• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:01
CEST 00:01
KST 07:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview3[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League4Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Pros React To: ASL S21 Finals BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Customization Drives Loyalty…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1999 users

TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 01:04 GMT
#1086
On December 10 2014 09:57 rsoultin wrote:
I am Rasputin. I also answer to RS, putin, rsoul, what have you.

Because this was eluded to by I forget who...the reasons for voting OWS were obvious in my interactions with OWS, but I do not expect people to actually pay that close attention (as y'all have clearly now demonstrated) so put it all in a nice neat post to see if that would generate any discussion. Which it has to some small extent.

LS is new and learning. My prods at him were to get him to post more and post on things other than just his initial list. If vets want to rely on meta, more power to you, you might actually know what you're talking about (even if I can't trust those of you I've never played with before on others I haven't played with before) however LS using meta makes no sense. That said, he probably is trying to learn from the vets. I see no reason to scumlist him at this time and agree that being fine with tube and not with LS is contradictory.

Spending pages and pages reiterating the same weak points irritates. Thus the dismissal of 27NB and HTS. 27NB has done little in her newest posts either, however...though she has given some reads so I will wait to see when her reading catches up to her posts.

Also...

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 07:02 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 10 2014 06:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 10 2014 06:49 ritoky wrote:
On December 10 2014 06:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yeah I don't really care, ritoky, sorry.


yup, cuz this is town

Is it scum, though? I /obsed this thread because I knew I wouldn't be happy with certain roles but was told it would be a low content game and not to worry about lurking.


Well if you can't keep up with the thread, can you read and give reads on individual filters that shouldn't be more than a few pages long? Really not sure who your scum reads are at all.

If you want individual names, pick some people from rsoultin, froggy, Obi, batsnacks, ritoky, LoneMeow, Tube?



Hinting I'm scummy, punk? Tell me what you really think xP


I grabbed a list of people that most people don't seem to have a strong read about.

What I think is that you should be more concerned about other things than why you name might show up on a list
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 01:06 GMT
#1088
On December 10 2014 10:00 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:53 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 10 2014 09:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 10 2014 09:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 10 2014 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tubesack, null/town?: I'm not sure how I feel about a brand new player having such elaborate reads and checking other threads. On the one hand it's towny that he's trying so hard but on the other, I don't know if he's a natural tryhard or is getting a lot of help from a scum QT. If I had to read him without paranoia, he is town just because I'd never take notes as scum and I love playing scum.


On December 09 2014 12:43 LightningStrike wrote:
I looked GB past games and he seemed to town aligned this game and Slam isn't posting stuff like he did when he was scum in the Titanic Game.


On December 09 2014 17:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yeah LS is scummy as heck


It seems like the reasoning that leads you to believe tube is probably town isn't taken into account when evaluating LS. Why does it apply in one case, but not the other?



SILENCE EVERYBODY, THIS POST IS EXTREMELY RELEVANT.


HTS, bunnies, LS, Tube/anyone else in the thread currently. Do you guys feel this is noteworthy as well?


Okay, So I like FF post about Tubesack. But Im not sure how being a brand new player is alignment indicative. So what if he is elaborate? Has he played elsewhere? etc. Idk. just a weird fucking read.


I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying. I'm not asking if FF's post about tube is valid.

I'm asking why the same exact reasoning could apply to two players, yet he draws a town read on one and a scum read on the other.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 02:49 GMT
#1126
On December 10 2014 11:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can you guys stop calling me mafia because I work during the day?

I mean really.


^ Found one Disgruntled Christmas Worker
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 04:01 GMT
#1157
Seems like Vivax has a valid point on Xatalos. In my mind I seemed to think that his posts were reasonable, but I can't really point to what made me think that aside from the size of his first post. On re-read, it's less impressive.

This also seems like it would fit under the category of stuff mafia say:
"I sure hope that Mafia didn't somehow find the Scrooge because of this though"

On December 09 2014 22:55 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:51 kushm4sta wrote:
On December 09 2014 20:41 Holyflare wrote:
Kush could absolutely be mafia at this point of time

That all depends on if scrooge is mafia or not. I kinda read the OP but not close enough to understand wtf is going on. I'm red but I have no scum qt?


I really hope you're trolling. Scrooge is a town power role.


This one too. Of course he is trolling, does he really need to show concern here?

The vote on bunnies seems like it is overexplained so there might be merit here for a scum xatalos. At any rate we really shouldn't have a one sided day one lynch so this might be a good option as any.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 14:33 GMT
#1227
On December 10 2014 19:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Firstly people who are scum reading me for my scrooge comment , specifically viven and rasputin, you don't realise I never actually noticed a hole in the set up but then retracted it is just a reaction test.


I'm confused what you are saying here.

Are you saying that you had a plan to abuse the setup and then realized it wouldn't work
or
Are you saying that you asked for the claim to see how people would react and then later changed your mind and dropped it
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 14:56 GMT
#1239
On December 09 2014 22:21 Half the Sky wrote:
If he's scum, he's trying to get the other ghosts, if any, onto him for N1 to delay them getting to the real Scrooge. I'm thinking this through and that's the only other reasoning that makes sense to me.


HS earlier on, you eventually conclude that kush is likely scum based on a post from ritoky about his vote/unhelpful posts.

However, you also state the the only reasoning that makes sense for a scum kush claiming Scrooge is to attract ghosts. Do you honestly believe that's his plan?

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 15:45 GMT
#1249
On December 10 2014 08:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm going to have to look more into to get a better read on where Kelsier's mind is at.

As of now, I'd prob lynch Kelsier.


On December 10 2014 09:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Will give you some updated reads soon. It's taking longer to read than I thought.


