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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 15:54 GMT
#1144
I still really hate 'wishy washy' as an argument for scum though. It's not a good one.

Is it funny that I think GB's case makes you look even better?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 15:57 GMT
#1149
This game needs more people who are easy to read.
GB what was your response to people accusing you of playing incredibly differently again? That you like to change your meta or something?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 16:02 GMT
#1157
Also it would be nice to hear from some of the more suspicious people some stuff that's not about their 'main' focus or defense.

For that reason I kinda like GB's terrible case. The sole issue I have preventing from me thinking he is town is I have been known to write out large terrible cases to get people off my back, assuming I'm going to have to fight with people over them (and then they just ignore the case and never do). This is clearly not what is happening with GB here because no one is ignoring his terrible case. Point being, was this a scum attempt to deflect by going balls out and attacking marv?

I'm ignoring the apparent suicid-ey-ness of it because it's not a great point against decent players (and possibly because marv's ego doesn't need any more food lol). I thik it's interesting that he mentioned marv as an apparent scumread ages ago, left it alone for a while (where it had a chance to die when it became clear that wasn't going to go anywhere) and then he cam back to it in full force. I think he truly does believe the things he has posted (even though he self-professed to 'play like he's town' when scum).
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 16:05 GMT
#1163
On November 29 2014 01:02 marvellosity wrote:
Wave, I'm kinda upset you didn't take more umbrage at my filter argument. You given into the silliness?

As I said, the argument holds water. It's one of those things that shouldn't work in theory if people played 'optimally' or whatever, but fact remains, it works. I mean I personally have other reasons to call you town this game but that reason works well enough. The funny thing there is JAT has a point where the argument doesn't necessarily work for everyone (ie HF, and if I were anyone else I wouldn't let me get away with that either).

Where the fuck is Rayn? Is he scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 16:12 GMT
#1173
On November 29 2014 01:07 Superbia wrote:
I'll give some thoughts on both Elvis and Sent real quick, since I have played with both of them before:

Elvis - I've played with Elvis twice, and both times he was VT. Elvis was indeed a bit different at the start of the game than he was at the start of other games. I do not recall him ever joking around at the start of the game before. But to be quite frank, I don't particularly think this is very mafia-indicative:
1. Elvis is a new player, I'm expecting new players to switch up quite a bit, partially because they have to become comfortable with the game.
2. He subbed out and the fact that he subbed out so early also means that we only have a tiny bit of his gameplay to work with, and I'm not comfortable with lynching someone with only small pieces of information to work with. I don't really have a read on Damd yet, but I haven't taken the time to dive his filter either (and I probably won't take/have the time today).

Overall, I agree that Elvis' play did not look like his previous play, but I don't think that's enough to lynch his replacement.


Sentinel - I've only placed with Sent once, and we were both scum (Campus mafia). His play during d1 was different than what I see here, which initially made me believe he was probably town. However, I recall him saying early on in scum QT that he was planning to call me out on my first post as scum before he realized he was scum as well. This makes me believe that Sent is usually a fairly aggressive player, who is not afraid to call out people as scum straight up. This game I feel he has been passive and has given weak reads at best. This leads me to believe that he may very well be switching up his play a bit to hide: his play isn't the same as his scum-game with me, but I find it hard to believe this is his town-game based on the feeling I had on him in the scum QT during the scum-game (again, Campus mafia).

Overall, I would say that I am leaning scum on Sentinel, and wouldn't mind seeing a case on him by someone other than me (mainly because I have little time this evening).


GlowingBear - The interactions I had with GB last night did not really convince me he was town. I would like everyone who has not done so to give an opinion on the case, and what they think of GB. As it stands, my vote will remain on GB.

Ugh soooo much meta.
This game in general is rampant with it.
Mediocre start, Superbia, in regards to people that aren't GB. Can we get something on one of the power players? (Also I seem to recall you asking me what my 'goal' was at some point, and then never bothered either following up or even saying anything at all about me.)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 16:12 GMT
#1175
On November 29 2014 01:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##vote superbia

See now I want to hear more about GB's Obi read because I keep giving Obi a free pass and he keeps doing stuff that annoys me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 16:14 GMT
#1177
On November 29 2014 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 01:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##vote superbia

See now I want to hear more about GB's Obi read because I keep giving Obi a free pass and he keeps doing stuff that annoys me.

