TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 14

On December 15 2014 13:07 ritoky wrote:


of what?

i was notified that my attempt to kill failed. i assumed it was due to RB, because i sincerely doubt any1 would protect who i tried to shoot. it did not say specifically RB tho

On December 15 2014 13:16 rsoultin wrote:


Eh, Xatalos. For awhile I thought he'd be a good person to listen to/sheep. What I mean by that is people have town reads, yes, but not all your town reads are going to be players you actually agree with. Xatalos is logical and appeals to my need for things to make sense, and I was townreading him.

I'm less certain of him now. Not so much because of the voting at the end of the day, but because I went back through his filter when Vivax was riding him. He's very...noncommittal through most of it? Yes I know this is something to do with tone. But his reads and statements came off very cautious to me, like he's reluctant to make scum reads or something. Cautious about bunnies, reading KSC as town because his move was "too bold" for mafia, lynching bunnies cause no reason not to, noncommittal about HF and Vivax still being alive after night 1 (like he's hinting that they might be scum but not willing to pursue it), focusing on Tubes "scumslip", FF then becomes "too scum to be scum"...but then goes back to scumreading him for something called "Occam's razor"?

I'm assuming that means if it smells like a rat it's a rat in layman's terms, but I haven't looked it up.

Don't see any point where he's reading someone as strongly scummy, just this side of null. And he does seem to dismiss KSC as a potential lynch entirely, too, but that could just be a town being wrong. I also don't see (though I might have missed it) where his ritoky read changed from town to a possible lynch.

Xatalos said he had reads but wouldn't give them Night 2. He may have had his reasons, but I'd like to see them now.

I'm not scum-reading him, per se, but there are doubts in my head now. I think I just didn't notice him as much because he's not as vocal/confrontational as a lot of the other players, and I don't know that caution in and of itself is a exclusive to scum, but given how often he's commented that scum wouldn't do anything to draw attention to themselves, and then seeing how cautiously he's been playing...it does bring up doubts.

On December 15 2014 22:34 Holyflare wrote:



Do you think i could lynch you with 0 posts left im the day?
Do you think i could lynch ritoky with 0 posts left in the day?
Did i think fecal had a great chance of being mafia?

Only 1 of those questions has a yes answer. I was also going to check my present at night to see if ritoky actually opened it and whether he was just lying so that's why i didn't push him about his present but you fucked with everything gb.

This game is perfectly different because I'm limited by posts and not only am i on holiday and being forced to fucking post every 5 minutes just to defend myself from your bull shit but it's hard to really follow on when I'm trying to enjoy time with my gf on a romantic trip, I've done what I can and I've pushed DECENT things. Ritoky has a great fucking chance at beinf mafia now that he claimed rb while obi most likely did too but you ignore it. You push all this useless shit. You have no idea what makes me town and what makes me mafia just like last game where you thought i was 100% mafia so different insta lynch and I wasn't. You are literally just dwindling away my post count for your own gain. You haven't done anything you said in regards to my defence. You rescinded your points about me and froggy. You made up bs about me pushing things i would do normally etc. I researched the peoples votes and made extra reads on them when you asked me to and then somehow evolving a read on those people makes me scum but so does my stale vote on bunnies and so does my present sending (which apparently you use a heuristic to town read yourself. Yeh fuck that) nothing you say makes any sense.

I suggest you drop everything. You leave me the fuck alone. You play the rest of the game in a little corner and either do absolutely nothing and admit you are mafia or post reads about actual people that could be mafia. I'm so tired of your useless shit. I'm not responding to you anymore.

On December 16 2014 02:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Froggynoddy to lynch

On December 16 2014 09:53 rsoultin wrote:
1. I've addressed GBs case on HF in-thread.
2. Not sure how I've been less than committal on you and GB. The burden of proof is on you, because I think my "commitment" has been rather obvious.
3. I said right in my Xata read that I'm not necessarily reading him as scum, just that his play is very cautious and that raised doubts.
4. I have since apologized to Tube, and even explained what I thought and where I've gone wrong with my read on SL. Not to mention I said earlier that it was meta and he was the only one I was comfortable meta-reading.

So clearly you do need to go through my filter or read the thread yourself.