On December 10 2014 09:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters.


On December 10 2014 09:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'll reread your filter, but I as of now, I still don't like you.

#Unvote: Ritoky
#Vote: KelsierSC


On December 10 2014 09:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The only one I currently have on my "Scum/people to look at list" is Kelsier


On December 10 2014 10:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I'm pretty muchcaught up. I have nothing really to discuss about past pages


Umm so in a 90 minute period, you mention five different times how you need to spend time reading Kelsier because he is your number on scum suspect. Now you that claim to have caught up, did you forget about him or....?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 16:09 GMT
#1253
On December 11 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 10 2014 08:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm going to have to look more into to get a better read on where Kelsier's mind is at.

As of now, I'd prob lynch Kelsier.


On December 10 2014 09:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Will give you some updated reads soon. It's taking longer to read than I thought.


On December 10 2014 09:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters.


On December 10 2014 09:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'll reread your filter, but I as of now, I still don't like you.

#Unvote: Ritoky
#Vote: KelsierSC


On December 10 2014 09:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The only one I currently have on my "Scum/people to look at list" is Kelsier


On December 10 2014 10:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I'm pretty muchcaught up. I have nothing really to discuss about past pages


Umm so in a 90 minute period, you mention five different times how you need to spend time reading Kelsier because he is your number on scum suspect. Now you that claim to have caught up, did you forget about him or....?


I don't like this post. No conclusion makes me a sad panda.

You're breaking my heart, kita.


No conclusion? I'm voting for bunnies and then pointing out that she fails to comment about her only scum read after promising multiple times.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 16:21 GMT
#1257
On December 10 2014 12:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone explain the nb votes to me like I'm dumb? I feel like I missed something but I don't know what that is. I can't remember the points against her being spectacular in the first place.


Even if you ignore the cases against her and just read her filter, what do you think?

On December 10 2014 09:04 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm also trying to understand why people are scumreading NB.

I have no idea.


Do you really care if people lynch her anyways? It doesn't seem like it.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 19:44 GMT
#1304
On December 11 2014 04:32 KelsierSC wrote:
ahh post count....I think FF is also really scummy and I want more people to comment on my read of him.


I tend to agree that FF is likely mafia.

He moves off bunnies because of claim onto ritoky. bunnies admits she wasn't claiming, yet FF doesn't seem to find her interesting anymore. He admits his current vote on ritoky was just an attempt to get a reaction from him, but that leaves him with no actual mafia suspects.

He makes that response post about templar, but I'm left wondering if he wants us to lynch templar for it or if he's just whining about how templar posts.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 19:47 GMT
#1306
On December 11 2014 04:37 Holyflare wrote:
you have no reason to town read her... claiming a role is something scum loves to do to survive as that's their main goal, she's been bandwagoned the entire day by multiple people all day and arguably has the MOST information on her flip but you're telling us not to lynch her because she doesn't give us any info on a flip and she has claimed a role???


Are we at the point where we are ready to issue her an ultimatum to claim or do we give it 1-2 more hours. I certainly don't want her showing up 5 minutes before the lynch and claiming that she is Arnold or something.

I'm not saying that we listen to her claim and it suddenly makes her town, but if she is going to go around saying that she might "claim to save herself" then I don't see the point of keeping quiet with so many votes on her with a few hours left. I'd rather digest what she has to say now.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 19:53 GMT
#1310
Not to go too far into post-flip analysis, but FF + bunnies mafia team would probably be unlikely since I don't think he would be the one that tries to start an unvote chain after pointing out the carol video.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 19:54 GMT
#1311
Also, you've got to stop referring to bunnies as 27. XD
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 19:55 GMT
#1313
On December 11 2014 04:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm either gonna sheep back onto 27 or omgus vote you(kelly) not sure which.


So you don't want to lynch templar?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 21:13 GMT
#1341
Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but why did you indicate a couple times that claiming would help you survive if you're a miller?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 21:16 GMT
#1344
On December 11 2014 04:46 Holyflare wrote:
probably pretty bad that I haven't actually read ff yet then


Do you have a few minutes now to tell us what you think? Filter isn't very large.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 21:51 GMT
#1374
I'm tempted to move over to Fecal for the sake of wagon of justice.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 22:12 GMT
#1389
On December 11 2014 07:09 batsnacks wrote:
This was Trfel when he was town:


What are you saying here?

I think it's pretty clear that he hasn't read the thread so we hope that he will give an honest attempt to catch up. The lack of large analysis posts that you quoted don't say anything if he hasn't posted at all.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 22:41 GMT
#1414
Deadline is at the annoying spot for me where I either have to stick around at work without getting paid (eww) or leave at my normal time at get home at around the exact time the cycle would end (also eww, but likely what I'll end up needing to do).

Not that it makes much difference, but I guess I'll stick with bunnies. Will re-examine fecal and a few others after flip.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 11 2014 03:34 GMT
#1488
I'll probably do a re-read and post towards the end of the cycle.

Hope you start feeling better soon Damdred.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 59m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 874
UpATreeSC 160
ProTech97
JuggernautJason45
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm1
League of Legends
Doublelift3044
JimRising 465
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_65
Super Smash Bros
PPMD37
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu419
Other Games
summit1g10975
Grubby4139
tarik_tv3602
Liquid`RaSZi1330
FrodaN1174
hungrybox513
C9.Mang0179
uThermal173
ViBE87
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL369
Other Games
BasetradeTV285
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta13
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2927
Other Games
• imaqtpie1555
• Scarra947
• WagamamaTV189
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 59m
GSL
11h 29m
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
16h 59m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
GSL
1d 11h
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 13h
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
OSC
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
3 days
IPSL
3 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.