I 100% understand the vote.

Depending on how he justifies it :p

Well that's part of what annoys me. It's like when you've got a confirmed town player who sits back and coasts on his status instead of actually helping his team win (even though Obi is only town in my head).
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 16:15 GMT
#1180
On November 29 2014 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
btw, just to note, Palmar dropped his shit little piece and has peaced out of the thread since.

DO NOT FORGET

On November 28 2014 11:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah, and I forgot about palmar. I could totally see last second shenannies magically flying over to him at the end of the day and I'm not sure if I like that idea or not.



The shittiest part is he could totally be town too, and if(when?) this happens we likely learn nothing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 16:18 GMT
#1182
On November 29 2014 01:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 01:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
btw, just to note, Palmar dropped his shit little piece and has peaced out of the thread since.

DO NOT FORGET

On November 28 2014 11:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah, and I forgot about palmar. I could totally see last second shenannies magically flying over to him at the end of the day and I'm not sure if I like that idea or not.



The shittiest part is he could totally be town too, and if(when?) this happens we likely learn nothing.

Admittedly it's pretty coinflippy.

On the other hand I always enjoy lynching Palmar.

I know you do, which is all the more reason why I'm pretty sure that's where we're headed. Sigh.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 16:47 GMT
#1205
On November 29 2014 01:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 01:43 Holyflare wrote:
On November 29 2014 01:36 justanothertownie wrote:
6. Sn0_Man
8. Elvis! replaced by Damdred Day 1
9. GlowingBear
10. [UoN]Sentinel
12. Palmar

Currently I think we should lynch into this list. I will try to narrow it down in the next hours and will also take suggestions of who to take out or put back in.


On November 28 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 28 2014 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno, really dislike GB this game because all he did was ask me useless questions and say he's getting the game in shape while saying it was already in shape with discussion and then the thing with you/superbia... just meh

Then he picked me out saying i look weird for not pushing anything good even though he's voting on the target i said i agreed with you about -.- -.- -.- -.-

sn0 - scummy originally and still scummy done absolutely nothing
sentinel - same as above
wave - -.- MEH
jat.... i dunno i'll probably end up wrong but he hasn't done much to convince me otherwise just chiming in with nothing useful really

palmar?


this is my shit list

Wow. So you have your GB read and nothing else and you complain about me having nothing useful. Your shitlist consists of me who is town and literally the 3 guys refusing to participate.


The circle of life

You only got there first because you have perfect information and are bussing as usual. :/

Well that would be a ballsy statement
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 17:37 GMT
#1260
I'll vote before I leave in ~4-5h. I'm almost certain it ends up where I said anyway, and I don't feel confident enough about anyone else to try and steer it away. And yeah, forget the votecount for now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 17:41 GMT
#1265
On November 29 2014 02:40 Palmar wrote:
Whoever started a mafia game on thanksgiving should be shot.

I'm out for tonight, I have a work-christmas-dinner-getdrunk-thing.

Just in case I actually get lynched. I haven't read much of the game so not too many reads I can give you. I actually feel fairly okay with thinking Superbia is town based on what I posted already. Don't disregard that evidence just because you think it's sorta dumb or weak.

Idk about marv, I kinda actually think I understand why he thinks I'm mafia, which makes him probably town. I've spent very little time on the game and he probably wants me to do other stuff, like read his posts. Then again, I'm sort of an easy target at the moment.

If marv is town, rayn is probably town too, in fact, it's extremely likely that most of marv's reads are correct, no matter his own alignment, because he's usually not blatantly wrong when he's mafia, just wrong enough not to lynch his entire team.

See you guys.

Pls no lynch.


I want this to be enough to not lynch him.
I really do.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 17:44 GMT
#1267
When are you ever uncomfortable with that?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 17:51 GMT
#1273
On November 29 2014 02:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 02:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
When are you ever uncomfortable with that?

