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On December 15 2014 16:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 16:08 sicklucker wrote:On December 15 2014 16:03 Holyflare wrote:On December 15 2014 16:01 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so let me explain something. Presents are sent during the day and opened at night, hes claiming to have gotten the present yesterday and not have opened it last night and sent it to someone today. This is a complete lie because even if he dies at night the present is lost so the only logical town thing to do IS TO OPEN IT. Like he just dug his own grave its over Or Give it to someone so it's not completely lost?? How many brain cells are you missing there buddy Regardless of the sequence of events you had the present in your possession for one night. Your vt why did you not open it? Why did you send it to someone else that could be mafia, or could die and we lose the ability. Its so bad of a vt play, your not this bad your mafia. I had the present on n1 and I didn't want to die??? Like i can't even understand you here you're being intentionally dumb. I gave it to someone that I thought might actually be town and wouldn't be shot. I was clearly going to die one way or another and it would be a massive waste. You're telling me I should have kept it and opened it n2 and also should hope to survive till day 4 when everyone in this game basically wants to lynch me today???
Ok if it was night 1 (feel like your storys changing) That means someone should have checks today. So whoever you sent the present to should have checks and can verify your story. who did you send it too? Let me double check before you expose the person but I think they should have the checks already
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On December 15 2014 16:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 16:13 sicklucker wrote:
So holyflares claiming vt and that he passed the present on. If this is true its about as bad as kush's play holyflares not that bad. Why would he risk sending it to mafia, and why would he risk an extra day of the present holder being killed by mafia and losing the present forever for team town. The answer is because hes mafia. Like this is so open and shut lets go boys.
We know the kill present is probably out of play. A) I'm not terrible at reading town people B) you're saying i should have used it even though I am the highest likelihood person of dying but i shouldn't send it to someone i think may have been town because they COULD die??
IF YOU DIE IN THE NIGHT YOU DIE WITH THE PRESENT , so a vt would open it regardless. You either made a donkey play or are lieing. With that being said if you are town only a town would send a town a present, so if we can confirm that person as town we confirm two towns so please dont role over and die.....
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Na your horrible for not doing it imo but their is a chance you didnt and we can confirm you tormorow so I wont vote you. Im back to voting froggy ff is probably green checked plz dont kill him.
If holy is town the mafia team has to be something like this
ksc
oats
templar
hts/ lian
froggy, with a few possible unconfirmed.
If we can confirm holy or anyone else tomorrow I have auto so I dont want to kill him.
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Ya "they" could be im not gonna ignore it but I dont think mafia hard aligns like that. Everything about their present actions is so bad at mafia tho I dont see why you cant see that. Mafia just doesint say they have presents very often which is why im considering a world were neither are.
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On December 15 2014 16:53 liancourt wrote:
There is absolutely no progression in discussion with you being alive.
I'm sorry but you really need to die and flip.
Him dying really doesint help me? How does it help you? Just because he dies town wont mean gb an ritoky are for sure scum and I already know who his mafia team mates would be. mostly lurkers...
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*rutin
Brass manager didnt kill anyone night 1 because no one claimed that specific role. It would seem they have a Mass Murderer as well with a bullet left.
Veg likely shot kush and wasted his bullet, the confirmed veg was asking are veg to shoot him...
Its not 100% that dandre died but its so likely that you have to go into this thinking that. Mafia wont go killing claimed vt's night 1 they role hunt.
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Why cant we kill froggy/oats? They are like so mafia its not even funny we can still learn alot if hf flips town and steamroll this game
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On December 15 2014 17:11 Tubesock wrote:I'd like to ask a question. Given my tinfoil if you look at this: Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
The End of Counts
KelsierSC (8): Alakaslam, liancourt, Tubesock, Tubesock, rsoultin, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, Alakaslam, Trfel, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, Half the Sky, rsoultin, ritoky, Xatalos, ObiwanShinobi
liancourt (0): GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): Tubesock, rsoultin, Holyflare
Tubesock (2): sicklucker, The_Templar, Fecalfeast, froggynoddy, Xatalos, Half the Sky,LightningStrike
ritoky (0): Holyflare, rsoultin, Lightning Strike, Half the Sky
froggynoddy (0): Oatsmaster
Half the Sky (0): batsnacks
Holyflare (7): GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, batsnacks, Tubesock, Alakaslam, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, The_Templar, sicklucker, Vivax, Fecalfeast, Trfel
Fecalfeast (2): Alakaslam, Vivax, Holyflare, KelsierSC, Vivax, Xatalos, Half the Sky, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Tubesock
Oatsmaster (0): Vivax
Vivax (1): Oatsmaster
sicklucker (0): Tubesock
Trfel (1): rsoultin
KelsierSC was lynched!
Is it a pretty smart play to leave 2 mafia's on me, and then jump to KelsierSC enough to keep him dying and insuring Holyflare lives? This also gives some town cred to 2 other mafias, they can jump off Holyflare too if they really had to.
Ls is confirmed town. Froggy is an afk lurker as either alignment waste of time.
