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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 00:12 GMT
#378
On December 09 2014 09:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm liking holyflare now, i didn't like his post about how he wasn't going to post, seemed like a good excuse to lurk. But he has backed it up with actual pressure.his pressure on nb is actually strong and the explanation is good. It also feels like town hf to me.





Do you know how I play as mafia? This seems pretty baseless if you do and even more so if you don't.


i saw you play town and this feels like town, I'm happy with the read for d1
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 00:30 GMT
#391
So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.

this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 00:34 GMT
#401
Bats is town
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 00:37 GMT
#407
GB so edgy.

he definitely doesn't study for the test he is too bored and too cool
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 00:40 GMT
#417
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 00:44 GMT
#422
That post should say @dam, it is my reasons for calling bs town
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 00:49 GMT
#427
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 00:51 GMT
#430
Hf, bats have you played with ff much? What is his d1 like normally?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 00:54 GMT
#434
I didn't like entry where she said "nb I'm also town"i don't see why she knew nb was town when at that poiny she hadn't, apparently, read the thread. Then her scum list doesn't add up. She makes the same points as nb but then nb is scum
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:00 GMT
#446
On December 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so


If he was thinking along these lines then why did he neglect to mention anyone else that was following the same train of thought?? Why is it scummy to agree with someone but then also scum read them? (hint: its not) why is he even scum reading bunnies in the first place because from what we've said it's because she was taking weird contradictory stances on a player that looked scummy which an overwhelming amount of time makes that player being defended actually town. Not to mention we are scum reading bunnies for CHANGING her stance in the list post to accomodate what everyone had been saying and to "blend" in.

You have strange reads kelsier, not liking the lack of thought at all.

Would lynch list: bunnies, kelsier



who else had the same train of thought?

my d1 read if town as bats isn't super detailed? Wow shocker.

I'm happy adding bats to my town circle d1
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:03 GMT
#449
On December 09 2014 09:57 The_Templar wrote:
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On December 09 2014 09:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I didn't like entry where she said "nb I'm also town"i don't see why she knew nb was town when at that poiny she hadn't, apparently, read the thread. Then her scum list doesn't add up. She makes the same points as nb but then nb is scum

The also town thing was already discussed. Which points does she make similarly to NB?


discussed but doesn't mean I like the explanation
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:04 GMT
#451
On December 09 2014 10:01 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 10:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so


If he was thinking along these lines then why did he neglect to mention anyone else that was following the same train of thought?? Why is it scummy to agree with someone but then also scum read them? (hint: its not) why is he even scum reading bunnies in the first place because from what we've said it's because she was taking weird contradictory stances on a player that looked scummy which an overwhelming amount of time makes that player being defended actually town. Not to mention we are scum reading bunnies for CHANGING her stance in the list post to accomodate what everyone had been saying and to "blend" in.

You have strange reads kelsier, not liking the lack of thought at all.

Would lynch list: bunnies, kelsier



who else had the same train of thought?

my d1 read if town as bats isn't super detailed? Wow shocker.

I'm happy adding bats to my town circle d1


Becaaaaauuuse? He posted a list and said nope nope nope?


already gave my reasons go read
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:09 GMT
#457
On December 09 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax had the same train of thought. Like even more elaborated. He wasn't mentioned at all. I'm pretty sure I elaborated I didnt care about him over nb either but im not mentioned. Although that might have been later (he has made no return which is annoying), i think damd said something too maybe.

The point is he doesnt acknowledge anything like this at all and just tries to pass off something that isnt scummy as scummy and then you town read him for it which doesn't make sense at all. You are throwing out a lot of easy reads based on little information and it doesn't look good for you my friend.


i gave you and bats as town right

my ff read isn't an easy read at all.

so I'm not throwing out easy reads at all. Anyway I explained bats did the analysis on hts and it felt towny to me. Plus his manner feels like the other town games bats has played
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:11 GMT
#459
On December 09 2014 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 10:04 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 10:01 rsoultin wrote:
On December 09 2014 10:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so


If he was thinking along these lines then why did he neglect to mention anyone else that was following the same train of thought?? Why is it scummy to agree with someone but then also scum read them? (hint: its not) why is he even scum reading bunnies in the first place because from what we've said it's because she was taking weird contradictory stances on a player that looked scummy which an overwhelming amount of time makes that player being defended actually town. Not to mention we are scum reading bunnies for CHANGING her stance in the list post to accomodate what everyone had been saying and to "blend" in.

You have strange reads kelsier, not liking the lack of thought at all.

