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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 09 2014 15:17 GMT
#796
Vivax why is your view of the game so narrow?

Other reads, plx.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 09 2014 15:19 GMT
#798
If I had a gun, I'd shoot Holyflare right now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 09 2014 15:20 GMT
#802
On December 10 2014 00:20 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 10 2014 00:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If I had a gun, I'd shoot Holyflare right now.


He's most likely town...


Why?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 09 2014 15:21 GMT
#804
On December 10 2014 00:20 LightningStrike wrote:
OWS can you tell us your reads and thoughts of the game so far?


I will when I have time. I've got work in like 10 minutes and I'm just checking in to see what's going on.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 02:35 GMT
#1123
Can you guys stop calling me mafia because I work during the day?

I mean really.

(Also, I'm catching up now.)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 02:42 GMT
#1125
Working on them now. Tempted to call you town for holding me accountable for posting them. Give it some time because I'm going to post on a bunch of people I find important/interesting.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 02:52 GMT
#1128
On December 10 2014 11:49 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 10 2014 11:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can you guys stop calling me mafia because I work during the day?

I mean really.


^ Found one Disgruntled Christmas Worker


lol

Also inclined to townread this stud because he made me giggle.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 03:43 GMT
#1152
So I'm refreshing the thread as I go and I feel like posting a giant list isn't going to cut it since I find reasons to change my reads almost every time I do.

Vivax looks infinitely better since I came back. He can be town. I like the fact that he took much more definitive stances since earlier on, which were part of my issue with him.

Don't like how the post restriction is apparently holding him back from playing his regular game, but I know that's the case for more than a few people.

Just a couple of other names I'm going to throw down for the moment:

Holyflare: Town lean. I'm rescinding my earlier read since a bunch of people are taking issue with me not doing anything, which means it's less "Hf is being scummy" and more "Obi is a lazy dickbutt." I don't like how he's super upset with me, especially since he seemed okay at the end of Russia Today and somehow went into full on policy lynch mode. I know he can do that with his scumteam if they piss him off, so...That's normal...I guess...

Kitaman: Adorable. Also, townie. I remember him bringing up a rather good point about FF, which is good because I feel like a lot of the points brought up by other players are kind of meh right now. I misread him once before, and I'd rather give him some space to see how he plays this game out since I know he's capable of being incredibly useful as town.

Rsoultin: Town. I really liked a bunch of his earlier posts. The end.

I'll give reads on other players as I go.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 03:49 GMT
#1154
Can someone explain the nb votes to me like I'm dumb? I feel like I missed something but I don't know what that is. I can't remember the points against her being spectacular in the first place.

Also kind of weirded out by the fact that Koshi apparently knows my meta now. His read on me is generally inaccurate/based on me posting big meaty posts, so having him come out and say "OWS is useless and could be scum" when he loves to give me tons of leeway is strange.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 04:49 GMT
#1164
Vivax is town.

Xatalos is scum.

Let's go.

##vote xatalos
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 05:50 GMT
#1176
On December 10 2014 14:49 rsoultin wrote:
Heh, I don't have to agree with anyone to prove I'm town, and you in particular do not intimidate me, Vivax. I think you made a good catch here. If I didn't I wouldn't have taken the time to try to verify it, even if I did make a mistake in doing so. I think this is a better case than OWS.

I still want to hear what people think of Glowingbear. Especially those who have played with him before. Is he always this...absent when he plays?

##unvote
##vote Xatalos


This is a much better response.

@FF: Xatalos made up reasons to hop on the NB wagon.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 14:18 GMT
#1223
Xat just called me scum because I like sheeping cases I think are good.

My vote is fine.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 14:21 GMT
#1224
On December 10 2014 23:17 KelsierSC wrote:
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On December 10 2014 23:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 10 2014 23:06 KelsierSC wrote:
Alright don't know who is in the thread so just going to spout some stuff.

So the first read I had of NB was that she didn't contradict herself and then hf explained how and afterwards I was like yeh you're right and I read hf as town for that.

So then NB comes back to the thread and pings me out for having soft reads or something, again like I just don't agree but I suppose if you have a different playstyle then yeh you can see that as scummy I guess.

She then gives her read on viv which is really not explained that well at all, she linked to a post and apparently he made "substantial" posts.

She also made the post "you need to learn how to read me, you are stupid" to somebody. Which I really didn't like because it is just mafia faking indignation. How can she possibly think she projected town.

So yeh I would happily vote that, if it wasn't for tubesock voting her which is really giving me pause but I will talk about that later.

So then viv shows up and he just kind of bw onto nb by calling me scum but he can't just sheep the read right, he has to make up some reasons, so apparently my scrooge thing was scummy because i am trying to get scrooge to claim and not making a play. So many things wrong with that, it was a specific play and the the retraction was immediate, No one in their right mind would actually claim there. I then called ff scum as a result and followed up, again viv says I didn't. he also calls me scum because I don't like people giving slam an immediate town read. Again the case is really fucking weak and it just looks like he has is trying to find a reason to call me scum rather than actually do it. His case on Xat is weak, it is because he town reads me. I think I have played pretty town and because Xat actually analysed my play and read the thread he is scum. yeh I just think these are bad reads so viv could be scum.