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Gb has been totally open about the possibility of hf being town. He doesint want to vote him today and didnt want you shot if I recall. I feel like its the other way around your not considering that your both town. If you were more involved in this game it would be easier for me to be on your side.
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On December 16 2014 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think the Mass Murderer is out of bullets because he will be given only 2 bullets to try to kill people and since there is no refund in bullets if I recalled reading the role description it's only going to be 1 death per night now so we got some time to figure out who is scum but we still under pressure though to get out some scum members to make connections on the remaining scum members thus we win the game as town.
Na he has one bullet left which means hes condifent hes not going to day. Your just repeating stuff stay away from this stuff ;p
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On December 16 2014 07:03 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote:
I also sent my present out yesterday. Happy birthday. My birthday is December 15th. HF saw my icon change, I hope others did too. Just for the record, I will never open a present, I will pass it on. Should I die in the night, it will not be due to a death present. There wasn't much reason to post for me as the wagon was on Holyflare. It needs to go back there or to one of my other suspects. In case you forgot: Holyflare
Sicklucker
KelsierSC
The_Templar
Froggynoddy
LightningstrikeMy reasoning hasn't changed. If anything my thoughts have been reinforced.
Remember that time I was begging people to hammer holy over ksc minutes 5 before deadline? Like your team is so bad were never together and LS IS TOWN MAN
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On December 16 2014 07:19 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:On December 16 2014 07:03 Tubesock wrote:On December 15 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote:
I also sent my present out yesterday. Happy birthday. My birthday is December 15th. HF saw my icon change, I hope others did too. Just for the record, I will never open a present, I will pass it on. Should I die in the night, it will not be due to a death present. There wasn't much reason to post for me as the wagon was on Holyflare. It needs to go back there or to one of my other suspects. In case you forgot: Holyflare
Sicklucker
KelsierSC
The_Templar
Froggynoddy
LightningstrikeMy reasoning hasn't changed. If anything my thoughts have been reinforced. You simply don't claim you got a present until after you use it... OR mafia claims it for me as I'd be dead from a mafia night kill. Page 160 Sicklucker and Holyflare and talking about Presents making it look like a fight. Holyflare acts frustrated because no one is listening to him and he's the biggest wagon blah blah then randomly says (at the top of page 161) "I sent a present yesterday. Happy birthday." It's a nothing comment, until after the next night. Someone will mention that they saw my icon change to the happy birthday one, then holyflare can confirm, then you guys can argue about if I opened the present and killed myself. So, I am going to do my best to disrupt this play. I am going to be perfectly clear and reemphasize that under no condition will I be acknowledging receipt of a present, and I'm also saying under no circumstances will I be opening one. They can not cast doubt by claiming I must have been killed with the death present. If my 6 are right (OMG SCUMSLIP???) then think about if this is a good play or not. And look at who is involved. Oh, all of them except Templar who is lightly being bussed by Holyflare. Hmmm.
ROFL never listen to a thing this guy says for the rest of the game.
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On December 16 2014 07:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Back from dinner.
Just checked the rules, nothing in the OP about RB notifications. BH's student mafia rules do say you are notified of getting RBed, but this isn't a BH game.
You are not notified you are roleblocked it says it somewhere. But it also says you can often amuse you were but it doesint say anything about a pm so we might have a slip gotta look into this.
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If rstoulin is vet he should probably claim before we kill this man.
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On December 16 2014 08:40 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 08:29 The_Templar wrote:On December 16 2014 08:27 LightningStrike wrote:On December 16 2014 08:25 The_Templar wrote:
Wait wait wait, so Tubesock is saying that Holyflare, who is town, is giving Tubesock, who is mafia, a present? Fixed based on the majority thinking of the situation. I didn't word that very well- I'm seeing it from his perspective here. According to him, Holyflare is mafia who game town a present, which makes very little sense... I am saying Mafia Holyflare is setting up an excuse to night kill a town by saying it was the death present. He isn't sending any gift. Gifts can not be verified or confirmed. It's simply smoke and mirrors.
Like no hes not. No one would even believe that. Your the only one who wont admit besides overwhelming evidence that I had the death present.
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Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
This suggests that hes never notified about a miskill he just has to deduce it (ie nothing happened so he would assume hes roleblock) Looks like hes mafia.
##vote ritoky
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Hf being mass murderer makes sense. Its the only mafia motivation to claim a present so late because if that present helps town we can esentially conform him. So Basically it buys him a day. That being said it totally bought him a day lets not lynch holy its just risking 1kp for a confirmed town even trade.
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Actually since its an even trade we can totally lynch him now mathematically. idc
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So both these guys claim to have wasted their presents and the only one we have killed poor little dandred this is so frustrating if there town. Like why does mafia even claim it. It makes some sense for holy to buy him a day but it just makes no sense for ritoky I hate this we might be lynching a town.
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Actually wait it makes sense if gb is town which I think is still probably true.
The only way a mafia would mention they have a present is if a town sent it to them and they know they will be under suspicion if they dont use it.
So ok gb town ritoky mafia makes sense lets do this.
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