Uhhh I answered that yesterday as I was working and just got done eating lunch. Why point this out with that conclusion when I have been here today doing things and answered this yesterday

Have you done stuff since yesterday?

geript

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December 01 2014 17:05 GMT

#2513

On December 02 2014 02:03 Damdred wrote:
Have you read the thread?

I'm catching up right now

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 17:27 GMT

#2527

On December 02 2014 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
i've been playing this game all wrong then

Don't worry HF, posting in thread is directly correlated to dick size. Hopefully you'll be able to console yourself.

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 17:49 GMT

#2535

HF, IDK about Obi's meta. The differences that I'm seeing from Obi's meta are:
As town he tends to give out more ideas
As town, he tends to play to have fun and enjoy himself which tends to level out later in the game; + townpoints
As town his vote tends to bounce around a bunch; + scumpoints
His post length is slightly more one-linery as town but that seems to change game to game

I don't think there's a good meta reason to be voting him over Damdred.

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 17:57 GMT

#2538

Palmer... You are the fucking laziest host ever. Update your OPs!!!!!

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 18:01 GMT

#2543

No, looking into Sn0's meta and Witchcraft IIRC has no OP links to day/night/filter and I couldn't even use Palmer's filter to directly find endgame.

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 18:15 GMT

#2546

Sn0 looks absolutely nothing like his town games.
Town
Neat and TIdy
Hogwarts
I'm a Cop
Witchcraft
Mafia
SMB

Here's the glaring differences I've seen from his town play:
As town he's not a complete asshat and seems to actually enjoy himself
As town he's actually makes comments and tries to be helpful regardless of blue/green
As town he wants to win but fears looking dumb more than losing

As mafia, he's a whiny asshole who trieds to add as little to the thread as humanly possible.

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 18:16 GMT

#2547

So Marv, can I convince with those Naughty Nurse pictures I promised?

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 18:25 GMT

#2552

On December 02 2014 03:19 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

that one mafia game you linked looks nothing like this game at all he's far more agreeable/passive

Did you read the parts where he's being attacked?

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 18:33 GMT

#2554

On December 02 2014 03:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Also the interaction between sn0 and rayn that damdred pointed out IS a little weird. Hm.

On the plus side, Damdred does bus as mafia

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 19:11 GMT

#2559

HF you around still?

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 19:30 GMT

#2563

On December 01 2014 12:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
while i hardly find it unlikely that obi's scum, i think lynching damdred makes more sense today
##Vote: Damdred

Like do I even need to comment on how scummy this is?

If anyone wants to ignore the fact that this game looks absolutely nothing like any of Sn0's town games; and they want to agree with HF that this looks nothing like his mafia game + Show Spoiler +

I disagree, while I don't think the mafia game completely fits, when you look at his general outlook that game (it's far more of a jerk) and how he responds when people call him out (gets super whiny); it's quite analogous to this game

. Like take a look and see what Sn0 has done so far. He's voted 3 times this entire game for two different people. As a general rule, town tends to throw their votes around more haphazardly. He's stated that he doesn't have any good insights especially early on (which btw is not in line with his town meta), yet his promise of being more useful later on has yet to be realized. He has showed repeatedly that he has not intention in any way of helping town whatsoever. This is a guy who IN HIS OWN WORDS enjoys town play far more than scum play; is he currently enjoying playing? Has he enjoyed playing this game whatsoever? He's been a jerk all game and he's done nothing all game. At least Palmer is funny. Yes, Damdred can be mafia here. Yes, they can be bussing each other. But pretend for a second that Damdred is town. Is scum!Sn0 going to do anything different here? He's got a freebie mislynch. He has no interest in rocking any opinions or in moving the thread forward. He is intentionally being lazy. Like what gives?

On December 02 2014 01:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't get why i'm being accused for dumb shit instead of being max lazy utterly useless

This quote is practically straight out of his SMB game IIRC.

geript

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December 01 2014 19:31 GMT

#2564

On December 02 2014 04:26 Holyflare wrote:
i wanna kill dis obi guy look at his vote and general lack of giving a shit + wants to kill a town read + afking all game + nub

I don't get why you don't want to kill Sn0 at all honestly.