Would lynch list: bunnies, kelsier



who else had the same train of thought?

my d1 read if town as bats isn't super detailed? Wow shocker.

I'm happy adding bats to my town circle d1


Becaaaaauuuse? He posted a list and said nope nope nope?


already gave my reasons go read


Didn't like your reasons. Maybe you have some more. Or different ones. Or ones that make sense. Is there a return policy at this store?


I'm happy with my reasons i think my read is pretty solid for d1
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:14 GMT
#463
Who has slam as semi/tentative/half chub town.

nb, dam... Who else
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:20 GMT
#473
On December 09 2014 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 10:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax had the same train of thought. Like even more elaborated. He wasn't mentioned at all. I'm pretty sure I elaborated I didnt care about him over nb either but im not mentioned. Although that might have been later (he has made no return which is annoying), i think damd said something too maybe.

The point is he doesnt acknowledge anything like this at all and just tries to pass off something that isnt scummy as scummy and then you town read him for it which doesn't make sense at all. You are throwing out a lot of easy reads based on little information and it doesn't look good for you my friend.


i gave you and bats as town right

my ff read isn't an easy read at all.

so I'm not throwing out easy reads at all. Anyway I explained bats did the analysis on hts and it felt towny to me. Plus his manner feels like the other town games bats has played


You gave me a town read based on meta that is incomplete and didn't really factor in any game info other than "pressuring" which when you couple with my actual meta would mean nothing at all. Yet, when I say otherwise you somehow know it's still "town" Holyflare pressure rather than mafia.

Your bats read as I explained to anyone looking critically does not make any sense at all but he's still a d1 town list. I can see you making an analysis point on him but what about the stuff I just explained? Why was he still a town read after I pointed out he was picking and choosing who scum were based on absolutely nothing (he even just admitted it)!


well no i dont have perfect information on you. But if your play feels like it did when you are town, and you do towny actions then I'm happy,d1 to add you to my town circle. That us what i did with you and bats.
yes bats didn't analyze vixen, but he did anslyse hts and i agreed with it, it reminded me of town bats.

i generally. Make a large town circle d1, my ff read was using specific information about his play d1
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:23 GMT
#477
I dont see how anyone can have slam as anything but nul d1 his play is so weird in general.

like he isn't a lynch but you can't take what he says seriously.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:28 GMT
#483
On December 09 2014 10:25 sicklucker wrote:
My naught list - FF hes very mean

My nice list! - Kelsier, dandred , gb


can you explain why gb is nice please
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:34 GMT
#490
On December 09 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 10:20 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 10:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax had the same train of thought. Like even more elaborated. He wasn't mentioned at all. I'm pretty sure I elaborated I didnt care about him over nb either but im not mentioned. Although that might have been later (he has made no return which is annoying), i think damd said something too maybe.

The point is he doesnt acknowledge anything like this at all and just tries to pass off something that isnt scummy as scummy and then you town read him for it which doesn't make sense at all. You are throwing out a lot of easy reads based on little information and it doesn't look good for you my friend.


i gave you and bats as town right

my ff read isn't an easy read at all.

so I'm not throwing out easy reads at all. Anyway I explained bats did the analysis on hts and it felt towny to me. Plus his manner feels like the other town games bats has played


You gave me a town read based on meta that is incomplete and didn't really factor in any game info other than "pressuring" which when you couple with my actual meta would mean nothing at all. Yet, when I say otherwise you somehow know it's still "town" Holyflare pressure rather than mafia.

Your bats read as I explained to anyone looking critically does not make any sense at all but he's still a d1 town list. I can see you making an analysis point on him but what about the stuff I just explained? Why was he still a town read after I pointed out he was picking and choosing who scum were based on absolutely nothing (he even just admitted it)!


well no i dont have perfect information on you. But if your play feels like it did when you are town, and you do towny actions then I'm happy,d1 to add you to my town circle. That us what i did with you and bats.
yes bats didn't analyze vixen, but he did anslyse hts and i agreed with it, it reminded me of town bats.

i generally. Make a large town circle d1, my ff read was using specific information about his play d1



Can you explain why you agree with his hts conclusion when I just explained how wrong it was?


because they both said the original post was null, then hts called nb scummy, that is how i analysed it
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:37 GMT
#493
On December 09 2014 10:33 Holyflare wrote:
You should also stop wasting your time trying to read slam and just try and make him interact with you about this game instead. He can actually play mafia and says insightful things.


I'm not reading slam. But the free town passes he is getting are good info.

especially people who call him semi town.. Wtf is that
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