christmas Worker
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 04:01 GMT
#1157
Seems like Vivax has a valid point on Xatalos. In my mind I seemed to think that his posts were reasonable, but I can't really point to what made me think that aside from the size of his first post. On re-read, it's less impressive.

This also seems like it would fit under the category of stuff mafia say:
"I sure hope that Mafia didn't somehow find the Scrooge because of this though"

On December 09 2014 22:55 Xatalos wrote:
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On December 09 2014 22:51 kushm4sta wrote:
On December 09 2014 20:41 Holyflare wrote:
Kush could absolutely be mafia at this point of time

That all depends on if scrooge is mafia or not. I kinda read the OP but not close enough to understand wtf is going on. I'm red but I have no scum qt?


I really hope you're trolling. Scrooge is a town power role.


This one too. Of course he is trolling, does he really need to show concern here?

The vote on bunnies seems like it is overexplained so there might be merit here for a scum xatalos. At any rate we really shouldn't have a one sided day one lynch so this might be a good option as any.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 14:33 GMT
#1227
On December 10 2014 19:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Firstly people who are scum reading me for my scrooge comment , specifically viven and rasputin, you don't realise I never actually noticed a hole in the set up but then retracted it is just a reaction test.


I'm confused what you are saying here.

Are you saying that you had a plan to abuse the setup and then realized it wouldn't work
or
Are you saying that you asked for the claim to see how people would react and then later changed your mind and dropped it
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 14:56 GMT
#1239
On December 09 2014 22:21 Half the Sky wrote:
If he's scum, he's trying to get the other ghosts, if any, onto him for N1 to delay them getting to the real Scrooge. I'm thinking this through and that's the only other reasoning that makes sense to me.


HS earlier on, you eventually conclude that kush is likely scum based on a post from ritoky about his vote/unhelpful posts.

However, you also state the the only reasoning that makes sense for a scum kush claiming Scrooge is to attract ghosts. Do you honestly believe that's his plan?

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 15:45 GMT
#1249
On December 10 2014 08:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm going to have to look more into to get a better read on where Kelsier's mind is at.

As of now, I'd prob lynch Kelsier.


On December 10 2014 09:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Will give you some updated reads soon. It's taking longer to read than I thought.


On December 10 2014 09:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters.


On December 10 2014 09:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'll reread your filter, but I as of now, I still don't like you.

#Unvote: Ritoky
#Vote: KelsierSC


On December 10 2014 09:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The only one I currently have on my "Scum/people to look at list" is Kelsier


On December 10 2014 10:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I'm pretty muchcaught up. I have nothing really to discuss about past pages


Umm so in a 90 minute period, you mention five different times how you need to spend time reading Kelsier because he is your number on scum suspect. Now you that claim to have caught up, did you forget about him or....?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 16:09 GMT
#1253
On December 11 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 10 2014 08:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm going to have to look more into to get a better read on where Kelsier's mind is at.

As of now, I'd prob lynch Kelsier.


On December 10 2014 09:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Will give you some updated reads soon. It's taking longer to read than I thought.


On December 10 2014 09:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters.


On December 10 2014 09:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'll reread your filter, but I as of now, I still don't like you.

#Unvote: Ritoky
#Vote: KelsierSC


On December 10 2014 09:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The only one I currently have on my "Scum/people to look at list" is Kelsier


On December 10 2014 10:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I'm pretty muchcaught up. I have nothing really to discuss about past pages


Umm so in a 90 minute period, you mention five different times how you need to spend time reading Kelsier because he is your number on scum suspect. Now you that claim to have caught up, did you forget about him or....?


I don't like this post. No conclusion makes me a sad panda.

You're breaking my heart, kita.


No conclusion? I'm voting for bunnies and then pointing out that she fails to comment about her only scum read after promising multiple times.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 16:21 GMT
#1257
On December 10 2014 12:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone explain the nb votes to me like I'm dumb? I feel like I missed something but I don't know what that is. I can't remember the points against her being spectacular in the first place.


Even if you ignore the cases against her and just read her filter, what do you think?

On December 10 2014 09:04 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm also trying to understand why people are scumreading NB.

I have no idea.


Do you really care if people lynch her anyways? It doesn't seem like it.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 19:44 GMT
#1304
On December 11 2014 04:32 KelsierSC wrote:
ahh post count....I think FF is also really scummy and I want more people to comment on my read of him.


I tend to agree that FF is likely mafia.

He moves off bunnies because of claim onto ritoky. bunnies admits she wasn't claiming, yet FF doesn't seem to find her interesting anymore. He admits his current vote on ritoky was just an attempt to get a reaction from him, but that leaves him with no actual mafia suspects.

He makes that response post about templar, but I'm left wondering if he wants us to lynch templar for it or if he's just whining about how templar posts.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 19:47 GMT
#1306
On December 11 2014 04:37 Holyflare wrote:
you have no reason to town read her... claiming a role is something scum loves to do to survive as that's their main goal, she's been bandwagoned the entire day by multiple people all day and arguably has the MOST information on her flip but you're telling us not to lynch her because she doesn't give us any info on a flip and she has claimed a role???


Are we at the point where we are ready to issue her an ultimatum to claim or do we give it 1-2 more hours. I certainly don't want her showing up 5 minutes before the lynch and claiming that she is Arnold or something.

I'm not saying that we listen to her claim and it suddenly makes her town, but if she is going to go around saying that she might "claim to save herself" then I don't see the point of keeping quiet with so many votes on her with a few hours left. I'd rather digest what she has to say now.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 19:53 GMT
#1310
Not to go too far into post-flip analysis, but FF + bunnies mafia team would probably be unlikely since I don't think he would be the one that tries to start an unvote chain after pointing out the carol video.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 19:54 GMT
#1311
Also, you've got to stop referring to bunnies as 27. XD
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 19:55 GMT
#1313
On December 11 2014 04:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm either gonna sheep back onto 27 or omgus vote you(kelly) not sure which.


So you don't want to lynch templar?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 21:13 GMT
#1341
Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but why did you indicate a couple times that claiming would help you survive if you're a miller?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 21:16 GMT
#1344
On December 11 2014 04:46 Holyflare wrote:
probably pretty bad that I haven't actually read ff yet then


Do you have a few minutes now to tell us what you think? Filter isn't very large.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 21:51 GMT
#1374
I'm tempted to move over to Fecal for the sake of wagon of justice.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 22:12 GMT
#1389
On December 11 2014 07:09 batsnacks wrote:
This was Trfel when he was town:


What are you saying here?

I think it's pretty clear that he hasn't read the thread so we hope that he will give an honest attempt to catch up. The lack of large analysis posts that you quoted don't say anything if he hasn't posted at all.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 22:41 GMT
#1414
Deadline is at the annoying spot for me where I either have to stick around at work without getting paid (eww) or leave at my normal time at get home at around the exact time the cycle would end (also eww, but likely what I'll end up needing to do).

Not that it makes much difference, but I guess I'll stick with bunnies. Will re-examine fecal and a few others after flip.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 11 2014 03:34 GMT
#1488
I'll probably do a re-read and post towards the end of the cycle.

Hope you start feeling better soon Damdred.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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