Palmar never does that. I'm much more comfortable complimenting myself.

Dunno if it means anything though. Like you've seen how Palmar enjoys to dig at me "not that offsite game you ragequit because you're not man enough trolol" -----> "marv's reads are extremely likely to be right"

Oh you meant specifically. Thought you were you were joking around ego-wise.

Um...I mean....I guess?

We just have a massive coin-flip of a waste of a slot here and I truly don't like not really attempting to find real scum D1. I mean yes Palmar could very well be scum but then it's not exactly like we 'caught' him, is it? And yet leaving him alive doesn't serve us any purpose....subvaouybvalwbgvaligbadlgb
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 17:55 GMT
#1279
On November 29 2014 02:52 marvellosity wrote:
I think we give Palmar another day literally purely because there's zero information gained if he flips town

with that in mind

##unvote

I can agree with this, it just sucks majorly if we miss today and are left with him being useless again tomorrow.
Hey, you know who hasn't done shit in a while and I'd really love to lynch?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 17:56 GMT
#1280
On November 29 2014 02:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:47 marvellosity wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
When are you ever uncomfortable with that?

Palmar never does that. I'm much more comfortable complimenting myself.

Dunno if it means anything though. Like you've seen how Palmar enjoys to dig at me "not that offsite game you ragequit because you're not man enough trolol" -----> "marv's reads are extremely likely to be right"

Oh you meant specifically. Thought you were you were joking around ego-wise.

Um...I mean....I guess?

We just have a massive coin-flip of a waste of a slot here and I truly don't like not really attempting to find real scum D1. I mean yes Palmar could very well be scum but then it's not exactly like we 'caught' him, is it? And yet leaving him alive doesn't serve us any purpose....subvaouybvalwbgvaligbadlgb

Now you are concerned witch catching scum instead of just lynching them suddenly?

What?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 18:04 GMT
#1289
On November 29 2014 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:47 marvellosity wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
When are you ever uncomfortable with that?

Palmar never does that. I'm much more comfortable complimenting myself.

Dunno if it means anything though. Like you've seen how Palmar enjoys to dig at me "not that offsite game you ragequit because you're not man enough trolol" -----> "marv's reads are extremely likely to be right"

Oh you meant specifically. Thought you were you were joking around ego-wise.

Um...I mean....I guess?

We just have a massive coin-flip of a waste of a slot here and I truly don't like not really attempting to find real scum D1. I mean yes Palmar could very well be scum but then it's not exactly like we 'caught' him, is it? And yet leaving him alive doesn't serve us any purpose....subvaouybvalwbgvaligbadlgb

Now you are concerned witch catching scum instead of just lynching them suddenly?

What?

Earlier you wanted to lynch HF despite not being able to catch him.

I don't see what one has anything to do with the other. Palmar is catchable, if he plays the game.

On November 29 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, wave?

That's pretty tempting actually. I don't think I've ever seen Rayn play so little though. It's hard for me to believe that's alignment indicative so I wonder if we'd be lynching him for the wrong reasons.
Let me read him because I haven't.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 18:07 GMT
#1293
On November 28 2014 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a townread on wave which probably means he is scum.

If Palmar hasn't done anything when i get home from work i'll lynch him.

Rayn's play is definitely weird this game. For one, he never gives me townreads as town.
He also only shows ghosts of his usual tenacity when there's something going on that he doesn't quite grasp and wants to force it out of the person he's questioning at all costs.

Could lynch actually.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 18:08 GMT
#1295
On November 29 2014 03:06 marvellosity wrote:
oh, i was just guessing Wave. Seems i guessed wrong

Oh you meant in response to my question. I mean...I would have thought the answer was obvious which is why I didn't post an answer alongside it. (HF)

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 18:15 GMT
#1298
On November 29 2014 03:14 geript wrote:
I don't feel wholly comfortable lynching Rayn. He seems ok. I haven't gotten to interact with him but he passes the eye test for me. His set of questions to me is about what I expect from his town play.

Really?
Does it look like he cares to you?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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