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 19:33 GMT

#2565

On December 02 2014 04:26 Holyflare wrote:
i wanna kill dis obi guy look at his vote and general lack of giving a shit + wants to kill a town read + afking all game + nub

Yes, I'll be clear. That shit is sketch. But why are you not considering his meta whatsoever? No offense Obi, but HF he's not a great player. He'll do scummy shit. I can go back and look to see how many times he's been mislynched if that helps. I just seem him at best as the #3 best lynch for today at best.

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 19:34 GMT

#2566

brb, gotta pee then get wotd

geript

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December 01 2014 19:40 GMT

#2577

On December 02 2014 04:36 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

I've literally told you your meta read on obi was shit and he's never made posts like that as town.

Yes, please convince me how my meta read is shit when i read 60% of 4 filters. I ignored his 22p filter in FFL.

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 20:10 GMT

#2602

On December 02 2014 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think i've ever seen him so wishy washy on reading a person to call him both town and a lynch he wants to go for

You don't look for one specific thing when you meta. You look at the trend. What are the persons tendencies. And no, I'm not going to go back and look at that meta again. Proving things works both ways HF; you've said X, Y and Z about Obi. I just finished reading a bunch of pages about him. We disagree about a read; it won't be the first time and it won't be the last. Is my read strong enough that I'd stake my mafia career on it and never play again if I'm wrong? No (besides that would be against the rules). From what I recall, he's been wishy-washy before; I think I saw points of it in both his town and mafia play. I also know that generally what happens is that people forget about or drop good townreads they had early on. Marv had a decent townread on Obi early, Palmer did too. I don't remember where you were at on him. I just don't see a reason to lynch a guy because he said one super scummy scummy thing especially when half the fucking game has said something equally if not more scummy than him.

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 20:13 GMT

#2604

You know what. Fuck it.
##unvote
##vote Sn0

geript

10024 Posts

December 01 2014 20:45 GMT

#2620

On December 02 2014 05:27 Holyflare wrote:

this whole paragraph is useless and poses nothing to the game when I just took the meta that you made for obi by reading his past games and applied it to this game you shouldn't be reading him anything other than mafia

he has literally only been town read for the first like 2 hours of the game AND THEN AFK'D THE ENTIRE GAME, you're saying "oh these people town read him!" who gives a crap? how is that relevant? it's not ONE scummy thing at all, it's a multitude of scummy things culminating in one scummy pile

you can't just say that you disagree without stating WHAT you disagree on

On December 02 2014 04:44 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

1) he has given out absolutely no ideas this game

2) he doesn't look like he's enjoying himself at all, in fact quite the opposite, he's aggravated at legitimate points and then goes back to afk when under pressure to return and do nothing when the lynch is on damdred EVEN THOUGH HE SAID DAMDRED LOOKS MORE TOWNY NOW AND HE'D DEFEND HIM IF HE DID

3) hasn't happened this game

4) it's almost exclusively 1 liners as town, never have I really seen him go wall of text wishy washy reads like this game

so it's not exactly a shit meta read, it's just you've applied it really badly to this game

1. I don't wholly agree. However, he hasn't really been around that much. But he has made some early points which I saw was a tendency during his town play. You can count this as scum points for inactivity or whatever because it's less than usual perhaps, but I'm just calling it null because it's not quite his town play but it's not quite his mafia play either.
2. I disagree. Look at the various points he's had in this game. He literally starts out by having fun. "hello dickbutts, help help i'm being oppressed, Wooosh, 10/10 stay beautiful, etc." He enjoyed his early game. Then as the game went on, the playfulness and joke-to-reasonable/interesting-point ratio went up. That's indicative of his town game.
3. I agree. Thus why it was scum points.
4. No it's not exclusively 1 liners as town. There was at least 1 game where half or more of his posts were 3-5 lines minimum not counting quotes.

geript

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December 01 2014 20:50 GMT

#2623

On December 02 2014 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
so why is obi not here defending damdred who he town reads and even said he would defend if that was the case?

Fuck if I know. Why do you think this game is exactly the same as his previous mafia game? Point it out.