So then after this we get a few people who bw onto the vote, OWS, who just posts shit anyway , FF who I think is scummy, then rsoult...who might just be misguided.

So then tubesock, also votes on xat despite not understanding the wagon, but then unvotes again to go back on nb, even though nb pushes on me who he thinks is bad for town.
His main reason I am bad for town...because I talked to a woman and because apparently my reads aren't substantial. so this is a sheep of the nb reason (a terrible reason) , so you just sheep the read of your top mafia,
So then I have to evaluate what I think of tubesock because his play is so non sensical. So then I think well maybe NB could be town and tube/viv are the mafia.

Like I look at the votes on nb and a lot of my town aare voting there, but then HTS and tube vote...

I think my scum lynch would be LS, FF, viv and tube..pretty ok with that




can you edit this down to like 4 lines? Cause it seems like a whole lotta fluff shit and thats bad.



there is no fluff it is the explanation for my reads. but in 4 lines
NB has done scummy things, her case on me is bad and her town read on viv isn't explained at all. a lot of my town vote on her but then a few people I don't like also vote on her.
viv has made a very weak case on me that looks like he just wants to call me scum but can't find good reasons. I didn't like his case on Xat and the people who bw that vote make me like the case even less.
Tube's play is completely non-sensical and he sheeps the read of his top scum. maybe he is mafia and nb is town.

I think my scum lynch would be LS, FF, viv and tube..pretty ok with that


Where did this happen?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 16:05 GMT
#1251
On December 11 2014 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 10 2014 08:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm going to have to look more into to get a better read on where Kelsier's mind is at.

As of now, I'd prob lynch Kelsier.


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On December 10 2014 09:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Will give you some updated reads soon. It's taking longer to read than I thought.


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On December 10 2014 09:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters.


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On December 10 2014 09:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'll reread your filter, but I as of now, I still don't like you.

#Unvote: Ritoky
#Vote: KelsierSC


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On December 10 2014 09:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The only one I currently have on my "Scum/people to look at list" is Kelsier


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On December 10 2014 10:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I'm pretty muchcaught up. I have nothing really to discuss about past pages


Umm so in a 90 minute period, you mention five different times how you need to spend time reading Kelsier because he is your number on scum suspect. Now you that claim to have caught up, did you forget about him or....?


I don't like this post. No conclusion makes me a sad panda.

You're breaking my heart, kita.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 16:10 GMT
#1254
On December 11 2014 01:09 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 11 2014 01:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 11 2014 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 10 2014 08:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm going to have to look more into to get a better read on where Kelsier's mind is at.

As of now, I'd prob lynch Kelsier.


On December 10 2014 09:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Will give you some updated reads soon. It's taking longer to read than I thought.


On December 10 2014 09:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters.


On December 10 2014 09:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'll reread your filter, but I as of now, I still don't like you.

#Unvote: Ritoky
#Vote: KelsierSC


On December 10 2014 09:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The only one I currently have on my "Scum/people to look at list" is Kelsier


On December 10 2014 10:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, So I'm pretty muchcaught up. I have nothing really to discuss about past pages


Umm so in a 90 minute period, you mention five different times how you need to spend time reading Kelsier because he is your number on scum suspect. Now you that claim to have caught up, did you forget about him or....?


I don't like this post. No conclusion makes me a sad panda.

You're breaking my heart, kita.


No conclusion? I'm voting for bunnies and then pointing out that she fails to comment about her only scum read after promising multiple times.


Maybe.

Idk.

I might just be getting paranoid.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 18:32 GMT
#1281
I don't know how you guys expect to get anything done if you don't sheep.

That's how you make lynches happen.

@kita: I don't really feel particularly strongly about bunnies either way. I think Koshi really hit a nail on the head when he asked if we could produce a towncase on her, and I really don't feel like I can make one. I don't feel like any of the arguments levied against her make her mafia and I like where my vote is right now.

But if nb dies...Meh. That's fine I guess.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 19:04 GMT
#1284
I've played with Xatalos once.

I have never seen him call people scum for sheeping.

It is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Rsoultin is open to supporting him and Xat is still calling him suspicious for doing so because "he doesn't bring anything new to the table." Ridiculous. Like a politician keeping his options open.

Is he always like this or is it just when he's scum?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 19:05 GMT
#1285
Actually, hold up, I misread that. My bad.

Hrm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 19:10 GMT
#1287
Yeah, but you're always like that so who cares.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 10 2014 20:39 GMT
#1323
On December 11 2014 05:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also kelsier is about 80% mafia


Why?
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